Powderfinger

QUOTE (metaldad @ Jul 24 2012, 04:38 PM) QUOTE (Powderfinger @ Jul 24 2012, 04:08 PM) I'm currently on a major Pink Floyd kick, and am interested in reading a new book on the band. So far I've only read Saucerful of Secrets. Is Comfortably Numb by Mark Blake considered the best book available? Thank you for any and all advice. Get the book by Nick Mason, i think it's called Inside Out . Fantastic book and by the end you will know why Waters was hated by the rest of the group. This is an interesting insight. I read some reviews of Mason's book that criticized it for not getting underneath the surface and pulling punches. But you are offering a different assessment, and now I'm intrigued. I don't know if I should read Mason's Inside Out or Blake's Comfortably Numb.

I'm currently on a major Pink Floyd kick, and am interested in reading a new book on the band. So far I've only read Saucerful of Secrets. Is Comfortably Numb by Mark Blake considered the best book available? Thank you for any and all advice.

I listened to The Division Bell a few times over the weekend. I really love this album. I'm not sure if it gets much respect among diehard Floyd fans, but in my opinion it's shoulders above A Momentary Lapse of Reason. I'm also probably a little biased because I saw them on the Division Bell tour. But it's really a solid album.

QUOTE (Mystic Slipperman @ Jun 13 2012, 10:19 PM) Goober throws down the gauntlet again! These are in loose order.. they shift all the time but this is today's assessment: 1) Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 2) Stevie Wonder - Innervisions 3) The Who - Who's Next 4) Miles Davis - In A Silent Way 5) Sandy Denny - Sandy 6) Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy 7) Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Rust Never Sleeps 8) Rush - Permanent Waves 9) Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die 10) Yes - The Yes Album 11) The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers 12) The Beatles - Abbey Road 13) Pink Floyd - Meddle 14) Genesis - Duke 15) The Band - Music From Big Pink 16) Weather Report - 8:30 17) Miles Davis - Nefertiti 18) Bill Evans Trio - Sunday at the Village Vanguard 19) Bill Evans Trio - Waltz for Debby 20) Grateful Dead - Europe '72 21) Bob Marley & The Wailers - Legend 22) The Who - Quadrophenia 23) Sandy Denny - The Northstar Grassman and the Ravens 24) Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin 3 25) Rush - Hold Your Fire 26) Traffic - The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys 27) The Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour 28) Genesis - Wind and Wuthering 29) The Band - The Band 30) Weather Report - Black Market 31) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here 32) Miles Davis - My Funny Valentine 33) Miles Davis - Four And More 34) Grateful Dead - American Beauty 35) Beach Boys - Surf's Up 36) Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks 37) Keith Jarrett - My Song 38) Steely Dan - The Royal Scam 39) Pink Floyd - Animals 40) U2 - The Unforgettable Fire 41) The Allman Brothers - At Fillmore East 42) Van Morrison - Saint Dominic's Preview 43) Joni Mitchell - Hejira 44) Mike Rutherford - Smallcreep's Day 45) Yes - 90125 46) Grateful Dead - American Beauty 47) Genesis - Selling England By The Pound 48) Rush - Signals 49) The Police - Ghost in the Machine 50) The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night 51) The Who - The Who Sell Out 52) XTC - Apple Venus Volume 1 53) Jimi Hendrix Experience - Axis: Bold As Love 54) Otis Redding - Dreams to Remember - The Otis Redding Anthology 55) George Harrison - All Things Must Pass 56) Marvin Gaye - What's Going On 57) R.E.M. - Life's Rich Pageant 58) The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street 59) Horace Silver - The Jody Grind 60) Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home 61) Simon & Garfunkel - Bookends 62) Duke Ellington & John Coltrane 63) Elton John - Captain Fantastic & The Brown Dirt Cowboy 64) Yes - Close to the Edge 65) Rush - Grace Under Pressure 66) Toy Matinee 67) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon 68) Bill Withers - Live at Carnegie Hall 69) Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run 70) Neil Young - Harvest 71) Donny Hathaway - Live 72) Clifford Brown & Max Roach 73) Miles Davis - Seven Steps To Heaven 74) Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland 75) Rolling Stones - It's Only Rock And Roll 76) XTC - English Settlement 77) Grateful Dead - Workingman's Dead 78) Traffic - When The Eagle Flies 79) Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues 80) Joni Mitchell - Miles of Aisles 81) Genesis - A Trick of the Tail 82) Fotheringay - Fotheringay 83) Stevie Wonder - Fulfillingness' First Finale 84) Beach Boys - Pet Sounds 85) Weather Report - Mysterious Traveller 86) Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV 87) The Who - The Who By Numbers 88) Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited 89) Seal - Human Being 90) David Crosby - If I Could Only Remember My Name 91) Toad the Wet Sprocket - Coil 92) Led Zeppelin - Presence 93) Van Morrison - Moondance 94) Rush - Moving Pictures 95) Yes - Relayer 96) The Beatles - Revolver 97) Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti 98) Crowded House - Time On Earth 99) Sigur Ros - Takk.... 100) The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band This is a great list. Lots of overlap with my own. I haven't counted, but we have to have at least 30 albums in common on our respective lists. Good stuff! Edit: And I especially like the inclusion of Saint Dominic's Preview. The title track is my favorite Van song, and one of my ten, if not five, favorite songs of all time...

