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[Merely Space]

EagleMoon, on 25 May 2015 - 01:34 PM, said:

mrfriendly, on 25 May 2015 - 01:25 PM, said:

EagleMoon, on 22 May 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

Del_Duio, on 22 May 2015 - 02:55 PM, said:

Geddy with the thunderbird looks.... wrong, somehow.

I thought that too. It looks funny on him. But then they are oddly shaped basses.

I am no expert on basses but that thunderbird model just doesnt seem to fit for songs like OLV/How It Is for me. Again I guess on any bass you shouldn't have drastic changes in sound, you are playing the same notes for that song maybe some differences in tone I guess? But still thunderbird just looks weird on him for OLV.

Could someone also help me understand how the double bass works exactly for Xanadu? I noticed on the new orleans video which is really good he plays the top part for most of it and I only saw him play the second part at the end I think. What exactly is the difference and is the whole thing more for show than anything? I imagine it would be since he played it fine on R30 with a normal bass.

The top part is a bass, the bottom is a guitar.

Geddy plays rhythm guitar while Alex does the outro solo.  It does result in a fuller sound for that part of the song.  It didn't matter for R30, because they played a truncated version that didn't have that part.

Edited by Merely Space, 25 May 2015 - 03:16 PM.

[rushbass]

I must say that this was hard to discern even with all the pictures I took in New Orleans.  And I had to refer back to the tour book listing, and its picture of the basses in the rack.

For instance, the Sonic Blue Jazz looked white in all my pics under the lighting (Sonic Blue is a very light blue, and in the tour book, it has a white pick guard). Also, the 1966 Fiesta Red Jazz listed in the tour book looks more like Candy Apple Red in all my pics.  On a side note, the 1960 Fiesta Red Jazz definitely looks Fiesta Red in my pics.



So here it is:  Every bass played at the New Orleans concert, as viewed through my camera eye...  ;-)


Set 1:

The Anarchist - 1972 Fender Jazz Bass (Black, My Number One)




The Wreckers - 1965 Fender Jazz Bass (White)





Headlong Flight - 1962 Fender Jazz Bass (Sea Foam Green)





Far Cry - 1962 Fender Jazz Bass (Sea Foam Green)





The Main Monkey Business - 1972 Fender Jazz Bass (Blonde)  





How It Is - 1967 Gibson Thunderbird II (Polaris White)





Animate - 1964 Gibson Thunderbird IV (Sunburst)





Roll The Bones - 1959 Fender Precision Bass (Olympic White with matching headstock)





Between The Wheels - 1964 Fender Jazz Bass (Sonic Blue with matching headstock) - Yes, I know it looks white in this pic.. ;-)





Subdivisions - 1964 Fender Jazz Bass (Lake Placid Blue with matching headstock)





Set 2:

Tom Sawyer - 1972 Fender Jazz Bass (Black, My Number One)





The Camera Eye - 1968 Rickenbacker Model 4001 (BurgundyGlo)





The Spirit of Radio - 1960 Fender Jazz Bass (Fiesta Red)





Jacob's Ladder - 1965 Fender Precision Bass (Burgundy Mist)





Hemispheres: Prelude - Fender Jazz Bass (Trans Red Custom Shop)





Cygnus X-1 - 1966 Fender Jazz Bass (Fiesta Red with matching headstock) - This does not look like Fiesta Red to me in this light





Closer To The Heart - 1967 Rickenbacker Model 3261 (FireGlo)





Xanadu - 1975 Rickenbacker Model 4080/12 (JetGlo)





2112 Overture/The Temples of Syrinx/Presentation/Grand Finale - 1963 Fender Jazz Bass (Black with matching headstock)





Encore:

Lakeside Park and Anthem - 1968 Fender Telecaster Bass (Paisley)






What You're Doing - 1961 Hofner Solid Body 2 Pickup (Cherry Red)





Working Man (Garden Road riff at the end) - 1966 Fender Jazz Bass (Shoreline Gold with matching headstock)

[gudbuytjane]

rushbass, on 25 May 2015 - 03:53 PM, said:

I must say that this was hard to discern even with all the pictures I took in New Orleans.  And I had to refer back to the tour book listing, and its picture of the basses in the rack.

For instance, the Sonic Blue Jazz looked white in all my pics under the lighting (Sonic Blue is a very light blue, and in the tour book, it has a white pick guard). Also, the 1966 Fiesta Red Jazz listed in the tour book looks more like Candy Apple Red in all my pics.  On a side note, the 1960 Fiesta Red Jazz definitely looks Fiesta Red in my pics.

