Tombstone Mountain Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) Here's an update on the Horsemeat crisis—TM http://www.independe...ey-8489030.html Horsemeat found in British supermarkets 'may be donkey' http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article6149355.ece/ALTERNATES/w300/Lichfield.jpg John Lichfield John Lichfield has been The Independent's man in Paris since 1997, covering French news. Before that, he was the paper's Foreign Editor and he has also worked in Brussels and Washington. Paris Sunday 10 February 2013 http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8489051.ece/ALTERNATES/w80/v4-horsemeat.jpg A law banning horses from Romanian roads may be responsible for the surge in the fraudulent sale of horsemeat on the European beef market, a French politician said yesterday. Horse-drawn carts were a common form of transport for centuries in Romania, but hundreds of thousands of the animals are feared to have been sent to the abattoir after the change in road rules. The law, which was passed six years ago but only enforced recently, also banned carts drawn by donkeys, leading to speculation among food-industry officials in France that some of the “horse meat” which has turned up on supermarket shelves in Britain, France and Sweden may, in fact, turn out to be donkey meat. “Horses have been banned from Romanian roads and millions of animals have been sent to the slaughterhouse,” said Jose Bove, a veteran campaigner for small farmers who is now vice-president of the European Parliament agriculture committee. After a couple of days in which the horse meat affair was seen as a largely British problem, the scandal began to be taken seriously by French politicians and newspapers over the weekend. The French consumer minister, Benoît Hamon, said today that he would not hesitate to take legal action if evidence emerged that the two French companies which handled the meat had been aware of the fraud. In passing, Mr Hamon also took a swipe at the British Government. He said that London was complaining about weak European food inspection while cutting the budget for EU food-safety checks in Brussels. His warning came as France's biggest supermarket chains removed more of their own-label and Findus processed dishes from their shelves. Mr Hamon said that preliminary investigation by the French agency that combats consumer fraud had uncovered the Byzantine route taken by the “fake” beef. It came from abattoirs in Romania through a dealer in Cyprus working through another dealer in Holland to a meat plant in the south of France which sold it to a French-owned factory in Luxembourg which made it into frozen meals sold in supermarkets in 16 countries. Meanwhile, legal action over the horse meat scandal is to be mounted in Europe, Environment Secretary Owen Paterson has said as he described the contamination of beef products as a case of fraud against the public. Mr Paterson said the scandal appeared to be "extensive" across Europe but he repeated his rejection of calls for a ban on meat imports, saying that the Food Standards Agency (FSA) advice was that all products on sale are safe for consumption."This is a case of fraud and a conspiracy against the public, this is a criminal action, substituting one material for another," he told BBC Breakfast in answer to questioning about calls for a ban on meat imports. Edited February 11, 2013 by Tombstone Mountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/Donkey_from_Shrek.jpg/200px-Donkey_from_Shrek.jpg I'll bet this thrilled Shrek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangsterfurious Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 What's the big freakin' deal? Who decides which dead animal is acceptable to eat and which isn't? What is so shocking about eating a horse when you're going to eat a pig, cow, chicken, etc...?Good question...is it because a horse is really a pet? It's called "selective compassion" and varies from country to country. In the U.S. we have decided that dogs and cats are not food, they are companions. In India they won't eat cows because they are sacred. In China, well, they eat everything... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 What's the big freakin' deal? Who decides which dead animal is acceptable to eat and which isn't? What is so shocking about eating a horse when you're going to eat a pig, cow, chicken, etc...?Good question...is it because a horse is really a pet? It's called "selective compassion" and varies from country to country. In the U.S. we have decided that dogs and cats are not food, they are companions. In India they won't eat cows because they are sacred. In China, well, they eat everything...We don't have "selective compassion" in the swamp http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/73/Shrekcharacter.jpg/220px-Shrekcharacter.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condemned2bfree Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 If they consume haggis, then how shocking is horse then? Yeah, but, when you choose haggis, you KNOW what you're getting (and if you're smart, you'll choose something else... :P). When you think you're eating 100% beef and you're unwittingly eating horse....neigh... Exactly, eaten horse meat with kazakhstan friends, but we were told it was horse. Totally misleading(lies really) packaging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibleairwaves Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 "This beef tastes like ass!" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) Not sure why they'd be too worried about bute in the slaughter chain as bute is generally a drug administered to competition horses. Not to say that racehorses and jumpers don't get sent to slaughter (they do, although less often than in North America), but they're not meant for human consumption. Bute isn't the only concern either - there is also acepromazine, a common animal tranq. Europeans breed meat horses specifically, and sporthorse breeders in countries like the Netherlands send their culls to slaughter. Edited February 11, 2013 by Mara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Comanche indians ate their horses all the time no big deal, and they then made them into pants and shoes and little headbands and beads. Horses are a resource! Ride, eat and wear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Aw, ****.., not donkey as well..! