Michael Schenker V. Eddie Van Halen: "INTO THE ARENA" "ON FIRE!"

[RUSHHEAD666]

Oh yeah.... there's always SO much depth in those Roth era lyrics. :D

 

She saw the look in his eyes, 'n' she knew better

He wanted her tonight, ah, and it was now or never

He made her feel so sad

Oh, whoa, whoa, Jamie's cryin'

Oh, whoa, whoa, Jamie's cryin'

Now Jamie wouldn't say, "All right", ah, she knew he'd forget her

'N' so they said goodnight, ah, oh, 'n' now he's gone forever

She want's to send him a letter, uh yeah yeah

Uh just to try to make herself feel better

It said "Gimme (gimme a call sometime")

But she knows what that'll get her

Oh, whoa, whoa, Jamie's cryin'

Oh, whoa, whoa, Jamie's cryin'

Now Jamie's been in love before (ahhh)

And she knows what love is for (ahhh)

It should mean, a little, a little more (ahhh)

Than one night stands, whoo

She want's to send him a letter, uh yeah yeah

Just to try to make herself feel better

It said "Gimme (gimme a call sometime")

But she knows what that'll get her

Oh, whoa, whoa, Jamie's cryin'

Oh, whoa, whoa, Jamie's cryin'

[Repeat til outro]

 

Are you Fukking kidding me?

Those lyrics are amazing!

Reminds me of when I was in high school.

All I wanted to do was crank real Van Halen, drink a beer and get laid!!!

 

Real fuckking rock and roll!

 

Sam The Ham Halen was all about love.

 

Young guys in the mid Eighties aren't looking for love.'

They're looking for a good time!

 

Bands like Van Halen used to write fun songs about sex drugs and rock and roll!!

 

Those days are gone!!!

 

This has turned out to be a great thread!

Fun to read!!

The great Van Halen debate.

While the servant waits, the masturbates.

 

Nothing touches the first 6 Van Halen albums.

They never get old.

 

"Light Up The Sky" is one of the best songs ever written!

 

Alex shines!!

 

The drumming alone on "Good Enough" makes me want to puke!!

 

Electronic Simmons Pads Fukk Fest!

 

Enough to give anyone a seizure.

 

You know back in the day I wore out 5150.

Now in 2014 I cant get through the first 3 songs.

I grew up from all of that Van Shitgar era.

 

Real Van Halen keeps me young at heart and soul.

Fun to play on the drums.

 

Slam Halen stuff is a bore. JMO

Edited December 27, 2014 by RUSHHEAD666

[Detonator]

Ok... I get it. Everything DLR made was "amazing" and everything S.Hagar did was crap. That Jamie's Crying is an awful song though. :D

[custom55]

top this one...

 

[custom55]

Ok... I get it. Everything DLR made was "amazing" and everything S.Hagar did was crap. That Jamie's Crying is an awful song though. :D

Oh boy... great song from a great album. The backing vocals with Michael Anthony and Eddie are signature Van Halen on this song.

 

I've seen both DLR and Hagar versions of Van Halen live and DLR is a slam dunk.

 

I've seen both Van Hager in the front row and DRL Van Halen in the nose bleed seats... Given the choice... Easy... I'll take DLR version in the nose bleeds.

 

 

 

 

 

http://youtu.be/mPP7fshTtv4

Edited January 1, 2015 by custom55

[Detonator]

top this one...

 

http://youtu.be/tYg6kRM1K2w

 

Easily. ;)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6ZEWDdLsuA

[Xanadoood]

top this one...

 

http://youtu.be/tYg6kRM1K2w

 

Easily. ;)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6ZEWDdLsuA

 

With all due respect, you're outta your f*ckin mind. Hang em high is such a unique little tune. Feelin is middle of the road meh, off of the worst Sammy era album.

[Detonator]

With all due respect: Bullshit.

 

Balance isn't a perfect album but Eddie never sounded so good and he was completely soberb for years back then... his playing in "Feelin'" is the best I've heard. That's almost a progressive song.

 

I acknowledge that this forum has a lot of guys that are in their 50's and they can't see it objectively beacause "they grew up with" the band in the early 80's. So I'm in the minority... but that's not the case with all Van Halen fans. There are a lot of Sammy fans and a LOT of people who prefer that era easily over Dave's time.

 

Diver Down, on the other hand, is the worst of DLR-era albums.

 

Hang 'Em High might be a gem of that album though.