(snip)

This post is amaaaazing! So cool, thank you for doing all that work. It's so hard to pick out some of the colours under the lights.

Also, I'm glad to know I'm not the only person so obsessive about this stuff.

[rushbass]

gudbuytjane, on 25 May 2015 - 03:59 PM, said:

rushbass, on 25 May 2015 - 03:53 PM, said:

I must say that this was hard to discern even with all the pictures I took in New Orleans.  And I had to refer back to the tour book listing, and its picture of the basses in the rack.

For instance, the Sonic Blue Jazz looked white in all my pics under the lighting (Sonic Blue is a very light blue, and in the tour book, it has a white pick guard). Also, the 1966 Fiesta Red Jazz listed in the tour book looks more like Candy Apple Red in all my pics.  On a side note, the 1960 Fiesta Red Jazz definitely looks Fiesta Red in my pics.

(snip)

This post is amaaaazing! So cool, thank you for doing all that work. It's so hard to pick out some of the colours under the lights.

Also, I'm glad to know I'm not the only person so obsessive about this stuff.

You are welcome... and yes, I am all about that bass, 'bout that bass - no treble!  

[mrfriendly]

Great post and I am not a guitar guy but would be very interested to see everything Alex has.

[rushbass]

Here is a cool impromtu backstage tour video from Tampa... the bass tech is taking a guy around.

https://www.youtube....h?v=klOp100Or7g

The bass tech says that the Jetglo doubleneck is not his actual original one!  I guess the original is still at the RRHOF Museum?  Or at his house???

Also, the bass tech calls the Red Jazz with matching headstock and white pickguard "Candy Apple Red" even though it is listed as Fiesta Red in the tour book... I knew that was CAR, not Fiesta Red!


https://www.youtube....h?v=klOp100Or7g

[gudbuytjane]

rushbass, on 25 May 2015 - 05:28 PM, said:

Here is a cool impromtu backstage tour video from Tampa... the bass tech is taking a guy around.

https://www.youtube....h?v=klOp100Or7g

The bass tech says that the Jetglo doubleneck is not his actual original one!  I guess the original is still at the RRHOF Museum?  Or at his house???

Also, the bass tech calls the Red Jazz with matching headstock and white pickguard "Candy Apple Red" even though it is listed as Fiesta Red in the tour book... I knew that was CAR, not Fiesta Red!


https://www.youtube....h?v=klOp100Or7g

Amazing, but damn--the user removed the videos JUST as I was watching the first one. By the time I clicked on the second they were both gone.

That was an amazing video! So glad I got to see it. And nice to have certain instruments verified by the tech.

[Merely Space]

A)  Damn, Rushbass, good job!

B)  Damn, I wish I could have seen those videos.

C)  Does anyone else find it odd that the paisley telecaster bass looks more like a stratocaster?

[gudbuytjane]

Merely Space, on 25 May 2015 - 06:06 PM, said:

C)  Does anyone else find it odd that the paisley telecaster bass looks more like a stratocaster?

Yeah, it's always seemed odd to me they called it the Telecaster Bass when it came out in 1968, when it was actually more Precision Bass Classic, mimicking the original P-bass design from 1951-1956. The new Precision design (aka the one we're used to as being the P-bass) was apparently designed to look more like a Strat, and has a far Strat-ier headstock, vs. the original, which is pretty Telecaster-like. Maybe that's what inspired the name when they revived the original design. Also, I think the body of the Tele bass is far more an uncontoured slab of wood, like Tele guitar bodies, vs. the contours of the Precision/Strat.

[rushbass]

gudbuytjane, on 25 May 2015 - 05:55 PM, said:

rushbass, on 25 May 2015 - 05:28 PM, said:

Here is a cool impromtu backstage tour video from Tampa... the bass tech is taking a guy around.

https://www.youtube....h?v=klOp100Or7g

The bass tech says that the Jetglo doubleneck is not his actual original one!  I guess the original is still at the RRHOF Museum?  Or at his house???

Also, the bass tech calls the Red Jazz with matching headstock and white pickguard "Candy Apple Red" even though it is listed as Fiesta Red in the tour book... I knew that was CAR, not Fiesta Red!


https://www.youtube....h?v=klOp100Or7g

Amazing, but damn--the user removed the videos JUST as I was watching the first one. By the time I clicked on the second they were both gone.

That was an amazing video! So glad I got to see it. And nice to have certain instruments verified by the tech.

oops, yep it got pulled quick...let's just say with high probability, that it didn't take too long for this unofficial vid to get back to the band's management... move along, nothing to see here!