I tried, but couldn't do it.

I think I have it somewhere between 8-10. And at this point in their career that is highly impressive! Edit: Sorry for the double post...

I think I have it somewhere between 8-10. And at this point in their career that is highly impressive!

I went with LVS. Vital Signs and Natural Science closely competed. Love The Garden, but the power of LVS cannot be denied after all these years.

The question about Losing It was sort of random. Maybe the interviewer, like many of us, wants to hear it on the upcoming tour and was hoping that Geddy would drop a clue...

I don't have a five-disc player of any sort, but this week's listening has been dominated by: Camel - Moonmadness Yes - Yessongs Supertramp - Crime of the Century Pink Floyd - all Chris Robinson Brotherhood - Big Moon Ritual + live cuts from current tour

QUOTE (Imaginos @ Jul 11 2012, 11:24 AM) This weeks main albums have been... Rush - "Clockwork Angels" Ginger Wildheart - "100%" Panic Room - "Skin" Marillion - "Live - New York 12th & 13th June 2012" Chris Robinson Brotherhood - "Big Moon Ritual" Just caught CRB last night in Kansas City. Also caught the Pittsfield, MA show on this tour. LOVE the new album, and they kill live...

I'm currently in the process of becoming hooked on Moonmadness...

QUOTE (the masked drummer @ Jul 11 2012, 03:35 PM) QUOTE (Powderfinger @ Jul 11 2012, 02:23 PM) I love the part about not trusting Ray Danniels for management. Because, you know, Rush isn't a class act and a model for career longetivity or anything... I mean, isn't it easy to imagine Geddy knocking over Neil's drumkit and calling Alex a "pu$$y" and "motherf&%$er" while spitting in his face twenty minutes before the live curtain goes up? In his Rolling Stone interview Tate acted so confused over why the band was pushing him out. What a joke. Even if the Rockenfield and Wilton accounts are biased and exaggerated in any respect Tate was clearly way out of line. I haven't cared about this band since Empire, but I was intrigued by this story. When I was 14 I caught them on the Empire tour and got to go backstage to meet the band, sans Tate, who wasn't there. I do have to say that while Michael Wilton's declaration and Scott's were very moving and sound very clear and it sounds like they did everything possible to keep Geoff, but the bit about Ray Danniels I can understand. Ray screwed Van Halen so bad I could see not trusting him. Not saying anything negative about Ray's devotion to Rush and all his hard work he's done for them but Ray set Van Halen up for a Tour of no profits when they should have netted millions of dollars. It's a cut throat business, so cut throat even the van halen brothers fell for Ray's management style which, in hindsight, seems like a bonehead move. With that said, I'm bummed Tate will have likely a more lucrative career than QR, but at least they will be able to make a living doing what they love, and maybe even climb the charts again. Who knows... On one final note, these true hollywood stories give me a sense of contentment that maybe in the grand scheme of things I was better off and am still better off having a day job and playing the drums for fun and extra spending cash. To exist in a band like QR for years on end, i think i would have gone completely nuts having to work in a band that was once a titanic, now just a life raft barely floating. That would suck really, really bad to watch all you worked for that once flourished go down the tubes in the name of one selfish and greedy band member. There's no "I" in Team, kids. I didn't know that about Ray Danniels. My only real awareness of him stems from his management of Rush. Thank you for your insight.

