Padfoot Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Hey fellow TRF'ers, I reciently (well, opened the box yesterday) got a new laptop, and it has come with vista. I don't understand it yet, but anyway, my question was that I have heard that Vista wouldn't run pirated software.. and My copy of Photoshop is pirated. Have any of you had issues or anything, before I install it and break my computer? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyrob Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 QUOTE (padfoot @ Nov 27 2007, 01:02 PM) Hey fellow TRF'ers, I reciently (well, opened the box yesterday) got a new laptop, and it has come with vista. I don't understand it yet, but anyway, my question was that I have heard that Vista wouldn't run pirated software.. and My copy of Photoshop is pirated. Have any of you had issues or anything, before I install it and break my computer? Thanks! Not before you get 40 lashes for using pirated software PS My cousin lives in Kitchener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCFIELDS Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 QUOTE (padfoot @ Nov 27 2007, 07:02 AM) Hey fellow TRF'ers, I reciently (well, opened the box yesterday) got a new laptop, and it has come with vista. I don't understand it yet, but anyway, my question was that I have heard that Vista wouldn't run pirated software.. and My copy of Photoshop is pirated. Have any of you had issues or anything, before I install it and break my computer? Thanks! Not that I would know or anything......but you won't have a prob........unless PS requires activation (which has nothing to do with Vista)........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slime Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Solution: buy the real thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppetKing2112 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 This is just another reason why I'd never get a Windows computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromancer Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 QUOTE (Slime @ Nov 28 2007, 07:30 AM) Solution: buy the real thing yeah... cuz EVERYONE has 700 bucks to drop on a software item that should only cost 100 bux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneStar Boogie Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 QUOTE (Necromancer @ Dec 29 2007, 10:14 AM) QUOTE (Slime @ Nov 28 2007, 07:30 AM) Solution: buy the real thing yeah... cuz EVERYONE has 700 bucks to drop on a software item that should only cost 100 bux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slime Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Why is breaking the law the best alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riv Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Quit being a pussy. That's to all of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromancer Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 QUOTE (Slime @ Dec 30 2007, 02:36 AM) Why is breaking the law the best alternative? Cuz Adobe and Microsoft are bazillion dollar corporations. They don't need to charge that kind of price for something that doesn't need to cost so much. So ripping them off is HARDLY a sin or a crime. I wouldn't pay that much if i had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimagraven Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Did you know the most pirated piece of software is Adobe Photoshop? Or that's what I heard. Probably. Anyway, why would anyone want Vista? ... Even ME is better than Vista And this right here now is not the time to mention that it's on my laptop..... Vista that is. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slime Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 QUOTE (Necromancer @ Dec 31 2007, 07:00 AM) QUOTE (Slime @ Dec 30 2007, 02:36 AM) Why is breaking the law the best alternative? Cuz Adobe and Microsoft are bazillion dollar corporations. They don't need to charge that kind of price for something that doesn't need to cost so much. So ripping them off is HARDLY a sin or a crime. I wouldn't pay that much if i had it. If you... a ) believe in sin B ) believe that stealing is a sin Then logically stealing from ANYBODY is a sin, regardless of their financial status. Is stealing from the rich somehow less of a sin/crime than stealing from the poor? Where do you draw the line? How much money does someone have to have before stealing from them is acceptable? How many people should be allowed to steal from the rich man before it is unacceptable? I also believe that charging hundreds of dollars for software is ridiculous, but I admit that I don't know how much time and money is spent by Adobe or Microsoft into creating a certain product. Making a piece of high quality software is NOT easy, nor is it cheap. If somebody on this board does work with a software company, they can tell us just how many hours of coding go into every piece of software. The point is us outsiders just DON'T KNOW, so we can't make as educated a guess as to whether Photoshop should cost eight million dollars per minute of use OR whether it should be handed out with Big Macs. But there are options. You could always find a less expensive piece of software, which is one of the beauties of capitalism (competition drives prices down and quality). The other option, of course, is to NOT have Photoshop. Surprisingly enough, most of the world can live and function without it. It is true that if you are a photographer or video editor, you might have more of a need for some piece of software that can do what Photoshop does, but why do you have the right to have it for free? Can I go to a store