Nick was right! Specially on TMMB

[losingit2k]

I'm ususally pretty positive about RUSH, but Nick was right on the money when he stated that Neil was dragging down songs in S & A. There's no better indication of this than: "The Main Monkey Business!" I was listening to a play list I created of all RUSH instrumentals and when I got to this song all I could think was "this could have been a much better song if Neil would have stepped it up a notch, two or Three". It really drags on certain spots and it really cries out for some more aggressive drumming. It could have also benefitted form some longer and more intense drum fills. This is one of the main reasons that CA is much better than S & A. Neil with the help from Nick really got back to his true form and recorded some great drum tracks.

 

Any thoughts on this?

 

Edited July 24, 2012 by losingit2k

[GeminiRising79]

QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jul 24 2012, 04:58 PM)

I'm ususally pretty positive about RUSH, but Nick was right on the money when he stated that Neil was dragging down songs in S & A. There's no better indication of this than: "The Main Monkey Business!" I was listening to a play list I created of all RUSH instrumentals and when I got to this song all I could think was "this could have been a much better song if Neil would have stepped it up a notch, two or Three". It really drags on certain spots and it really cries out for some more aggressive drumming. It could have also benefitted form some longer and more intense drum fills. This is one of the main reasons that CA is much better than S & A. Neil with the help from Nick really got back to his true form and recorded some great drum tracks. Any thoughts on this?

This is nothing new. He's been dragging the band down for over a decade.

[losingit2k]

Edited July 24, 2012 by losingit2k

[ReflectedLight]

QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jul 24 2012, 04:58 PM)

It really drags

i agree with this and also that it's painful to listen to. brings back bad memories the s & a tour and painfully hearing this.

[goose]

CA sounds like he's having much more fun...more like his work on S&A's MalNar.

[WCFIELDS]

QUOTE (GeminiRising79 @ Jul 24 2012, 04:00 PM)

QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jul 24 2012, 04:58 PM) I'm ususally pretty positive about RUSH, but Nick was right on the money when he stated that Neil was dragging down songs in S & A. There's no better indication of this than: "The Main Monkey Business!" I was listening to a play list I created of all RUSH instrumentals and when I got to this song all I could think was "this could have been a much better song if Neil would have stepped it up a notch, two or Three". It really drags on certain spots and it really cries out for some more aggressive drumming. It could have also benefitted form some longer and more intense drum fills. This is one of the main reasons that CA is much better than S & A. Neil with the help from Nick really got back to his true form and recorded some great drum tracks.  Any thoughts on this? This is nothing new. He's been dragging the band down for over a decade.

[D3strukt]

QUOTE (GeminiRising79 @ Jul 24 2012, 05:00 PM)

QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jul 24 2012, 04:58 PM) I'm ususally pretty positive about RUSH, but Nick was right on the money when he stated that Neil was dragging down songs in S & A. There's no better indication of this than: "The Main Monkey Business!" I was listening to a play list I created of all RUSH instrumentals and when I got to this song all I could think was "this could have been a much better song if Neil would have stepped it up a notch, two or Three". It really drags on certain spots and it really cries out for some more aggressive drumming. It could have also benefitted form some longer and more intense drum fills. This is one of the main reasons that CA is much better than S & A. Neil with the help from Nick really got back to his true form and recorded some great drum tracks.  Any thoughts on this? This is nothing new. He's been dragging the band down for over a decade. Even though his drumming on Vapor Trails is really, really energetic.

[losingit2k]

[presto123]

Totally disagree. I'm not a big fan of SnA but the drumming on Main Monkey is downright interesting. This is coming from a drummer.

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jul 24 2012, 02:58 PM)

I'm ususally pretty positive about RUSH, but Nick was right on the money when he stated that Neil was dragging down songs in S & A. There's no better indication of this than: "The Main Monkey Business!" I was listening to a play list I created of all RUSH instrumentals and when I got to this song all I could think was "this could have been a much better song if Neil would have stepped it up a notch, two or Three". It really drags on certain spots and it really cries out for some more aggressive drumming. It could have also benefitted form some longer and more intense drum fills. This is one of the main reasons that CA is much better than S & A. Neil with the help from Nick really got back to his true form and recorded some great drum tracks. Any thoughts on this?