I'm glad you got to see it (as well as me) before it got the plug pulled!

Edited by rushbass, 25 May 2015 - 06:18 PM.

[Merely Space]

gudbuytjane, on 25 May 2015 - 06:15 PM, said:

Merely Space, on 25 May 2015 - 06:06 PM, said:

C)  Does anyone else find it odd that the paisley telecaster bass looks more like a stratocaster?

Yeah, it's always seemed odd to me they called it the Telecaster Bass when it came out in 1968, when it was actually more Precision Bass Classic, mimicking the original P-bass design from 1951-1956. The new Precision design (aka the one we're used to as being the P-bass) was apparently designed to look more like a Strat, and has a far Strat-ier headstock, vs. the original, which is pretty Telecaster-like. Maybe that's what inspired the name when they revived the original design. Also, I think the body of the Tele bass is far more an uncontoured slab of wood, like Tele guitar bodies, vs. the contours of the Precision/Strat.

Exactly!  The only thing telecastery about it to me is the flatness of it.  Well, and the headstock.

[EagleMoon]

Merely Space, on 25 May 2015 - 03:15 PM, said:

EagleMoon, on 25 May 2015 - 01:34 PM, said:

mrfriendly, on 25 May 2015 - 01:25 PM, said:

EagleMoon, on 22 May 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

Del_Duio, on 22 May 2015 - 02:55 PM, said:

Geddy with the thunderbird looks.... wrong, somehow.

I thought that too. It looks funny on him. But then they are oddly shaped basses.

I am no expert on basses but that thunderbird model just doesnt seem to fit for songs like OLV/How It Is for me. Again I guess on any bass you shouldn't have drastic changes in sound, you are playing the same notes for that song maybe some differences in tone I guess? But still thunderbird just looks weird on him for OLV.

Could someone also help me understand how the double bass works exactly for Xanadu? I noticed on the new orleans video which is really good he plays the top part for most of it and I only saw him play the second part at the end I think. What exactly is the difference and is the whole thing more for show than anything? I imagine it would be since he played it fine on R30 with a normal bass.

The top part is a bass, the bottom is a guitar.

Geddy plays rhythm guitar while Alex does the outro solo.  It does result in a fuller sound for that part of the song.  It didn't matter for R30, because they played a truncated version that didn't have that part.

Right. Thanks. I was on my phone when I answered that before, and couldn't write it all out.

[gudbuytjane]

rushbass, on 25 May 2015 - 06:16 PM, said:

oops, yep it got pulled quick...let's just say with high probability, that it didn't take too long for this unofficial vid to get back to the band's management... move along, nothing to see here!

I'm glad you got to see it (as well as me) before it got the plug pulled!

One interesting thing, as they were looking at instruments the only 4001 was the BurgundyGlo one, unless I missed the JetGlo? Does that mean he's only using the Burgundy one? I just looked at the Tulsa video of Red Barchetta and I'm pretty sure now it's the burgundy, not the black (egad that is hard to make out, especially when all the lighting colours are either light blue or purple!). Curiouser and curiouser.

It did seem, too, from the tech's commentary that the only song Geddy's switching instruments from night to night is on Xanadu (the two doublenecks).

[gudbuytjane]

Oh, and also cool the tech mentioned the Zemaitis bass used to be owned by Bob Daisley!

[Gilbertk]

Wal by the end of the tour... Wal by the end of the tour... Wal by the end of the tour....

[Mieko8]

So, just so I'm clear, he is NOT playing his famous black Ricky that was his number one for so many years?  WTF?  Why isn't he playing it?  At least we got to see it for Bangcock in 2007.

[ctbadger]

I'm guessing I'm in the minority in wanting to see Ged break out the Steinberger for DEW...

[Mieko8]

I don't think it's sonic blue.  I think it is actually white.  His sonic blue is the one he got for the CA tour.  He played it for the Garden.

[78jazz]

Mieko8, on 25 May 2015 - 10:19 PM, said:

I don't think it's sonic blue.  I think it is actually white.  His sonic blue is the one he got for the CA tour.  He played it for the Garden.

Funny this gets mentioned, as when I first saw this bass it appeared Inca silver to me (but I have yet to see this tour and won't see the B set, so this is based off of videos).

As for the bass used on the Garden, that is surf green.

[The Omega Concern]

Great post! I was wondering how many equipment switched he had made. Geddy really looks to be enjoying himself this tour (although he looked pained by the doubleneck a few times in Tampa). I too would love to see Steiny return for DEW!