JARG

thanks jarg. although i am not here to receive flowers, i appreciate the comment. feel free to tell me what should i do to "improve" my sound. (i know...it's a very personal thing...) You've already gotten closer than I think I could. I'm not a bassist, but I am a tone hound, and I think you're close enough that, given the right mix and tighter chops, no one but the purist of the purists would even be able to tell it wasn't Ged.

Really great tone!

I have never heard of it untill today, so I have no idea to be honest. But have they ever said that they have done it? Not to my knowledge, but don't you think they would have been quick to deny it if it was a blatant lie? Thats true, but I just cant imagine Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson and Neil Peart being jerks. :o They all seem to be such nice guys! You need to work on that imagination of yours, then. ;)

What does that buzz sound like, I don't think I've ever heard it. However I usually listen to Rush while driving, which hides a lot due to road noise etc. The kick drum is EQ'd too brightly, and thus each hit produces a very high frequency "click". It's hard to ignore it when you listen with headphones.

PeW has one excellent song...two very good ones...and three so-so ones. That said, it is, in my ears, the least dated-sounding record in their collection.

I kept the tour book from the Permanent Waves tour all these years and just went and found it in the attic today. I didn't keep any other ones . All this Permanent Waves talk got me off my @ss. It must be the one from the fall of 80' because it says 1980 on it. I would assume the pre tour one I went to in the summer of 79' would have 1979 on it I would think.... How long did the Hemispheres tour run? I caught in early '79...any chance that's the tour you saw that summer?

I think of PeW as an album from Rush's glory years. I also think of it as an 80s album. :)

Has it been decided yet?

I'm grateful for that. Rush really became the band I love when he stopped screeching... Okay that seals it. Real fans like the high pitched screaming Geddy. I don't dislike it...I just prefer when he starting "modulating" his singing... I think his vocals on Anthem and parts of 2112 are awesome. But it doesn't work as well live for me. He always sounded more "chipmunky" live than in the studio. Cool on the studio recordings, not so much live... I just do not like how he sounds here. I prefer the studio vocals by far. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtK-7w0PFG0 Studio vox are the gold standard, for sure, but I love how he's sounding here. Yeah, he's got some pitch issues on the first couple of verses and all the choruses, but his enunciation is excellent throughout and by the third verse his voice had warmed up considerably and he was able to stay on pitch much better. That said, I think his vox are too far forward in the mix and bone dry (except for the echo effect here and there). A touch of reverb and pulling his vox down into the mix a bit would likely have done wonders.

Leave your ass alone! You can go to this thread and make your own determination: http://www.therushforum.com/index.php?/topic/88809-on-the-horizon/

He's also a very talented musician. I can attest to that fact. Thanks Lorraine. Just for that you get a free copy of album #2 when it comes out in a month or so. ;)

I'm a decent guitarist -- the number of players who can play circles around me is much larger than the number of players I can play circles around. Geddy used to be a better live singer than he is now. He's gotten so bad I think it's time for him to quit doing live shows. Is there a fine line between adulation and disrespect, or is there a gulf? I tend to think there's a gulf and that I'm probably somewhere in the middle of it with my opinion, but I suppose for others here, it's a fine line. I don't walk a fine line very well, I guess.

No need to panic. The odds of Geddy reading this thread and saying, "Well that seals the deal. I'm done with touring" is vanishingly close to zero. Their live dvd's are another story. We're specifically talking about live performance not the live releases. Does his vocal idiosyncrasies actually bother anyone while they're at the show? Yeah, they bother me. Like I said, I go to shows out of some weird sense of loyalty (or maybe just some of Pavlovian thing), but Geddy's voice is cringe-worthy even then. The same is getting true for Alex's lead work. Peart can still drum well and Geddy's bass playing is still amazing, but oy, his vocals are hard to endure. I saw Rush during the VT tour and R30 but missed the S&A tour. When I went to the Time Machine Tour I noticed something sounded different...I attributed it his vocals being too loud in the mix and where I was sitting (it was in the upper decks). I could not understand anything he was singing which concerned me because I brought a friend with me who had never seen Rush live before. Something was off. I enjoyed the show immensely (minus the somehwhat boring first set)...I get what you're saying to a degree. But do i think they should retire? Hell no. I don't recall any of his vocals bothering me during the CA show in Las Vegas. But again the show was so loud that it was really hard to discern anything too well. The shows I've been to the sound is usually so loud that it's hard to decipher specific details, it just all meshes together. Don't get me started on their piss-poor mixes these days!

No need to panic. The odds of Geddy reading this thread and saying, "Well that seals the deal. I'm done with touring" is vanishingly close to zero. Their live dvd's are another story. We're specifically talking about live performance not the live releases. Does his vocal idiosyncrasies actually bother anyone while they're at the show? Yeah, they bother me. Like I said, I go to shows out of some weird sense of loyalty (or maybe just some of Pavlovian thing), but Geddy's voice is cringe-worthy even then. The same is getting true for Alex's lead work. Peart can still drum well and Geddy's bass playing is still amazing, but oy, his vocals are hard to endure.

No need to panic. The odds of Geddy reading this thread and saying, "Well that seals the deal. I'm done with touring" is vanishingly close to zero.

This might be the dumbest post I've seen since I joined... I've seen much dumber and most likely have posted some. There is alot of truth in that post. Just my opinion and you may have to be older to "really" understand it. I realize I am in the minority on this one and I am sure Fordgalaxy and JARG do too but just don't give a sh*t.... :codger: Well they can't be "raw young boys" forever. Which is why retirement exists. So what are you waiting for? My IRAs need to be fatter. I'd retire tomorrow if I could afford it.

This might be the dumbest post I've seen since I joined... I've seen much dumber and most likely have posted some. There is alot of truth in that post. Just my opinion and you may have to be older to "really" understand it. I realize I am in the minority on this one and I am sure Fordgalaxy and JARG do too but just don't give a sh*t.... :codger: Well they can't be "raw young boys" forever. Which is why retirement exists.

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Not when compared against this version (skip to 4:14): I would say he sounds good even compared to the studio version I wouldn't. I say he didn't sound "great" on that live version up there, during the "Geddy still has it" benchmark that everyone likes to trot out. His pitch was off and his enunciation was shit. That said, the verses are about where his range is these days and he sang those pretty good for the most part.

Not when compared against this version (skip to 4:14):

Agreed. His enunciation went first, followed by his pitch. Everything is all vowels now, and sometimes those vowels are way out of tune. He can't trill the way he used to either. What do they call that? Vibrato? Yeah, it's called vibrato.

What about according to LR?

Agreed. His enunciation went first, followed by his pitch. Everything is all vowels now, and sometimes those vowels are way out of tune.

I would hope so, too, but it's beginning to look like he doesn't.

Well, there's a third option that is very popular. You screw it to the wall over your kitchen table, and invite your friends to eat at "the Hard Rock Cafe." Or the 4th option called Hendrixing. Burn it with fire. ;) Talking of that, why on earth did he set it on fire? Because he was trying to compete with Pete Townshend of The Who. Did he do that too? I don't think Pete ever did, but there was an arms race of sensationalism between those two for a bit.