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It's a Rush forum that hates Rush. Which part of that do you not understand? This is the post of the year. Post of the decade, really. It should be posted on the board header, in bold caps. It should be told to every new member, so there's no misunderstanding about what to expect. I salute you, Tony.

here here, I agree. I think he sounded great for R40. Haters need to just shut up & leave. Hope the guys never see the sh** people post about them! I certainly don't want to cause or start any trouble here but if you have an opinion that is not completely positive or positive at all is that not ok? I love the band as much as anyone and have since 76' but I am gonna call it how I see it. No offense. Just wondering... :) Right on Narps. This forum is fast becoming a dangerous place for anyone who has a brain. Aw, are you frightened Tony? Poor chappie. Objective criticism and trollish posts- do they all look the same to you? If someone posts that Geddy Lee sounds like shit on R40 Live, does that sound like objective criticism? Lol, no buddy. That's some douche trying to get a rise out of this crowd. You're so sensitive about people getting pissed over trollish comments. This is The RUSH Forum, so, if you feel "danger" because there's too many RUSH fanatics on this RUSH forum and some of them get rude with trollish posts, welcome to reality. :hi: Wake up and smell the honeydew. Don't fret about how dangerous this forum is. It'll be okay dear. Admin will make sure of it.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/R40R/Mobile%20Uploads/cover-s_zpsmh0wjhan.jpg You have to try sometimes :)

Yes Eel, I agree. Right good post. Don't forget Anthem. He can still bring the banshee.

Sure some flaws can be charming, but in this case, Geddy's vocal struggles and Alex's 'new parts' make the official release a tough listen for me. The general energy level seems low compared to other shows on the tour. Stoked that they really killed it on other nights though! Bummed out? Tough listen? I'm bummed out you and others are such a tough audience. Not at all really, just a little shocked by such hard critics on this site. They didn't film and release their best performance on R40. Aw shit, I didn't notice!! I forgot to scour you tube for a better performance, goddam it. What's wrong with me?? Nothing. Same with the complainers with nothing good to say. Yup, nothing wrong with y'all either. Keep up the good bitching. Y'all help keep this site alive. I bummed-out that you think I have nothing good to say. The band played great on a number of nights on this tour. The officially released Toronto show just wasn't one of them. I'm glad you and others are enjoying it. I'm totally rocking-out to the LA Forum show, and I'm about to check out the other shows recommended on this thread. Sorry, I meant it as "nothing good to say about R40 Live". I guess I thought that was implied enough. :) Neil sounds great on R40 Live. I guess I thought that was implied enough. ;) Haha, no, not complaining about Neil doesn't imply you thought he sounded great. You literally said nothing good about R40 in your thread until now. Sorry I had to force that compliment out of you. Your thread is now stained. ;) Huh? Did you mean to say that I literally said nothing good about R40 "LIVE" in my thread until now? Damn, I noticed I had left out "Live" after posting. I was afraid might easily confuse you and it did, so again, my apologies

Sure some flaws can be charming, but in this case, Geddy's vocal struggles and Alex's 'new parts' make the official release a tough listen for me. The general energy level seems low compared to other shows on the tour. Stoked that they really killed it on other nights though! Bummed out? Tough listen? I'm bummed out you and others are such a tough audience. Not at all really, just a little shocked by such hard critics on this site. They didn't film and release their best performance on R40. Aw shit, I didn't notice!! I forgot to scour you tube for a better performance, goddam it. What's wrong with me?? Nothing. Same with the complainers with nothing good to say. Yup, nothing wrong with y'all either. Keep up the good bitching. Y'all help keep this site alive. I bummed-out that you think I have nothing good to say. The band played great on a number of nights on this tour. The officially released Toronto show just wasn't one of them. I'm glad you and others are enjoying it. I'm totally rocking-out to the LA Forum show, and I'm about to check out the other shows recommended on this thread. Sorry, I meant it as "nothing good to say about R40 Live". I guess I thought that was implied enough. :) Neil sounds great on R40 Live. I guess I thought that was implied enough. ;) Haha, no, not complaining about Neil doesn't imply you thought he sounded great. You literally said nothing good about R40 in your thread until now. Sorry I had to force that compliment out of you. Your thread is now stained. ;)

Sure some flaws can be charming, but in this case, Geddy's vocal struggles and Alex's 'new parts' make the official release a tough listen for me. The general energy level seems low compared to other shows on the tour. Stoked that they really killed it on other nights though! Bummed out? Tough listen? I'm bummed out you and others are such a tough audience. Not at all really, just a little shocked by such hard critics on this site. They didn't film and release their best performance on R40. Aw shit, I didn't notice!! I forgot to scour you tube for a better performance, goddam it. What's wrong with me?? Nothing. Same with the complainers with nothing good to say. Yup, nothing wrong with y'all either. Keep up the good bitching. Y'all help keep this site alive. I bummed-out that you think I have nothing good to say. The band played great on a number of nights on this tour. The officially released Toronto show just wasn't one of them. I'm glad you and others are enjoying it. I'm totally rocking-out to the LA Forum show, and I'm about to check out the other shows recommended on this thread. Sorry, I meant it as "nothing good to say about R40 Live". I guess I thought that was implied enough. :)

