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#21 HomesickAlien

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:20 PM

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It may be unethical to foist horse meat on an unsuspecting public, but does it really matter if the ungulate on your plate is a cow or a horse? I'd be hesitant about eating horse meat, but that's just a cultural taboo. Unless you're a vegetarian on moral grounds, you shouldn't be too squeamish about the thought of eating horse meat.
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You could say the same thing about dog meat or cat meat (looking right at you,  Korea and China.)

When I am eating meat, I should be able to figure it is cow unless otherwise specified.

I live right next to horse country in Virginia.  Believe me,  people want to know what the meat they are eating is.

I wasn't suggesting that people should be sold mislabeled meat. I'm sure I'd be upset if I ate what I thought was beef, only to later discover it was horse meat. My point was that if someone eats beef they shouldn't be too indignant about the idea of eating horse.

I'm trying to backpedal as gracefully as possible, so cut me some slack. :P

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:20 PM

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You just gotta believe its happening in America...especially Virginia and New York. Watch out for those Banquet Microwave meals for a buck.

Thank God I'm not on the Poverty Menu!
It makes one rethink beef burritos from your favorite local supermarket. Taquito' s anyone?

Edited by Tombstone Mountain, 10 February 2013 - 10:21 PM.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:14 AM

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If they consume haggis, then how shocking is horse then?

Yeah, but, when you choose haggis, you KNOW what you're getting (and if you're smart, you'll choose something else... :P). When you think you're eating 100% beef and you're unwittingly eating horse....neigh...

Haggis is gorgeous. And with neeps and tatties....mmmmm

You have the neep and I'll take the tatties!  :D

Don't know what  a neep is, but I'll take the haggis. Preferable to horse-flavored lasagna...

Neeps are turnips!
How the heck did I leave the above post blank?!  :o

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:15 AM

What's the big freakin' deal? Who decides which dead animal is acceptable to eat and which isn't? What is so shocking about eating a horse when you're going to eat a pig, cow, chicken, etc...?

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:20 AM

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What's the big freakin' deal? Who decides which dead animal is acceptable to eat and which isn't? What is so shocking about eating a horse when you're going to eat a pig, cow, chicken, etc...?
Good question...is it because a horse is really a pet?

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:51 AM

Here's an update on the Horsemeat crisis—TM

http://www.independe...ey-8489030.html


Horsemeat found in British supermarkets 'may be donkey'







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A law banning horses from Romanian roads may be responsible for the surge in the fraudulent sale of horsemeat on the European beef market, a French politician said yesterday.

Horse-drawn carts were a common form of transport for centuries in Romania, but hundreds of thousands of the animals are feared to have been sent to the abattoir after the change in road rules.

The law, which was passed six years ago but only enforced recently, also banned carts drawn by donkeys, leading to speculation among food-industry officials in France that some of the “horse meat” which has turned up on supermarket shelves in Britain, France and Sweden may, in fact, turn out to be donkey meat. “Horses have been banned from Romanian roads and millions of animals have been sent to the slaughterhouse,” said Jose Bove, a veteran campaigner for small farmers who is now vice-president of the European Parliament agriculture committee.

After a couple of days in which the horse meat affair was seen as a largely British problem, the scandal began to be taken seriously by French politicians and newspapers over the weekend.

The French consumer minister, Benoît Hamon, said today that he would not hesitate to take legal action if evidence emerged that the two French companies which handled the meat had been aware of the fraud.

In passing, Mr Hamon also took a swipe at the British Government. He said that London was complaining about weak European food inspection while cutting the budget for EU food-safety checks in Brussels.

His warning came as France's biggest supermarket chains removed more of their own-label and Findus processed dishes from their shelves.

Mr Hamon said that preliminary investigation by the French agency that combats consumer fraud had uncovered the Byzantine route taken by the “fake” beef.

It came from abattoirs in Romania through a dealer in Cyprus working through another dealer in Holland to a meat plant in the south of France which sold it to a French-owned factory in Luxembourg which made it into frozen meals sold in supermarkets in 16 countries.

Meanwhile, legal action over the horse meat scandal is to be mounted in Europe, Environment Secretary Owen Paterson has said as he described the contamination of beef products as a case of fraud against the public.