Nick said Neil was dragging the songs on S&A down?

 

Regardless, I think TMMB is great, so no complaints from me!

[deathlikesilence]

QUOTE (GeminiRising79 @ Jul 24 2012, 05:00 PM)

QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jul 24 2012, 04:58 PM) I'm ususally pretty positive about RUSH, but Nick was right on the money when he stated that Neil was dragging down songs in S & A. There's no better indication of this than: "The Main Monkey Business!" I was listening to a play list I created of all RUSH instrumentals and when I got to this song all I could think was "this could have been a much better song if Neil would have stepped it up a notch, two or Three". It really drags on certain spots and it really cries out for some more aggressive drumming. It could have also benefitted form some longer and more intense drum fills. This is one of the main reasons that CA is much better than S & A. Neil with the help from Nick really got back to his true form and recorded some great drum tracks.  Any thoughts on this? This is nothing new. He's been dragging the band down for over a decade.

[Super Phil]

The Main Monkey Business is an amazing song...I love it. It's more of an 'atmospheric' instrumental than a 'jam' instrumental (like Yyz).

[ReflectedLight]

the beginning 25 secs sounded like it was going to be a great instrumental and than it started in with that new world music sound. makes me cringe.

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jul 25 2012, 07:00 AM)

the beginning 25 secs sounded like it was going to be a great instrumental and than it started in with that new world music sound.  makes me cringe.

Hadn't listened to this song in a long time, so after your post I decided to do so, and as often is the case with your posts, I'm left with:

 

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/17937498.jpg

 

[rushgoober]

oops, double post! Edited July 25, 2012 by rushgoober

[Tombstone Mountain]

[Gompers]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 25 2012, 02:48 AM)

QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jul 24 2012, 02:58 PM) I'm ususally pretty positive about RUSH, but Nick was right on the money when he stated that Neil was dragging down songs in S & A. There's no better indication of this than: "The Main Monkey Business!" I was listening to a play list I created of all RUSH instrumentals and when I got to this song all I could think was "this could have been a much better song if Neil would have stepped it up a notch, two or Three". It really drags on certain spots and it really cries out for some more aggressive drumming. It could have also benefitted form some longer and more intense drum fills. This is one of the main reasons that CA is much better than S & A. Neil with the help from Nick really got back to his true form and recorded some great drum tracks.  Any thoughts on this? Nick said Neil was dragging the songs on S&A down?   Regardless, I think TMMB is great, so no complaints from me! Yup! S&A was a very creative album. Not just a bunch of Neil flailing songs, but thought out parts, typical of Neil. Especially when he played on MalNar on just a 4 piece.   On CA, the drumming is decent although the mix does not do it justice either. Plus Nick did everything he could do to revitalize the aging drummer. It worked because Neil was more youthful. He didn't really bring anything new though. This is still OK.

[Gompers]

Edited July 25, 2012 by Gompers

[MainMonkeyBusiness]

The instrumentals are the best part of S&A...nothing dragging about them...just genius.

[rushgoober]

[ReflectedLight]

[ReflectedLight]

[losingit2k]

Maybe I didn't express myself correctly, I think TMMB is a good instrumental but it may have been a Great Instrumental if Nick would have pulled more out of Neil like he did on Mal Nar and on CA. I think the drumming lacks a tad on that one.

 

[Silas Lang]

QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jul 25 2012, 09:36 PM)

Maybe I didn't express myself correctly, I think TMMB is a good instrumental but it may have been a Great Instrumental if Nick would have pulled more out of Neil like he did on Mal Nar and on CA. I think the drumming lacks a tad on that one.

I don't agree at all that Neil was dragging the music down on S&A but his drumming on later albums is kinda disappointingly unspectacular and subdued (quite understandable though in the case of VT). It's so great to hear on the new album (still feels so good to say that ) insane and entertaining drums fills like I haven't heard since the '80s.

 

TMMB rocks like a mo-fo anyway!