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 Aw, ****.., not donkey as well..! how awesome that we can make lasagna out of donkey....what a fascinating, modern age we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 What's the big freakin' deal? Who decides which dead animal is acceptable to eat and which isn't? What is so shocking about eating a horse when you're going to eat a pig, cow, chicken, etc...? But you're a vegan, are you not? Is this one of your arguments for veganism? If are will eat a cow or a pig, then why not a horse, dog, or cat? Believe me, I totally respect your dietary choice/lifestyle. But you should understand that meat eaters can, and most certainly do, draw the line at what we will eat. In my world, for instance, certain animals are for consumption, while others are for companionship. It's not really that difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Aw, ****.., not donkey as well..! how awesome that we can make lasagna out of donkey....what a fascinating, modern age we live in. I would never knowingly eat Donkey Lasagna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Comanche indians ate their horses all the time no big deal, and they then made them into pants and shoes and little headbands and beads. Horses are a resource! Ride, eat and wear!Comanche indians ate their horses all the time no big deal, and they then made them into pants and shoes and little headbands and beads. Horses are a resource! Ride, eat and wear! Good for the Comanches! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Aw, ****.., not donkey as well..! how awesome that we can make lasagna out of donkey....what a fascinating, modern age we live in. I would never knowingly eat Donkey Lasagna.I'm never eating lasagna again..! :o 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 "This beef tastes like ass!" Ass, or shit? :laughing guy: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Aw, ****.., not donkey as well..! how awesome that we can make lasagna out of donkey....what a fascinating, modern age we live in. I would never knowingly eat Donkey Lasagna.I'm never eating lasagna again..! :o Just make it yourself. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 Anybody eaten camel? Awesome...the toes are sooooo good—addictive!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Anybody eaten camel? Awesome...the toes are sooooo good—addictive!!! Camel toe is awesome! I eat it several times a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Anybody eaten camel? Awesome...the toes are sooooo good—addictive!!! Camel toe is awesome! I eat it several times a week.cool...didn't think you were hip to 'em. I prefer the aged toes to the younger ones. A hint of pickle in the flora is just the bees knees. Lots to nibble! Have you tried the exotic toes? Some have rings in them...kinda awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Anybody eaten camel? Awesome...the toes are sooooo good—addictive!!! Camel toe is awesome! I eat it several times a week.cool...didn't think you were hip to 'em. I prefer the aged toes to the younger ones. A hint of pickle in the flora is just the bees knees. Lots to nibble! Have you tried the exotic toes? Some have rings in them...kinda awesome. Didn't think I was hip to them? Seriously? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Anybody eaten camel? Awesome...the toes are sooooo good—addictive!!! Camel toe is awesome! I eat it several times a week.cool...didn't think you were hip to 'em. I prefer the aged toes to the younger ones. A hint of pickle in the flora is just the bees knees. Lots to nibble! Have you tried the exotic toes? Some have rings in them...kinda awesome. Didn't think I was hip to them? Seriously?No I'm joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Anybody eaten camel? Awesome...the toes are sooooo good—addictive!!! Camel toe is awesome! I eat it several times a week.cool...didn't think you were hip to 'em. I prefer the aged toes to the younger ones. A hint of pickle in the flora is just the bees knees. Lots to nibble! Have you tried the exotic toes? Some have rings in them...kinda awesome. Didn't think I was hip to them? Seriously?No I'm joking. :banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/Donkey_from_Shrek.jpg/200px-Donkey_from_Shrek.jpg I'll bet this thrilled ShrekDonkey...its what's for dinner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Anybody eaten camel? Awesome...the toes are sooooo good—addictive!!! Camel toe is awesome! I eat it several times a week.cool...didn't think you were hip to 'em. I prefer the aged toes to the younger ones. A hint of pickle in the flora is just the bees knees. Lots to nibble! Have you tried the exotic toes? Some have rings in them...kinda awesome. Didn't think I was hip to them? Seriously?No I'm joking. :banana: Oh for cryin' out loud - camel's on the menu now..! What next?! :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Anybody eaten camel? Awesome...the toes are sooooo good—addictive!!! Camel toe is awesome! I eat it several times a week.cool...didn't think you were hip to 'em. I prefer the aged toes to the younger ones. A hint of pickle in the flora is just the bees knees. Lots to nibble! Have you tried the exotic toes? Some have rings in them...kinda awesome. Didn't think I was hip to them? Seriously?No I'm joking. :banana: Oh for cryin' out loud - camel's on the menu now..! What next?! :oHey Babycat men love eating camel toe's...even women have been known to go down on 'em. don't knock it till you try it! :drool: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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