 

Live: Right Here, Right Now is superb. Van Halen was musically and vocally in their prime during that era, imho. This absolutely kicks arse... Roth could never have sung most of these songs.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdBqQ_ZA2Os

Edited January 1, 2015 by Detonator

[Detonator]

Feelin' might have Eddie's best solo ever. If you can't appreciate this then... well... too bad.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvNPI0G2Lys

[Xanadoood]

With all due respect: Bullshit.

 

Balance isn't a perfect album but Eddie never sounded so good and he was completely soberb for years back then... his playing in "Feelin'" is the best I've heard. That's almost a progressive song.

 

I acknowledge that this forum has a lot of guys that are in their 50's and they can't see it objectively beacause "they grew up with" the band in the early 80's. So I'm in the minority... but that's not the case with all Van Halen fans. There are a lot of Sammy fans and a LOT of people who prefer that era easily over Dave's time.

 

Diver Down, on the other hand, is the worst of DLR-era albums.

 

Hang 'Em High might be a gem of that album though.

 

Live: Right Here, Right Now is superb. Van Halen was musically and vocally in their prime during that era, imho. This absolutely kicks arse... Roth could never have sung most of these songs.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdBqQ_ZA2Os

 

You are wrong on so many levels. The sober issue is moot. Eddie was more innovative and technically superior during his hard partying days than he was in 95. The live right here for unlawful f*ckin awful versions of van halen classics tour features eddie at his bloated , going through the motions self. He was a borderline parody of the style he brought to the guitar world by that point.

[Xanadoood]

Feelin' might have Eddie's best solo ever. If you can't appreciate this then... well... too bad.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvNPI0G2Lys

 

Eddie always had the best stage presence. Except during the early to mid 90s. WTF is up with that headband?

[Detonator]

With all due respect: Bullshit.

 

Balance isn't a perfect album but Eddie never sounded so good and he was completely soberb for years back then... his playing in "Feelin'" is the best I've heard. That's almost a progressive song.

 

I acknowledge that this forum has a lot of guys that are in their 50's and they can't see it objectively beacause "they grew up with" the band in the early 80's. So I'm in the minority... but that's not the case with all Van Halen fans. There are a lot of Sammy fans and a LOT of people who prefer that era easily over Dave's time.

 

Diver Down, on the other hand, is the worst of DLR-era albums.

 

Hang 'Em High might be a gem of that album though.

 

Live: Right Here, Right Now is superb. Van Halen was musically and vocally in their prime during that era, imho. This absolutely kicks arse... Roth could never have sung most of these songs.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdBqQ_ZA2Os

 

You are wrong on so many levels. The sober issue is moot. Eddie was more innovative and technically superior during his hard partying days than he was in 95. The live right here for unlawful f*ckin awful versions of van halen classics tour features eddie at his bloated , going through the motions self. He was a borderline parody of the style he brought to the guitar world by that point.

 

"You are wrong"?

 

It's called "music taste" you know... it's also an "opinion". If you can't respect that, then it's your problem and I think you should grow up.

 

Personally, I also think Roth is absolutely awful live. I can't watch those early 80's performances at all (because of him). He's absolutely terrible singer. I like the the Roth-era studio albums though... they somehow managed to "fix" his singing in the studio...

 

I'm not putting down the Roth-era. I, II (partially) and Fair Warning are very good... but 5150, f**k and Balance are better, imho.

Edited January 1, 2015 by Detonator

[Xanadoood]

With all due respect: Bullshit.

 

Balance isn't a perfect album but Eddie never sounded so good and he was completely soberb for years back then... his playing in "Feelin'" is the best I've heard. That's almost a progressive song.

 

I acknowledge that this forum has a lot of guys that are in their 50's and they can't see it objectively beacause "they grew up with" the band in the early 80's. So I'm in the minority... but that's not the case with all Van Halen fans. There are a lot of Sammy fans and a LOT of people who prefer that era easily over Dave's time.

 

Diver Down, on the other hand, is the worst of DLR-era albums.

 

Hang 'Em High might be a gem of that album though.

 

Live: Right Here, Right Now is superb. Van Halen was musically and vocally in their prime during that era, imho. This absolutely kicks arse... Roth could never have sung most of these songs.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdBqQ_ZA2Os

 

You are wrong on so many levels. The sober issue is moot. Eddie was more innovative and technically superior during his hard partying days than he was in 95. The live right here for unlawful f*ckin awful versions of van halen classics tour features eddie at his bloated , going through the motions self. He was a borderline parody of the style he brought to the guitar world by that point.

