savagegrace26 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation? Well you have to consider that 3 of those 4 songs are good to great. Especially Armor & Sword. I think I hear it in Faithless and Bravest Face (that weird "pitch" sound right)? But where is it in Armor & Sword? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Apparently Geddy Lee owns Oscar Peterson's Mk V Mellotron.Is this true? Not that I've ever heard of Oscar Peterson's Mk V Mellotron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Well you have to consider that 3 of those 4 songs are good to great. Especially Armor & Sword.Did I have the dream, or did the dream have me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) For his part, Lee fussed over a Mellotron - an infamously unpredictable piece of equipment that he hadn't used in years. "We wanted to use orchestra-like glissandos on 'Faithless,'" explains Lee. "But I had to play the glisses by manipulating the pitch wheel on the Mellotron, which involved finding the right position on the wheel, marking it with tape, them moving the wheel down to another note, and marking that position with tape. I was all very Rube Goldberg." In addition, Raskulinecz convinced Lee to return to his equally temperamental Moog Taurus - a 13-note analog synthesizer housed in an organ-style pedalboard that had, in the past, allowed Lee to accompany Lifeson on guitar or play keyboard while holding down a bass part with his feet. But because the Taurus tuning is so finicky - Lee remembers having to retune the synth for every new part he'd play in the studio - the band had jettisoned the pedals in favor of samples for recent projects. "The Taurus pedals are on almost every song - which is something that hasn't happened since 1985's Power Windows", says Raskulinecz. "And that's one of the reasons Snakes & Arrows sounds so big and powerful - you don't hear the pedals so much as you feel them. To record them, we went direct through a Chandler Germanium preamp/DI, and pushed the preamp's Thick button to add more of a low-end rise to the sound. Then, the signal went straight to tape. There was no compression, or any other processing." Chandler's Cody Brown explains that the Thick button on the Germanium delivers a gentle frequency bump that peaks around 100Hz."When you push that button in combination with boosting the unit's Gain and Feedback controls, you can achieve a firmer low end for instruments such as the Taurus," says Brown. http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/rush/making-of-snakes-and-arrows.php Edited October 25, 2014 by savagegrace26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 And You And I and Kashmir it worked out pretty well.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) I hear it in Faithless. Armor and Sword, does it start at :25? I can't bring myself to listen to Bravest Face. Edited October 25, 2014 by Lorraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation?No... see King Crimson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation?No... see King CrimsonAhhh, so it's more the turgid lyrics than the mellotron... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation? Im really starting to miss Spaghetti Lee's much more creative "humor" now.... Edited to include quotations around "humor" Edited October 25, 2014 by savagegrace26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation?No... see King CrimsonAhhh, so it's more the turgid lyrics than the mellotron... :syrinx: another post.... :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation? Im really starting to miss Spaghetti Lee's much more creative "humor" now.... Edited to include quotations around "humor"Did they use it in The Way The Song Blows?..... ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation?No... see King CrimsonAhhh, so it's more the turgid lyrics than the mellotron... :syrinx: another post.... :) of failed turgid "comedy"" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation?No... see King CrimsonAhhh, so it's more the turgid lyrics than the mellotron... :syrinx: another post.... :) of failed turgid "comedy""I enjoy both brands of comedy which I find interesting in and of itself..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation? Im really starting to miss Spaghetti Lee's much more creative "humor" now.... Edited to include quotations around "humor"I could mimic Spaghetti Lee's humor, but: a) I enjoy posting here and don't want to be banned, andb) I graduated from fifth grade a while ago and moved on. Edited October 25, 2014 by laughedatbytime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation? Im really starting to miss Spaghetti Lee's much more creative "humor" now.... Edited to include quotations around "humor"Did they use it in The Way The Song Blows?..... ;) I thought it was The Way this Song Sucks? Does Len have a file on this too? Edited October 25, 2014 by savagegrace26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation? Im really starting to miss Spaghetti Lee's much more creative "humor" now.... Edited to include quotations around "humor"I could mimic Spaghetti Lee's humor, but: a) I enjoy posting here and don't want to be banned, andb) I graduated from fifth grade a while ago. a) just avoid talking about Neil's personal intimacyb) it's never too late to repeat it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation? Im really starting to miss Spaghetti Lee's much more creative "humor" now.... Edited to include quotations around "humor"Did they use it in The Way The Song Blows?..... ;) I thought it was The Way this Song Sucks? Does Len have a file on this too? probably. I know he has the Marv Albert one jotted down somewhere I would bet.... ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation? Well you have to consider that 3 of those 4 songs are good to great. Especially Armor & Sword. I think I hear it in Faithless and Bravest Face (that weird "pitch" sound right)? But where is it in Armor & Sword? Them songs are poor to shite. Mellotron on Armor & Dirge is that faint stringy noise you can hear in the background at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I didn't know TMMB used the mellotron. Any others? Faithless, Armor & Sword and Bravest FaceThis would make a really intriguing correlation vs causation test case...does the presence of a mellotron cause a song to suck or is it just a spurious correlation? Im really starting to miss Spaghetti Lee's much more creative "humor" now.... Edited to include quotations around "humor"I could mimic Spaghetti Lee's humor, but: a) I enjoy posting here and don't want to be banned, andb) I graduated from fifth grade a while ago. a) just avoid talking about Neil's personal intimacyb) it's never too late to repeat ita) believe me, I don't care anything about that, and b) maybe someday Alzheimer's will reduce me to being a blithering idiot, but until then, I'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Len, would you be so kind as to retrieve Spaghetti's personnel file from Defunct TRF Members storage? Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Len, would you be so kind as to retrieve Spaghetti's personnel file from Defunct TRF Members storage? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Len, would you be so kind as to retrieve Spaghetti's personnel file from Defunct TRF Members storage? Thank you. Or did you destroy it already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeson90 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Bravest Face. Brilliant. One of my best ever Rush favs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Bravest Face. Brilliant. One of my best ever Rush favs. It's the sonic equivalent of self-harming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeson90 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Lol i really dont get some of the attitude towards bravest face. Awesome track, lyrically and musically. Just don't get it. Can't even say 'oh well, people are just different' I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR HEADS :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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