RUSHHEAD666 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 It's fun to play on the drums too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Neil was heavily influenced by The Police during the recordings of both "PW" and "MP." Neil loves STEWIE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Hello. My name is Tom (HI TOM!) Hi..... and I...... well......... Vital Signs is one of my favorite Rush songs... in fact... well........ it may be my favorite. There. I said it........... now you know my silent shame. Newbie? Hugs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCDaniels Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Hello. My name is Tom (HI TOM!) Hi..... and I...... well......... Vital Signs is one of my favorite Rush songs... in fact... well........ it may be my favorite. There. I said it........... now you know my silent shame. Newbie? Hugs! Actually - I joined 4 years ago! As you can see though, I'm not much of a poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndroidOnTheRun Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Oh man, glad to see this song getting some love. It's one of my favorites, not just out of Rush's catalog, but of all songs in general. I once brought it into a music class as my example of what I thought a perfect song was. The lyric is so masterful -- really takes advantage of what rock / pop lyric writing can do, and the techno-slang lingo perfectly matches the cyber-reggae groove. Maybe what I like most about it is that it's so quintessentially Rush. Not that this should be considered representative of their sound stylistically -- in fact, the reverse: they brought their sound to so many different styles. No one else would've made this song sound quite like they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rftag Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 For someone who views Permanent Waves as "the beginning of the end", you might figure that Vital Signs would be the last song I pick to start a thread .. When I first bought Moving Pictures, I could barely bring myself to listen to it - but out of the entire RUSH catalog, Vital Signs is THE song that has done the full 180 .. I love it, and as time goes by, it really stands out for me more and more - maybe even Top 25 ... The lyrics are perfect - not over explained - ambiguous enough to really fit the music .. Everybody got mixed feelings About the function and the form Everybody got to elevate from the norm The band was obviously going thru a change - and I am sure Neil, in particular, saw it as "evolving" Everybody got to deviate from the norm I take this as not only a deviation from the societal norm, by perhaps also from the personal "norm" - again, change within the band, the musical direction, and most likely, the relationships within the band .. The impulse is pure Sometimes our circuits get shorted By external interference Signals get crossed And the balance distorted By internal incoherence Internal incoherence - could Neil be referring to that within the band, or perhaps Terry Brown, or is this more a general take on society ala Witch Hunt ? Whatever the case, Vital Signs is a pretty fascinating little piece of music - and the band did it well ... SIGNALS get crossed - an example of a lyric that carried over - a segue if you will - to the new beginning ... Also of interest is the original Permanent Waves cover that was posted here the other day - the "vital signs" cover ... What do ya think ? I was surprised when I first heard that it was one of the first songs recorded for MP, because it is the most "Signals-like" of all the songs on MP and seems in retrospect a hint as to where they were headed musically. I think it could have fit seamlessly amongst the tracks on Signals (for better or for worse, depending on which era of Rush you prefer). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 It is the weakest song on MP, with the possible exception of Witch Hunt. But Witch Hunt didn't foretell the downfall of classic Rush, so I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. Fitting well on Signals is not an honor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. He said "opprobrium" nounharsh criticism or censure. "his films and the critical opprobrium they have generated" synonyms: vilification, abuse, vituperation, condemnation, criticism, censure,denunciation, defamation, denigration, castigation, disparagement,obloquy, derogation, slander, calumny, execration, lambasting, bad press,invective, libel, character assassination; Edited July 9, 2015 by Tombstone Mountain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. He said "opprobrium" nounharsh criticism or censure. "his films and the critical opprobrium they have generated" synonyms: vilification, abuse, vituperation, condemnation, criticism, censure,denunciation, defamation, denigration, castigation, disparagement,obloquy, derogation, slander, calumny, execration, lambasting, bad press,invective, libel, character assassination; Please, sir. I am a much more expensive whore than that, even adjusted for inflation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. He said "opprobrium" nounharsh criticism or censure. "his