I love the part about not trusting Ray Danniels for management. Because, you know, Rush isn't a class act and a model for career longetivity or anything... I mean, isn't it easy to imagine Geddy knocking over Neil's drumkit and calling Alex a "pu$$y" and "motherf&%$er" while spitting in his face twenty minutes before the live curtain goes up? In his Rolling Stone interview Tate acted so confused over why the band was pushing him out. What a joke. Even if the Rockenfield and Wilton accounts are biased and exaggerated in any respect Tate was clearly way out of line. I haven't cared about this band since Empire, but I was intrigued by this story. When I was 14 I caught them on the Empire tour and got to go backstage to meet the band, sans Tate, who wasn't there.

ZZ Top Stevie Ray Vaughan RHCP Those are the first three that come to mind.

The Wreckers Clockwork Angels The Garden Caravan Headlong Flight BU2B The Anarchist Carnies BU2B2 Seven Cities of Gold Halo Effect Wish Them Well 1-5 are slightly interchangeable depending on the day. Seven Cities of Gold has potential to climb--I just need to spend more time with it. I must admit I wasn't entirely blown away by Caravan and BU2B upon first introduction, and I thought Headlong Flight was good, but not necessarily classic. Something about hearing them in the context of the record has changed that opinion, especially where Caravan and Headlong Flight are concerned. I've really fallen in love with those two tracks. Caravan, in particular, is often playing in my head. That's significant, because there was a time when I would have trouble recalling how it went. I guess for me it just didn't work as a single. But it really came to life in album format!

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 3 2012, 01:11 PM) QUOTE (Powderfinger @ Jul 3 2012, 09:49 AM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 3 2012, 10:41 AM) QUOTE (Powderfinger @ Jul 3 2012, 08:37 AM) The Wreckers might be my favorite tune on CA. But it is held back by the maddening decision to fade it out just when it sounded like a soaring Lifeson solo was ready to take flight. I'm hoping they'll stretch it out live. I listened to the album a few times before I heard anyone complain about this. One time when I listened again I paid attention to the fact that the song faded out since people seemed to be bothered by it. Just like the first few times I heard the song, it seems like a big nothing that the song fades out - makes no difference to me. The song is great. Fading it out doesn't register to me positively or negatively at all, in fact, usually I don't even notice that it fades out. No offense to you or anyone, but it seems like a silly thing to get caught up on. It's not "silly" to me. This is the first time I've said anything about the album at all. It was a considered point, at least I thought. As mentioned, The Wreckers is my favorite track on the album, and I invoked The Spirit of Radio and Limelight in my praise for it. I noticed the fade out on my first spin. I knew about 20 seconds into The Wreckers that it was my favorite track and I was totally digging it. Then I noticed with 16 seconds left Lifeson launches a stellar sounding solo with wonderful tone and they kill it. I think even just five or ten more seconds of it would have been much more satisfying. All I'm really saying is that I like it so much I want more of it... Again, it's my favorite track on an album that is probably my favorite since Signals. It's okay to have a few criticisms, no? If anything isn't that an indication that I'm listening carefully? It's all good, and I did totally appreciate and understand that you were coming from a place of loving the song. It was just a non-issue for me. It's cool if it is for you. Indeed, it's all good. I was just caught off guard and got a little defensive. I've always looked up to you as a model of an intelligent and respectful forum member who thinks about and listens critically to Rush's music. That's all I was trying to achieve with my own contribution. That was the first time I've said anything about the new album. And as the first friend I made on this forum I was confused by your decision to isolate just one aspect of my admittedly hasty post. I absolutely love the album, but it was slow going at first. Like you, I listen critically and expect nothing but the best from Rush. Yes?