 

"You are wrong"?

 

It's called "music taste" you know... it's also an "opinion". If you can't respect that, then it's your problem and I think you should grow up.

 

Personally, I also think Roth is absolutely awful live. I can't watch those early 80's performances at all (because of him). He's absolutely terrible singer. I like the the Roth-era studio albums though... they somehow managed to "fix" his singing in the studio...

 

I'm not putting down the Roth-era. I, II (partially) and Fair Warning are very good... but 5150, f**k and Balance are better, imho.

 

Your opinion sucks . It's laughable you keep going back to that lame ass feelin tune.

 

5150 is better than the mighty Van Halen 1? How am I supposed to take you seriously?

Edited January 1, 2015 by Xanadoood

[Detonator]

With all due respect: Bullshit.

 

Balance isn't a perfect album but Eddie never sounded so good and he was completely soberb for years back then... his playing in "Feelin'" is the best I've heard. That's almost a progressive song.

 

I acknowledge that this forum has a lot of guys that are in their 50's and they can't see it objectively beacause "they grew up with" the band in the early 80's. So I'm in the minority... but that's not the case with all Van Halen fans. There are a lot of Sammy fans and a LOT of people who prefer that era easily over Dave's time.

 

Diver Down, on the other hand, is the worst of DLR-era albums.

 

Hang 'Em High might be a gem of that album though.

 

Live: Right Here, Right Now is superb. Van Halen was musically and vocally in their prime during that era, imho. This absolutely kicks arse... Roth could never have sung most of these songs.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdBqQ_ZA2Os

 

You are wrong on so many levels. The sober issue is moot. Eddie was more innovative and technically superior during his hard partying days than he was in 95. The live right here for unlawful f*ckin awful versions of van halen classics tour features eddie at his bloated , going through the motions self. He was a borderline parody of the style he brought to the guitar world by that point.

 

"You are wrong"?

 

It's called "music taste" you know... it's also an "opinion". If you can't respect that, then it's your problem and I think you should grow up.

 

Personally, I also think Roth is absolutely awful live. I can't watch those early 80's performances at all (because of him). He's absolutely terrible singer. I like the the Roth-era studio albums though... they somehow managed to "fix" his singing in the studio...

 

I'm not putting down the Roth-era. I, II (partially) and Fair Warning are very good... but 5150, f**k and Balance are better, imho.

 

Your opinion sucks . It's laughable you keep going back to that lame ass feelin tune.

 

5150 is better than the mighty Van Halen 1? How am I supposed to take you seriously?

 

You don't get it do you?

 

I can see that you are flirting with intelligence but getting the cold shoulder in return....you're not quite up to the task of grasping this....are you....but still I suppose I should have some sympathy for your handicap.....you're obviously paralyzed from the neck up.....either that or you must be the kind of person who gets a charge out of pissing on electric fences.

 

It's called "music taste". Just like old Rush vs. new Rush.

[Xanadoood]

With all due respect: Bullshit.

 

Balance isn't a perfect album but Eddie never sounded so good and he was completely soberb for years back then... his playing in "Feelin'" is the best I've heard. That's almost a progressive song.

 

I acknowledge that this forum has a lot of guys that are in their 50's and they can't see it objectively beacause "they grew up with" the band in the early 80's. So I'm in the minority... but that's not the case with all Van Halen fans. There are a lot of Sammy fans and a LOT of people who prefer that era easily over Dave's time.

 

Diver Down, on the other hand, is the worst of DLR-era albums.

 

Hang 'Em High might be a gem of that album though.

 

Live: Right Here, Right Now is superb. Van Halen was musically and vocally in their prime during that era, imho. This absolutely kicks arse... Roth could never have sung most of these songs.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdBqQ_ZA2Os

 

You are wrong on so many levels. The sober issue is moot. Eddie was more innovative and technically superior during his hard partying days than he was in 95. The live right here for unlawful f*ckin awful versions of van halen classics tour features eddie at his bloated , going through the motions self. He was a borderline parody of the style he brought to the guitar world by that point.

 

"You are wrong"?

 

It's called "music taste" you know... it's also an "opinion". If you can't respect that, then it's your problem and I think you should grow up.