films and the critical opprobrium they have generated" synonyms: vilification, abuse, vituperation, condemnation, criticism, censure,denunciation, defamation, denigration, castigation, disparagement,obloquy, derogation, slander, calumny, execration, lambasting, bad press,invective, libel, character assassination; Please, sir. I am a much more expensive whore than that, even adjusted for inflation.Ahhhh...and worth every penny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. He said "opprobrium" nounharsh criticism or censure. "his films and the critical opprobrium they have generated" synonyms: vilification, abuse, vituperation, condemnation, criticism, censure,denunciation, defamation, denigration, castigation, disparagement,obloquy, derogation, slander, calumny, execration, lambasting, bad press,invective, libel, character assassination; Please, sir. I am a much more expensive whore than that, even adjusted for inflation.Ahhhh...and worth every penny That's what she said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) It is the weakest song on MP, with the possible exception of Witch Hunt. But Witch Hunt didn't foretell the downfall of classic Rush, so I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. Fitting well on Signals is not an honor. I disagree, and this coming from someone who isn't crazy about Signals, and whose interest definitely waned after Signals .. Going back to Rivendell, RUSH periodically dabbled playing outside the boundaries ... "Tears" ( which I love ), and "Madrigal" also come to mind as songs that don't fit the "classic Rush" mold Vital Signs was dark - I liked that a lot, and it was done so well - it wasn't a feeble or out of character attempt like so many of their subsequent efforts .. What I like about the lyrics so much - and what I feel separates it from some of the songs on Signals - is the ambiguity ... Signals was so literal in so many places, bordering on corny - which will ruin any vibe for me .... I don't see it as foreshadowing, I see it as great and inspired RUSH .. Sure, it was new territory, but the song shouldn't be judged based on subsequent failures or reaches ... Edited July 9, 2015 by Lucas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. He said "opprobrium" nounharsh criticism or censure. "his films and the critical opprobrium they have generated" synonyms: vilification, abuse, vituperation, condemnation, criticism, censure,denunciation, defamation, denigration, castigation, disparagement,obloquy, derogation, slander, calumny, execration, lambasting, bad press,invective, libel, character assassination; Please, sir. I am a much more expensive whore than that, even adjusted for inflation.Ahhhh...and worth every penny That's what he said.She did complain about EKG results and high pulse rates. Goes with the territory I suppose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. He said "opprobrium" nounharsh criticism or censure. "his films and the critical opprobrium they have generated" synonyms: vilification, abuse, vituperation, condemnation, criticism, censure,denunciation, defamation, denigration, castigation, disparagement,obloquy, derogation, slander, calumny, execration, lambasting, bad press,invective, libel, character assassination; Please, sir. I am a much more expensive whore than that, even adjusted for inflation.Ahhhh...and worth every penny That's what he said.She did complain about EKG results and high pulse rates. Goes with the territory I suppose. Please, no mention of Territories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 It is the weakest song on MP, with the possible exception of Witch Hunt. But Witch Hunt didn't foretell the downfall of classic Rush, so I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. Fitting well on Signals is not an honor. I disagree, and this coming from someone who isn't crazy about Signals, and whose interest definitely waned after Signals .. Going back to Rivendell, RUSH periodically dabbled playing outside the boundaries ... "Tears" ( which I love ), and "Madrigal" also come to mind as song that don't fit the "classic Rush" mold Vital Signs was dark - I liked that a lot, and it was done so well - it wasn't a feeble or out of character attempt like so many of their subsequent efforts .. What I like about the lyrics so much - and what I feel separates it from some of the songs on Signals - is the ambiguity ... Signals was so literal in so many places, bordering on corny - which will ruin any vibe for me .... I don't see it as foreshadowing, I see it as great and inspired RUSH .. Sure, it was new territory, but the song should be judged based on subsequent failures or reaches ... MOTH did I at better. It is an ok/good song hidden in crappy synths/production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 It is the weakest song on MP, with the possible exception of Witch Hunt. But Witch Hunt didn't foretell the downfall of classic Rush, so I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. Fitting well on Signals is not an honor. I disagree, and this coming from someone who isn't crazy about Signals, and whose interest definitely waned after Signals .. Going back to Rivendell, RUSH periodically dabbled