Mr Paterson said the scandal appeared to be "extensive" across Europe but he repeated his rejection of calls for a ban on meat imports, saying that the Food Standards Agency (FSA) advice was that all products on sale are safe for consumption.
"This is a case of fraud and a conspiracy against the public, this is a criminal action, substituting one material for another," he told BBC Breakfast in answer to questioning about calls for a ban on meat imports.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:55 AM

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:05 PM

View PostTombstone Mountain, on 11 February 2013 - 11:20 AM, said:

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What's the big freakin' deal? Who decides which dead animal is acceptable to eat and which isn't? What is so shocking about eating a horse when you're going to eat a pig, cow, chicken, etc...?
Good question...is it because a horse is really a pet?

It's called "selective compassion" and varies from country to country.

In the U.S. we have decided that dogs and cats are not food, they are companions. In India they won't eat cows because they are sacred. In China, well, they eat everything...

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:07 PM

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What's the big freakin' deal? Who decides which dead animal is acceptable to eat and which isn't? What is so shocking about eating a horse when you're going to eat a pig, cow, chicken, etc...?
Good question...is it because a horse is really a pet?

It's called "selective compassion" and varies from country to country.

In the U.S. we have decided that dogs and cats are not food, they are companions. In India they won't eat cows because they are sacred. In China, well, they eat everything...
We don't have "selective compassion" in the swamp

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:25 PM

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View Postlibrarian, on 08 February 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

If they consume haggis, then how shocking is horse then?

Yeah, but, when you choose haggis, you KNOW what you're getting (and if you're smart, you'll choose something else... :P). When you think you're eating 100% beef and you're unwittingly eating horse....neigh...

Exactly, eaten horse meat with  kazakhstan friends, but we were told it was horse. Totally misleading(lies really) packaging.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:36 PM

"This beef tastes like ass!"

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:35 PM

Not sure why they'd be too worried about bute in the slaughter chain as bute is generally a drug administered to competition horses. Not to say that racehorses and jumpers don't get sent to slaughter (they do, although less often than in North America), but they're not meant for human consumption.  Bute isn't the only concern either - there is also acepromazine, a common animal tranq.

Europeans breed meat horses specifically, and sporthorse breeders in countries like the Netherlands send their culls to slaughter.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:56 PM

Comanche indians ate their horses all the time no big deal, and they then made them into pants and shoes and little headbands and beads. Horses are a resource! Ride, eat and wear!

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:06 PM

Aw, ****.., not donkey as well..!  :facepalm:

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:12 PM

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Aw, ****.., not donkey as well..!  :facepalm:
how awesome that we can make lasagna out of donkey....what a fascinating, modern age we live in.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:14 PM

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What's the big freakin' deal? Who decides which dead animal is acceptable to eat and which isn't? What is so shocking about eating a horse when you're going to eat a pig, cow, chicken, etc...?

But you're a vegan, are you not?  Is this one of your arguments for veganism?  If are will eat a cow or a pig, then why not a horse, dog, or cat?

Believe me, I totally respect your dietary choice/lifestyle.  But you should understand that meat eaters can, and most certainly do, draw the line at what we will eat.

In my world, for instance, certain animals are for consumption, while others are for companionship. It's not really that difficult.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:15 PM

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Aw, ****.., not donkey as well..!  :facepalm:
how awesome that we can make lasagna out of donkey....what a fascinating, modern age we live in.

I would never knowingly eat Donkey Lasagna.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:16 PM

View Posttreeduck, on 11 February 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

Comanche indians ate their horses all the time no big deal, and they then made them into pants and shoes and little headbands and beads. Horses are a resource! Ride, eat and wear!

View Posttreeduck, on 11 February 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

Comanche indians ate their horses all the time no big deal, and they then made them into pants and shoes and little headbands and beads. Horses are a resource! Ride, eat and wear!

Good for the Comanches!

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:18 PM

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Aw, ****.., not donkey as well..!  :facepalm:
how awesome that we can make lasagna out of donkey....what a fascinating, modern age we live in.

I would never knowingly eat Donkey Lasagna.
I'm never eating lasagna again..!  :o

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:18 PM

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"This beef tastes like ass!"

Ass, or shit?

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