 

Personally, I also think Roth is absolutely awful live. I can't watch those early 80's performances at all (because of him). He's absolutely terrible singer. I like the the Roth-era studio albums though... they somehow managed to "fix" his singing in the studio...

 

I'm not putting down the Roth-era. I, II (partially) and Fair Warning are very good... but 5150, f**k and Balance are better, imho.

 

Your opinion sucks . It's laughable you keep going back to that lame ass feelin tune.

 

5150 is better than the mighty Van Halen 1? How am I supposed to take you seriously?

 

You don't get it do you?

 

I can see that you are flirting with intelligence but getting the cold shoulder in return....you're not quite up to the task of grasping this....are you....but still I suppose I should have some sympathy for your handicap.....you're obviously paralyzed from the neck up.....either that or you must be the kind of person who gets a charge out of pissing on electric fences.

 

It's called "music taste". Just like old Rush vs. new Rush.

 

There are musical truths. And the truth is that Roth era Van Halen trounces Hagar era. It's just the way it is. Stop embarrassing yourself. Balance sucks and you're a clown if you think otherwise. f*ckin Balance is better than Fair Warning? Jesus Christ dude.

[Detonator]

"Musical truths"? For F**cks sake...!! I'm a "clown" because I like Balance?

 

Now you've offended me.. I am cut to the bone. What's next? Hit me over the head with a wet fish and call me Nancy?.

 

It seems to me you need to release some of that testosterone... you sound like a refugee from Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.

 

Too long cooped up in a log cabin........with photos of "wimmin" from the Internet tucked under yer pillow... :D

[Xanadoood]

I can't allow you to get away with your silly f*ckin opinions about VH. Hagar is the fuckiin jimmy buffet of hard rock.

[EagleMoon]

Xanadoood you sound like you're five years old. What's wrong with you? Can't you have respect for someone else's opinion? Be nice.

[Xanadoood]

Xanadoood you sound like you're five years old. What's wrong with you? Can't you have respect for someone else's opinion? Be nice.

Xanadoood you sound like you're five years old. What's wrong with you? Can't you have respect for someone else's opinion? Be nice.

 

When it comes the the classic Roth vs Hagar debate? No! No I f*ckin cant!

[bathory]

xanadood's killin em!

[Detonator]

Yeah... I felt the dagger......I got savaged by a man with cotton wool for a brain....! :D

 

When he's finished with me he's going to save the world with his Playstation.

Edited January 2, 2015 by Detonator

[Rick N. Backer]

A college buddy of mine (neither of us are in our 50s oddly enough) had a great line when 5150 came out. Describing the band's new singer he said "Sammy Hagar is the apex of mediocrity." Don't know if I agree but I've always found that pretty funny. It describes Sammy's solo work perfectly. Really good, not great.

[RUSHHEAD666]

Balance is s piece of shit.

Any song on Diver Down blows away anything Sammy did with the boys!

 

Hang Em High?? Hang Sam Halen!

 

Sammy ruined Van Halen

[EagleMoon]

Balance is s piece of shit.

Any song on Diver Down blows away anything Sammy did with the boys!

 

Hang Em High?? Hang Sam Halen!

 

Sammy ruined Van Halen

 

I think this is funny. They were like two different bands. I like them both but for different reasons. I think their songs became a lot more melodic when Sammy joined. But I also liked the DLR era as well back when he could still sing.

[RUSHHEAD666]

Balance is s piece of shit.

Any song on Diver Down blows away anything Sammy did with the boys!

 

Hang Em High?? Hang Sam Halen!

 

Sammy ruined Van Halen

 

I think this is funny. They were like two different bands. I like them both but for different reasons. I think their songs became a lot more melodic when Sammy joined. But I also liked the DLR era as well back when he could still sing.

 

Hahaha! I try to be funny! Sometimes I fail! To me they are not two different bands when 75% of Van Halen is still real Van Halen. Hence Sammy ruined the band.

 

 

Gary was even worse of course!

 

 

When David left Van Halen they should have been a three piece band with Michael on lead vocals.

Edited January 2, 2015 by RUSHHEAD666

[RUSHHEAD666]

A college buddy of mine (neither of us are in our 50s oddly enough) had a great line when 5150 came out. Describing the band's new singer he said "Sammy Hagar is the apex of mediocrity." Don't know if I agree but I've always found that pretty funny. It describes Sammy's solo work perfectly. Really good, not great.

 

Excellent post!!!!!!