playing outside the boundaries ... "Tears" ( which I love ), and "Madrigal" also come to mind as song that don't fit the "classic Rush" mold Vital Signs was dark - I liked that a lot, and it was done so well - it wasn't a feeble or out of character attempt like so many of their subsequent efforts .. What I like about the lyrics so much - and what I feel separates it from some of the songs on Signals - is the ambiguity ... Signals was so literal in so many places, bordering on corny - which will ruin any vibe for me .... I don't see it as foreshadowing, I see it as great and inspired RUSH .. Sure, it was new territory, but the song should be judged based on subsequent failures or reaches ... MOTH did I at better. It is an ok/good song hidden in crappy synths/production. apologies, but I am having one of those moments - what the heck is MOTH ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 It is the weakest song on MP, with the possible exception of Witch Hunt. But Witch Hunt didn't foretell the downfall of classic Rush, so I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. Fitting well on Signals is not an honor. I disagree, and this coming from someone who isn't crazy about Signals, and whose interest definitely waned after Signals .. Going back to Rivendell, RUSH periodically dabbled playing outside the boundaries ... "Tears" ( which I love ), and "Madrigal" also come to mind as song that don't fit the "classic Rush" mold Vital Signs was dark - I liked that a lot, and it was done so well - it wasn't a feeble or out of character attempt like so many of their subsequent efforts .. What I like about the lyrics so much - and what I feel separates it from some of the songs on Signals - is the ambiguity ... Signals was so literal in so many places, bordering on corny - which will ruin any vibe for me .... I don't see it as foreshadowing, I see it as great and inspired RUSH .. Sure, it was new territory, but the song should be judged based on subsequent failures or reaches ... MOTH did I at better. It is an ok/good song hidden in crappy synths/production. apologies, but I am having one of those moments - what the heck is MOTH ?? MOTH is a band comprising a few TRF members. But perhaps the version I'm thinking of was just JARG, a member of TRF and MOTH. It brings the guitar to the fore and rocks harder than the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 It is the weakest song on MP, with the possible exception of Witch Hunt. But Witch Hunt didn't foretell the downfall of classic Rush, so I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. Fitting well on Signals is not an honor. I disagree, and this coming from someone who isn't crazy about Signals, and whose interest definitely waned after Signals .. Going back to Rivendell, RUSH periodically dabbled playing outside the boundaries ... "Tears" ( which I love ), and "Madrigal" also come to mind as song that don't fit the "classic Rush" mold Vital Signs was dark - I liked that a lot, and it was done so well - it wasn't a feeble or out of character attempt like so many of their subsequent efforts .. What I like about the lyrics so much - and what I feel separates it from some of the songs on Signals - is the ambiguity ... Signals was so literal in so many places, bordering on corny - which will ruin any vibe for me .... I don't see it as foreshadowing, I see it as great and inspired RUSH .. Sure, it was new territory, but the song should be judged based on subsequent failures or reaches ... MOTH did I at better. It is an ok/good song hidden in crappy synths/production. Thanks. I agree that the song itself is pretty good, but suffered from a new-wave arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 It is the weakest song on MP, with the possible exception of Witch Hunt. But Witch Hunt didn't foretell the downfall of classic Rush, so I reserve more opprobrium for Vital Signs. Fitting well on Signals is not an honor. I disagree, and this coming from someone who isn't crazy about Signals, and whose interest definitely waned after Signals .. Going back to Rivendell, RUSH periodically dabbled playing outside the boundaries ... "Tears" ( which I love ), and "Madrigal" also come to mind as song that don't fit the "classic Rush" mold Vital Signs was dark - I liked that a lot, and it was done so well - it wasn't a feeble or out of character attempt like so many of their subsequent efforts .. What I like about the lyrics so much - and what I feel separates it from some of the songs on Signals - is the ambiguity ... Signals was so literal in so many places, bordering on corny - which will ruin any vibe for me .... I don't see it as foreshadowing, I see it as great and inspired RUSH .. Sure, it was new territory, but the song should be judged based on subsequent failures or reaches ... MOTH did I at better. It is an ok/good song hidden in crappy synths/production. apologies, but I am having one of those moments - what the heck is MOTH ?? Here's the MOTH version. http://youtu.be/N3D3psoMMNI MOTH is me, Prime Mover & Shaker, and one other guy, whose TRF name I don't recall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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