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 3 2012, 10:41 AM) QUOTE (Powderfinger @ Jul 3 2012, 08:37 AM) The Wreckers might be my favorite tune on CA. But it is held back by the maddening decision to fade it out just when it sounded like a soaring Lifeson solo was ready to take flight. I'm hoping they'll stretch it out live. I listened to the album a few times before I heard anyone complain about this. One time when I listened again I paid attention to the fact that the song faded out since people seemed to be bothered by it. Just like the first few times I heard the song, it seems like a big nothing that the song fades out - makes no difference to me. The song is great. Fading it out doesn't register to me positively or negatively at all, in fact, usually I don't even notice that it fades out. No offense to you or anyone, but it seems like a silly thing to get caught up on. It's not "silly" to me. This is the first time I've said anything about the album at all. It was a considered point, at least I thought. As mentioned, The Wreckers is my favorite track on the album, and I invoked The Spirit of Radio and Limelight in my praise for it. I noticed the fade out on my first spin. I knew about 20 seconds into The Wreckers that it was my favorite track and I was totally digging it. Then I noticed with 16 seconds left Lifeson launches a stellar sounding solo with wonderful tone and they kill it. I think even just five or ten more seconds of it would have been much more satisfying. All I'm really saying is that I like it so much I want more of it... Again, it's my favorite track on an album that is probably my favorite since Signals. It's okay to have a few criticisms, no? If anything isn't that an indication that I'm listening carefully?

The Wreckers might be my favorite tune on CA. But it is held back by the maddening decision to fade it out just when it sounded like a soaring Lifeson solo was ready to take flight. I'm hoping they'll stretch it out live. It might be my favorite simply because more than any other tune on the album it approaches a classic verse-melody and chorus hook akin to Spirit of Radio, Limelight, etc. I thought Halo Effect was a skipper, but I enjoyed it during my most recent listen. Wish Them Well is definitely a skipper for me and the only song on the album I really can't stand. So far Seven Cities of Gold isn't doing much for me, but I'm not skipping it, because I think it has value that I have simply yet to recognize. And finally, I don't mind BU2B2 at all. It's short and different. This is the first time I've weighed in on the new album, and I regret that I'm not being more articulate. But I've been traveling and busy. It was definitely a grower for me, but it's really beginning to sink in and I think it's at least their best album since Hold Your Fire, and maybe their best since Signals, which is my favorite Rush album--so that's saying quite a bit. On the first two or three spins I was entirely underwhelmed. And as mentioned I do think there's some filler. But every album since Signals has contained filler IMHO. The more I kept that in mind the more I opened up to CA's value. (I went in hoping to hear a masterpiece, which wasn't fair, or the right approach.) The "filler" on CA is superior to some of the best tracks on albums like Presto, Roll the Bones, and even Counterparts as far as I'm concerned. But yes, I LOVE The Wreckers and do NOT love Wish Them Well.

Yep. One of my ten favorite guitarists of all time. Big fan of Voyage of the Acolyte. Massive fan of his work with Genesis. Return of the Giant Hogweed, Fly on the Windshield... It's rarely mentioned, but he kills on the Genesis Live version of The Knife. Looking forward to getting Squackett!

