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**treeduck** · June 24, 2012

**Principled Man** · June 24, 2012

Treeduck, I've worked 14 days in a row, and I'm just too damned tired to contemplate your sub-quantum-existentialist-physics-philosophy-on-steroids post....

Get back to me when I have a day off.....it'll be in July, I think..... fists crying.gif

**An Enemy Without** · June 25, 2012

I've always believed in a sort of abstract way that the observer is more important than the observation. Nice to have some confirmation.

**CantStopThinkingBig** · June 25, 2012

so God is the observer?

**treeduck** · June 25, 2012

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 24 2012, 09:44 PM)

so God is the observer?

We're all the observers, whoever is there to observe.

**treeduck** · June 26, 2012

Not many takers for this thread?

**thesweetscience** · June 26, 2012

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 26 2012, 03:25 PM)

Not many takers for this thread?

Well its a bit heavy Ducky. Interesting read but I can't really come up with anything interesting to say about it.

**treeduck** · June 26, 2012

QUOTE (thesweetscience @ Jun 26 2012, 02:34 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 26 2012, 03:25 PM)

Not many takers for this thread?

Well its a bit heavy Ducky. Interesting read but I can't really come up with anything interesting to say about it.

**CantStopThinkingBig** · June 27, 2012

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 25 2012, 12:42 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 24 2012, 09:44 PM)

so God is the observer?

We're all the observers, whoever is there to observe.

so if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to observe, does the tree really fall? Does the tree even exist?

**treeduck** · June 27, 2012

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 26 2012, 07:30 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 25 2012, 12:42 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 24 2012, 09:44 PM)

so God is the observer?

We're all the observers, whoever is there to observe.

so if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to observe, does the tree really fall? Does the tree even exist?

But as long as something observes the tree, a bird, a squirrel, a frog or a dragonfly then it's still exists. All levels of consciousness are important in the universal framework.

Think of a volume control on a stereo, you don't just want a volume control that only works on 10, you need the lowest levels too, otherwise you have no control, just volume. Well think of universal consciousness as a cosmic volume control, human consciousness is one of the higher levels and the lowest levels are the lower animals. Low volume may have limited use but it's still sound and you can still hear it, and in this scenario low level consciousness can still observe, it's still consciousness.

**Godeater2112** · June 28, 2012

This is all terribly interesting stuff, very cool and very complicated.

At the end of the day the crux of a lot of this has to do with data from experiments that I cannot reference or begin to understand. Nor do they imply what it might be like when your conscience is extinguished in one of the bazillion alternate universes...

Great read, but I can't say I'm much smarter or stoopider for having read it.

**treeduck** · June 28, 2012

QUOTE (Godeater2112 @ Jun 28 2012, 01:06 PM)

This is all terribly interesting stuff, very cool and very complicated.

At the end of the day the crux of a lot of this has to do with data from experiments that I cannot reference or begin to understand. Nor do they imply what it might be like when your conscience is extinguished in one of the bazillion alternate universes...

Great read, but I can't say I'm much smarter or stoopider for having read it.

Imagine a zillion Godeaters! There'll be no gods left!

**Godeater2112** · June 28, 2012

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 26 2012, 08:30 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 25 2012, 12:42 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 24 2012, 09:44 PM)

so God is the observer?

We're all the observers, whoever is there to observe.

so if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to observe, does the tree really fall? Does the tree even exist?

Or if people stopped reading the diarrhea spew which is 99% of your posts here, would you simply disappear in a puff of (funny) smelling smoke?

Odd I bring this up maybe in the only conversation I've seen where you weren't being an ass, but given the subject matter here it truly begged to be asked.

**Tombstone Mountain** · June 28, 2012

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 27 2012, 01:06 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 26 2012, 07:30 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 25 2012, 12:42 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 24 2012, 09:44 PM)

so God is the observer?

We're all the observers, whoever is there to observe.

so if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to observe, does the tree really fall? Does the tree even exist?

But as long as something observes the tree, a bird, a squirrel, a frog or a dragonfly then it's still exists. All levels of consciousness are important in the universal framework.

Think of a volume control on a stereo, you don't just want a volume control that only works on 10, you need the lowest levels too, otherwise you have no control, just volume. Well think of universal consciousness as a cosmic volume control, human consciousness is one of the higher levels and the lowest levels are the lower animals. Low volume may have limited use but it's still sound and you can still hear it, and in this scenario low level consciousness can still observe, it's still consciousness.

Hey professor! Just a quick question...are dolphins, whales, and elephants considered lower animals? Just axin?

**Godeater2112** · June 28, 2012

TM- figure out your issue yesterday? I forgot to check.

**treeduck** · June 28, 2012

QUOTE (Godeater2112 @ Jun 28 2012, 01:12 PM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 26 2012, 08:30 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 25 2012, 12:42 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 24 2012, 09:44 PM)

so God is the observer?

We're all the observers, whoever is there to observe.

so if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to observe, does the tree really fall? Does the tree even exist?

Or if people stopped reading the diarrhea spew which is 99% of your posts here, would you simply disappear in a puff of (funny) smelling smoke?

Odd I bring this up maybe in the only conversation I've seen where you weren't being an ass, but given the subject matter here it truly begged to be asked.

Ha ha, I didn't realise it was that guy who posted it that, I just concentrated on my response, I just thought it was some new TRfer...

**treeduck** · June 28, 2012

QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jun 28 2012, 01:14 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 27 2012, 01:06 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 26 2012, 07:30 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 25 2012, 12:42 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 24 2012, 09:44 PM)

so God is the observer?

We're all the observers, whoever is there to observe.

so if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to observe, does the tree really fall? Does the tree even exist?