and say "Well I think you are charging too much for that loaf of bread, so I guess that means I better steal it from you"? Is stealing a loaf of bread from Walmart somehow ok, but stealing from the convenience store not? By your logic, since Walmart is also worth billions of dollars and I'm not, I should be able to go into the store and steal whatever I like. Hey, they are worth lots of money, so they can handle it. As long as I'm teaching economics, like above, I'll lay some more stuff down. One reason that software and other things have become so expensive is because people STEAL them. Software companies know that if they make a product, a certain amount of people will not pay for it. They have to charge a certain amount to make up that difference. This isn't insider knowledge, like I mentioned above, it is basic economics. So if you truly NEED to have Photoshop, or something like it, pay for it. Make the monetary sacrifice OR go without it. Stealing is still against the law, last time I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney's Alter Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 QUOTE (nimagraven @ Dec 30 2007, 05:27 PM) Did you know the most pirated piece of software is Adobe Photoshop? Or that's what I heard. Probably. Anyway, why would anyone want Vista? ... Even ME is better than Vista And this right here now is not the time to mention that it's on my laptop..... Vista that is. lol. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/barney_rebel/Microsoft_Windows_WHY_ME__by_rebelx.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCFIELDS Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 QUOTE (Slime @ Dec 31 2007, 01:12 AM) QUOTE (Necromancer @ Dec 31 2007, 07:00 AM) QUOTE (Slime @ Dec 30 2007, 02:36 AM) Why is breaking the law the best alternative? Cuz Adobe and Microsoft are bazillion dollar corporations. They don't need to charge that kind of price for something that doesn't need to cost so much. So ripping them off is HARDLY a sin or a crime. I wouldn't pay that much if i had it. If you... a ) believe in sin B ) believe that stealing is a sin Then logically stealing from ANYBODY is a sin, regardless of their financial status. Is stealing from the rich somehow less of a sin/crime than stealing from the poor? Where do you draw the line? How much money does someone have to have before stealing from them is acceptable? How many people should be allowed to steal from the rich man before it is unacceptable? I also believe that charging hundreds of dollars for software is ridiculous, but I admit that I don't know how much time and money is spent by Adobe or Microsoft into creating a certain product. Making a piece of high quality software is NOT easy, nor is it cheap. If somebody on this board does work with a software company, they can tell us just how many hours of coding go into every piece of software. The point is us outsiders just DON'T KNOW, so we can't make as educated a guess as to whether Photoshop should cost eight million dollars per minute of use OR whether it should be handed out with Big Macs. But there are options. You could always find a less expensive piece of software, which is one of the beauties of capitalism (competition drives prices down and quality). The other option, of course, is to NOT have Photoshop. Surprisingly enough, most of the world can live and function without it. It is true that if you are a photographer or video editor, you might have more of a need for some piece of software that can do what Photoshop does, but why do you have the right to have it for free? Can I go to a store and say "Well I think you are charging too much for that loaf of bread, so I guess that means I better steal it from you"? Is stealing a loaf of bread from Walmart somehow ok, but stealing from the convenience store not? By your logic, since Walmart is also worth billions of dollars and I'm not, I should be able to go into the store and steal whatever I like. Hey, they are worth lots of money, so they can handle it. As long as I'm teaching economics, like above, I'll lay some more stuff down. One reason that software and other things have become so expensive is because people STEAL them. Software companies know that if they make a product, a certain amount of people will not pay for it. They have to charge a certain amount to make up that difference. This isn't insider knowledge, like I mentioned above, it is basic economics. So if you truly NEED to have Photoshop, or something like it, pay for it. Make the monetary sacrifice OR go without it. Stealing is still against the law, last time I checked. http://freshbread.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/04/captainobvious.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromancer Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 QUOTE (Slime @ Dec 31 2007, 02:12 AM) QUOTE (Necromancer @ Dec 31 2007, 07:00 AM) QUOTE (Slime @ Dec 30 2007, 02:36 AM) Why is breaking the law the best alternative? Cuz Adobe and Microsoft are bazillion dollar corporations. They don't need to charge that kind of price for something that doesn't need to cost so much. So ripping them off is HARDLY a sin or a crime. I wouldn't pay that much if i had it. If you... a ) believe in sin B ) believe that stealing is a sin Then logically stealing from ANYBODY is a sin, regardless of their financial status. Is stealing from the rich somehow less of a sin/crime than stealing from the poor? Where do you draw the line? How much money does someone have to have before stealing from them is acceptable? How many people should be allowed to steal from the rich man before it is unacceptable? I also believe that charging hundreds