Bill Callahan - Sometimes I Wish We Were an Eagle

QUOTE (presto123 @ May 29 2012, 10:59 PM) Here's my list a little more towards the mainstream side 1.Rush-Moving Pictures 2.Oueensryche-Operation Mindcrime 3.Iron Maiden-Piece Of Mind 4.Van Halen-Fair Warning 5.King's X-Out Of Silent Planet 6.Cranberries-No Need To Argue 7.Dream Theater-Awake 8.Police-Zenyatta Mondatta 9.Boston-Boston 10.Foreigner-4 11.Rush-Grace Under Pressure 12.Queensryche-Empire 13.Level 42-Running In The Family 14.AC/DC-Back In Black 15.Iron Maiden-Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son 16.Rush-Permanent Waves 17.Rush-Signals 18.Filter-Title Of Record 19.Steve Vai-Passion And Warfare 20.King's X-Dogman 21.Genesis-Abacab 22.Rush-Power Windows 23.Van Halen-1984 24.Kim Mitchell-Akimbo Alogo 25.The Cars-Candy O 26.Journey-Escape 27. Queensryche-Rage For Order 28.Kiss-Alive 2 29.Iron Maiden-Powerslave 30.Guns n Roses-Appetite For Destruction 31.Iron Maiden-Number Of Beast 32.Depeche Mode-Violator 33.Fleetwood Mac-Rumors 34.Van Halen-VH 1 35.Molly Hatchet-Flirtin With Disaster 36.REO Speedwagon-Hi Infidelity 37.Moody Blues-Other Side Of Life 38.Cranberries-Bury The Hatchet 39.Mister Mister-Welcome To The Real World 40-Garbage-Version 2.0 41.-Republica-Republica 42.King's X-Gretchen Goes To Nebraska 43.Led Zeppelin-Houses Of Holy 44.Steely Dan-Aja 45.Van Halen-OU812 46.Eagles-Hotel California 47.Outfield-Play Deep 48.Boston-Don't Look Back 49.Hooters-One Way Home 50.Alice In Chains-Dirt 51.Krokus-The Blitz 52.Def Leppard-Pyromania 53.The Cars-The Cars 54.Bob Seger-Night Moves 55.Foreigner-Double Vision 56.Genesis-Genesis 57.Aerosmith-Pump 58.Dream Theater-Scenes From A Memory 59.Triumph-Thunder Seven 60.Hall and Oates-Ooh Yeah 61.John Mellencamp-Scarecrow 62.ZZ Top-Eliminator 63.Police-Synchronicity 64.Madonna-Immaculate Collection 65.Michael Jackson-Thriller 66.Led Zeppelin-Led Zeppelin 4 67.Heart-Dreamboat Annie 68.Elton John-Goodbye Yellow Brick Road 69.Linkin Park-Hybrid Theory 70.Aerosmith-Permanent Vacation 71.Def Leppard-Hysteria 72.Megadeth-Countdown To Extinction 73.Black Crowes-Shake Your Money Maker 74.Bon Jovi-Slippery When Wet 75.AC/DC-Highway To Hell 76.Red Hot Chili Peppers-Blood Sugar Sex Magic 77.Dokken-Tooth and Nail 78.Pink Floyd-The Wall 79.Supertramp-Breakfast In America 80.Led Zeppelin-Physical Grafitti 81.Stone Temple Pilots-Core 82.Styx-Grand Illusion 83.Billy Joel-52nd Street 84.Duran Duran-RIO 85.Ozzy Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz 86.Sheryl Crow-Sheryl Crow 87.Rolling Stones-Some Girls 88.Phil Collins-No Jacket Required 89.Bryan Adams-Reckless 90.Level 42-Forever Now 91.Beatles- Sgt. Pepper 92.The Who-Who's Next 93.Motley Crue-Shout At The Devil 94.U2-Joshua Tree 95.Billy Idol-Rebel Yell 96.Yes-Fragile 97.Metallica-Black album 98.Queensryche-Promised Land 99.Deep Purple-Machine Head 100.David Lee Roth-Skyscraper I'm a big fan of numerous albums on your list. I do have one question: As a self-proclaimed Black Crowes freak, I gotta ask if you ever ventured beyond Shake Your Moneymaker? And your high ranking for The Police reminds me that I really need to give their music a chance. I like some of the hits, but I really don't know the album cuts, or really where to begin.

I'm considering catching the Chicago date if I can come up with the money.

QUOTE (micgtr71 @ May 29 2012, 07:31 PM) This is one piece of vinyl that I actually wore down and replaced. I listened to this album constantly when I was in high school. One of my favorite records ever. Squire's bass playing and compositional skills were amazing. This album never sounds dated. I'm going to spin it later tonight. You made a great point here. It doesn't sound dated at all. I was impressed by how fresh it sounds.