But as long as something observes the tree, a bird, a squirrel, a frog or a dragonfly then it's still exists. All levels of consciousness are important in the universal framework.

Think of a volume control on a stereo, you don't just want a volume control that only works on 10, you need the lowest levels too, otherwise you have no control, just volume. Well think of universal consciousness as a cosmic volume control, human consciousness is one of the higher levels and the lowest levels are the lower animals. Low volume may have limited use but it's still sound and you can still hear it, and in this scenario low level consciousness can still observe, it's still consciousness.

Hey professor! Just a quick question...are dolphins, whales, and elephants considered lower animals? Just axin?

Well they're kind of on our level or just behind, or maybe even in front. Certainly if we're a 9 then they're an 8 on the volume switch...

**Godeater2112** · June 28, 2012

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 28 2012, 02:15 PM)

Ha ha, I didn't realise it was that guy who posted it that, I just concentrated on my response, I just thought it was some new TRfer...

Haha! Yes! We can call it Observer Perspective Syndrome. Or OPS for short.

**Tombstone Mountain** · June 28, 2012

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 28 2012, 01:16 PM)

QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jun 28 2012, 01:14 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 27 2012, 01:06 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 26 2012, 07:30 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 25 2012, 12:42 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 24 2012, 09:44 PM)

so God is the observer?

We're all the observers, whoever is there to observe.

so if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to observe, does the tree really fall? Does the tree even exist?

But as long as something observes the tree, a bird, a squirrel, a frog or a dragonfly then it's still exists. All levels of consciousness are important in the universal framework.

Think of a volume control on a stereo, you don't just want a volume control that only works on 10, you need the lowest levels too, otherwise you have no control, just volume. Well think of universal consciousness as a cosmic volume control, human consciousness is one of the higher levels and the lowest levels are the lower animals. Low volume may have limited use but it's still sound and you can still hear it, and in this scenario low level consciousness can still observe, it's still consciousness.

Hey professor! Just a quick question...are dolphins, whales, and elephants considered lower animals? Just axin?

Well they're kind of on our level or just behind, or maybe even in front. Certainly if we're a 9 then they're an 8 on the volume switch...

My two boys who are 7 and almost 4 years old...they are lower animals for sure right? I mean, one still eats his boogers...the oldest...When will he evolve o' wise one?

Edited June 28, 2012 by Tombstone Mountain

**Gompers** · June 28, 2012

Link to above article

**treeduck** · June 28, 2012

QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jun 28 2012, 01:19 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 28 2012, 01:16 PM)

QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jun 28 2012, 01:14 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 27 2012, 01:06 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 26 2012, 07:30 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 25 2012, 12:42 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 24 2012, 09:44 PM)

so God is the observer?

We're all the observers, whoever is there to observe.

so if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to observe, does the tree really fall? Does the tree even exist?

But as long as something observes the tree, a bird, a squirrel, a frog or a dragonfly then it's still exists. All levels of consciousness are important in the universal framework.

Think of a volume control on a stereo, you don't just want a volume control that only works on 10, you need the lowest levels too, otherwise you have no control, just volume. Well think of universal consciousness as a cosmic volume control, human consciousness is one of the higher levels and the lowest levels are the lower animals. Low volume may have limited use but it's still sound and you can still hear it, and in this scenario low level consciousness can still observe, it's still consciousness.

Hey professor! Just a quick question...are dolphins, whales, and elephants considered lower animals? Just axin?

Well they're kind of on our level or just behind, or maybe even in front. Certainly if we're a 9 then they're an 8 on the volume switch...

My two boys who are 7 and almost 4 years old...the are lower animals for sure right? I mean, one still eats his boogers...the oldest...When will he evolve o' wise one?

Well potentially they're a 10. With each person you have consciousness and latent consciousness, how far they reach, how far they expand into that latent area will determine a lot about them.

**treeduck** · June 28, 2012

QUOTE (Gompers @ Jun 28 2012, 01:21 PM)

Link to above article

Yeah I found it from somewhere else...

**Tombstone Mountain** · June 28, 2012

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 28 2012, 01:22 PM)

QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jun 28 2012, 01:19 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 28 2012, 01:16 PM)

QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jun 28 2012, 01:14 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 27 2012, 01:06 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 26 2012, 07:30 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 25 2012, 12:42 AM)

QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig @ Jun 24 2012, 09:44 PM)

so God is the observer?

We're all the observers, whoever is there to observe.

so if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to observe, does the tree really fall? Does the tree even exist?

But as long as something observes the tree, a bird, a squirrel, a frog or a dragonfly then it's still exists. All levels of consciousness are important in the universal framework.

Think of a volume control on a stereo, you don't just want a volume control that only works on 10, you need the lowest levels too, otherwise you have no control, just volume. Well think of universal consciousness as a cosmic volume control, human consciousness is one of the higher levels and the lowest levels are the lower animals. Low volume may have limited use but it's still sound and you can still hear it, and in this scenario low level consciousness can still observe, it's still consciousness.

Hey professor! Just a quick question...are dolphins, whales, and elephants considered lower animals? Just axin?

Well they're kind of on our level or just behind, or maybe even in front. Certainly if we're a 9 then they're an 8 on the volume switch...

My two boys who are 7 and almost 4 years old...the are lower animals for sure right? I mean, one still eats his boogers...the oldest...When will he evolve o' wise one?

Well potentially they're a 10. With each person you have consciousness and latent consciousness, how far they reach, how far they expand into that latent area will determine a lot about them.

Well that certainly clears things up a bit then...one last question. My oldest says he enjoys the crunchy ones the best...how do we adjust the volume switch on this preference. Oh, I do think 10 is a good for potential, however I admit that I am biased

**treeduck** · June 28, 2012

QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jun 28 2012, 01:25 PM)