of dollars for software is ridiculous, but I admit that I don't know how much time and money is spent by Adobe or Microsoft into creating a certain product. Making a piece of high quality software is NOT easy, nor is it cheap. If somebody on this board does work with a software company, they can tell us just how many hours of coding go into every piece of software. The point is us outsiders just DON'T KNOW, so we can't make as educated a guess as to whether Photoshop should cost eight million dollars per minute of use OR whether it should be handed out with Big Macs. But there are options. You could always find a less expensive piece of software, which is one of the beauties of capitalism (competition drives prices down and quality). The other option, of course, is to NOT have Photoshop. Surprisingly enough, most of the world can live and function without it. It is true that if you are a photographer or video editor, you might have more of a need for some piece of software that can do what Photoshop does, but why do you have the right to have it for free? Can I go to a store and say "Well I think you are charging too much for that loaf of bread, so I guess that means I better steal it from you"? Is stealing a loaf of bread from Walmart somehow ok, but stealing from the convenience store not? By your logic, since Walmart is also worth billions of dollars and I'm not, I should be able to go into the store and steal whatever I like. Hey, they are worth lots of money, so they can handle it. As long as I'm teaching economics, like above, I'll lay some more stuff down. One reason that software and other things have become so expensive is because people STEAL them. Software companies know that if they make a product, a certain amount of people will not pay for it. They have to charge a certain amount to make up that difference. This isn't insider knowledge, like I mentioned above, it is basic economics. So if you truly NEED to have Photoshop, or something like it, pay for it. Make the monetary sacrifice OR go without it. Stealing is still against the law, last time I checked. Um... yeah. Thanks for the morality lecture, but I'll stick with my pirated version, thanks. Oh and GOD just pm'ed me and wanted to know if I'd burn HIM a copy. HE even thinks Adobe are crooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slime Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 QUOTE (WCFIELDS @ Jan 1 2008, 04:42 AM) QUOTE (Slime @ Dec 31 2007, 01:12 AM) QUOTE (Necromancer @ Dec 31 2007, 07:00 AM) QUOTE (Slime @ Dec 30 2007, 02:36 AM) Why is breaking the law the best alternative? Cuz Adobe and Microsoft are bazillion dollar corporations. They don't need to charge that kind of price for something that doesn't need to cost so much. So ripping them off is HARDLY a sin or a crime. I wouldn't pay that much if i had it. If you... a ) believe in sin B ) believe that stealing is a sin Then logically stealing from ANYBODY is a sin, regardless of their financial status. Is stealing from the rich somehow less of a sin/crime than stealing from the poor? Where do you draw the line? How much money does someone have to have before stealing from them is acceptable? How many people should be allowed to steal from the rich man before it is unacceptable? I also believe that charging hundreds of dollars for software is ridiculous, but I admit that I don't know how much time and money is spent by Adobe or Microsoft into creating a certain product. Making a piece of high quality software is NOT easy, nor is it cheap. If somebody on this board does work with a software company, they can tell us just how many hours of coding go into every piece of software. The point is us outsiders just DON'T KNOW, so we can't make as educated a guess as to whether Photoshop should cost eight million dollars per minute of use OR whether it should be handed out with Big Macs. But there are options. You could always find a less expensive piece of software, which is one of the beauties of capitalism (competition drives prices down and quality). The other option, of course, is to NOT have Photoshop. Surprisingly enough, most of the world can live and function without it. It is true that if you are a photographer or video editor, you might have more of a need for some piece of software that can do what Photoshop does, but why do you have the right to have it for free? Can I go to a store and say "Well I think you are charging too much for that loaf of bread, so I guess that means I better steal it from you"? Is stealing a loaf of bread from Walmart somehow ok, but stealing from the convenience store not? By your logic, since Walmart is also worth billions of dollars and I'm not, I should be able to go into the store and steal whatever I like. Hey, they are worth lots of money, so they can handle it. As long as I'm teaching economics, like above, I'll lay some more stuff down. One reason that software and other things have become so expensive is because people STEAL them. Software companies know that if they make a product, a certain amount of people will not pay for it. They have to charge a certain amount to make up that difference. This isn't insider knowledge, like I mentioned above, it is basic economics. So if you truly NEED to have Photoshop, or something like it, pay for it. Make the monetary sacrifice OR go without it. Stealing is still against the law, last time I checked. http://freshbread.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/04/captainobvious.jpg I'm always willing to drop the Rock of Obvious on the head of someone who needs it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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