Sure some flaws can be charming, but in this case, Geddy's vocal struggles and Alex's 'new parts' make the official release a tough listen for me. The general energy level seems low compared to other shows on the tour. Stoked that they really killed it on other nights though! Bummed out? Tough listen? I'm bummed out you and others are such a tough audience. Not at all really, just a little shocked by such hard critics on this site. They didn't film and release their best performance on R40. Aw shit, I didn't notice!! I forgot to scour you tube for a better performance, goddam it. What's wrong with me?? Nothing. Same with the complainers with nothing good to say. Yup, nothing wrong with y'all either. Keep up the good bitching. Y'all help keep this site alive.

There is. Paul and Geddy are Gods!

He clearly is on top of his game. He is playing his instrument better than Alex and Neil at this stage. Clearly. I listened and watched the Blu-ray last night and then I put in R30 to compare and other than the vocals they are much tighter as a band now. You can tell they've improved as musicians over the past 10 years. Geddy has always been a monster of a bass player but he's gotten even better with age. I think when you know it's likely your last shot at something, you're gonna go at it harder Hard to tell if Geddy thinks this is the end, but he's always given us 110%. I don't think he ever half-assed his performances, but I just got a vibe that they had "something to prove" on the R40 tour, the type of spark that most comfortable, money-making arena bands seem to lose after a certain point. maybe it was the surrounding last tour buzz, but R40 felt more like an "event", whereas the other shows I went to felt more like, you know, just rock concerts. I agree. Plus they were playing a lot of classic songs which they haven't done in a long time. Yeah. It's important for them - and they felt this way, I'm sure - to revitalize all of the energy to perform those songs to match or even surpass the energy of from when those songs were first written. To throw off that "old geezer playing the nostalgic stuff" atmosphere of the performance. It's impossible to match it at this point performance or stamina wise for all three of them, but mad props for what they were able to pour into each show this tour. I think one of the main reasons they also sound tighter than R30 is they only had one tour under their belt after taking a long hiatus (98-01). The T4E tour IMO was probably the best I had ever heard them play as a band. They absolutely sizzled on that tour. Everything was clicking. But these last two tours (CA/R40) they had never sounded better as a whole sans the obvious vocal strains due to age. The energy of the last two tours was unmatched. I just loved them to death. It was like seeing them again in the 80's for me personally. Agree agree agree. T4E was probably my favorite tour, and not just because of 2112 in its entirety. Every tour after sort of became a new fav, but I could never shake T4E being so awesome. R40 surpassed it, no question. There's so much I love. Love how all three evolve their parts on songs.. some ever so slightly, some slightly obvious, all wonderful. I can really hear the subtle improvements in Neil's style and delivery on R40, while still remaining true to the songs. Vocally, Geddy was not perfect of course but brought it so well that quibbling over vocals seems like such nitpicking to me. People ripping him for not sounding like it's 1985 seems like mean-spirited heresy! He was better than just good, and he was an absolute beast on the basses. Alex was Alex- on fire. Neil seemed practically flawless, and totally stunning. I do love me this release. The sound is f***ing off the charts for RUSH. I've never gotten so emotional about a RUSH dvd! Simply put, best ever. I believe this was not RUSH's last stand.. that there's more to their story, but, it was almost like there was a King Theoden speech before the tour. "If this is to be our end, then I would have them make such an end, as to be worthy of remembrance!" Ahh, so worthy. I'm not worthy! :rush:

Watched it twice. First time, my head exploded numerous times. I got choked up on several occasions. By the time Working Man was wrapping up, a tear hit my leg. Second time, I got choked up a few times and a tear formed. Twice. Best RUSH concert video ever.

If they don't play their doublenecks, you can't have any Xanadu. How can you have any Xanadu if they don't play their doublenecks?!

Happy :rush: Day everyone! Sorry for the delay to our European friends, and elsewhere. I'm as excited as a little boy on Christmas morning. I've set a course in front of Best Buy, northwest of my own home, headed for the heart of my band, headlong into R40! RUSH on everybody! :yay:

There's loyalty and then there's blind loyalty. ;) Call it what you want, I was there I loved it, and that is all that matters, I'm happy that you loved it. And I can get how the excitement of being at a live show can cloud your memories of it, but unless you and I are listening to different versions of the R40 Xanadu, there's simply no justification that claim that Geddy "nailed the vocals". Whatever, not going to argue with you :cheers: Nice call. It would probably be similar to arguing with Data, sans emotion chip. :)

I may try and hit up the Tom & Jerry's show in January! That's exactly what I was thinking!

I don't think I had any choice in the fact that I was born after Rush's prime. Now that you've stated that, go back and read his post slowly. It might make sense this time. Regardless, I am not going to be made the "enemy of Rush" because I'm not afraid to voice my disappointment in Neil. Our heroes are human which also mean that they have flaws. Nobody is perfect. I honestly wish less people would be too afraid to admit that Neil isn't perfect and instead, also voice their disappointment that he's killing Rush as a live entity when they are LITERALLY at the top of their game, I mean have you even SEEN how awesome they were on R40? No, instead it's gotta be that we kiss his ass and blindly support his decision. No, I am concientiously refusing to kiss his ass or anyone else's. And if anyone on the forum wants to believe that I am the worlds most shittiest human being simply for voicing my disappointment, please go right ahead. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/R40R/Mobile%20Uploads/MI0002530427_zps51xzilte.jpg

So far none of the R40 videos have been examples of stand-out performances. I get that people were hyped for the tour since the word on the street was that it was going to be their last, and who wouldn't like to think that somehow Rush was going to turn in finale performances that were somehow a cut above, but it seems like the "liking to think that" has somehow translated to "they actually did". Noooooooooooooooo . . . . . . . . . . . :o Say it's not so . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (However, being close to their age, I might like to watch people my own age now! :D) I'm ignoring the blokes who are too jaded or too "smart" to enjoy R40. You can to. :)

Classifying DMB as '90s fratboy music' ignores what it actually is. It's very unique, and pretty darn popular. The band itself is very talented. Beauford's one of the best. Dave's acoustic work is highly unique. Lessard is as solid a bassist as they come. Tim Reynolds can shred with just about anyone. LeRoi (when he was alive) had an iconic sound. Jeff Coffin and Rashawn Ross solo multiple times a night, and I don't think many people understand just how difficult that can be. No song/set is ever played the same, and switching it up 40+ nights each summer is pretty darn impressive. Sure, some of the fans are obnoxious and can't get out of the decade. But go to a show, and you'll see a wide range of people grooving to the music as much as the person next to them. DMB's fan base is as diverse as any -- and very few actually have the 'fratboy' mantra. Obviously, I'm a huge fan. But I don't necessarily think I'm all too biased. I started listening to DMB as someone who generally prefers acoustic work over electric work. For me, DMB (and Dave, especially) is a huge influence on my own musical ventures (even if they're terrible and just a hobby). As for who's better; it's impossible to tell. Beauford is very loose, and Neil is much more tight. I believe someone earlier posted this: neither would fit in the other's band. Jam bands need loose drummers. Beauford controls each and every tune on a given night... How long it's going to be, who solos longer than the other, etc. Neil (and Rush) are more methodical. They like to pick a set and stick to it. Does that make one better than the other? Nope. Both are immensely talented, and fit perfectly within the system. Great post. I use to find DMB kind of annoying. Then someone loaned me the Listener Supported dvd. Holy shit, I had a eureka moment. I was like, I get it! I ended up buying it, and bought a couple albums. Carter is an immensely talented drummer, and I have a lot of respect for him.

Oh no, too close. Not. Watching..

Ha! More like a Roll The Trolls observation. Not that I'm accusing him of being one, but his OP is a cut and paste comment from another thread. The many grammatical and punctuation errors alone is a tell.

Actually, he does see, or at least hears about these interviews. In fact, he first heard about the R40 tour from an interview Alex did, which pissed him off. If you have factual evidence of Neil Peart being "pissed off" by Alex's comments, then post that evidence. If you can't provide such evidence, then you're just bullshitting AGAIN. He isn't bullshitting... Then he can prove it by POSTING THE EVIDENCE. Other than be right about literally everything else? Tell me, why do you believe it? I haven't seen anything that's been right. He sounded and people have said he had acurate tour info, but as far as Rush's interpersonal relationship goes, I believe it's all speculation/hearsay.

You guys are so funny. Wake up and smell the coffee. The only move that will be made is CHECKMATE! It's over. For now.............................. Just speculating. This thread was meant to spur speculation of a positive sort. In my estimation, it sure beats the multiple moaning threads about how it's over and Neil's a blank (insert Match Game music here). Alex and Geddy have both given us a little light. That soothing light at the end of Rush's tunnel is not the freight train coming our way. Signed, No Leaf Clover

My prawns will take all your horsies. Checkmate. Great! I love prawns! http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/sites/default/files/2884661_MEDIUM.jpeg Except shrimp cot.

There's no real money in records anymore, no, but when the artist has the love and passion for making new music (and the money to finance it).. they will do it.