burgeranacoke Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonictheplumber Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 holy shit dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioc Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonictheplumber Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 crazy stuff mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthshine Emmeline Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 Sorry to have started this thread. Someone go ahead and close it, I don't know how : P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokkov Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I read Anthem and the fountainHead. I loved both of them, and since Anthem is so short, I read it like once a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Rebel Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioc Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Necromancer_77 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I don't think anyone should agree with all she (or any other....philosopher) says. You should take things from everyone and find what works for you. I'm also divided. I like some of her ideas, but a lot of them are just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonictheplumber Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briremo Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Personally I happen to agree with her belief in the capability of an individual and that as a person you should strive to be the best for your own good. But I also beleive as stated before, her philosophies do not work in the real world. I agree government can be a destructive force and that good intentions ultimately CAN lead to bad results. And people should not be eviscerated for applying themselves and being productive. As a writer, I find her to be plodding and heavy handed, and as above, one cold fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioc Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (briremo @ Aug 1 2011, 07:52 PM) Personally I happen to agree with her belief in the capability of an individual and that as a person you should strive to be the best for your own good. But I also beleive as stated before, her philosophies do not work in the real world. I agree government can be a destructive force and that good intentions ultimately CAN lead to bad results. And people should not be eviscerated for applying themselves and being productive. As a writer, I find her to be plodding and heavy handed, and as above, one cold fish. However, the concept of self determination (aside from not really qualifying as a "philosophy" IMO) is not unique to Rand's rants. If that is the only nugget of wisdom in her bowl of nuts, it can be better found somewhere else. I chalk her "genius" up to: even a broken watch is right twice a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxerman001 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 QUOTE (ioc @ Aug 2 2011, 03:22 AM) QUOTE (briremo @ Aug 1 2011, 07:52 PM) Personally I happen to agree with her belief in the capability of an individual and that as a person you should strive to be the best for your own good. But I also beleive as stated before, her philosophies do not work in the real world. I agree government can be a destructive force and that good intentions ultimately CAN lead to bad results. And people should not be eviscerated for applying themselves and being productive. As a writer, I find her to be plodding and heavy handed, and as above, one cold fish. However, the concept of self determination (aside from not really qualifying as a "philosophy" IMO) is not unique to Rand's rants. If that is the only nugget of wisdom in her bowl of nuts, it can be better found somewhere else. I chalk her "genius" up to: even a broken watch is right twice a day. Precisely. I genuinely can't think of single thing she actually 'invented' as her own that qualifies as a genuine & unique philosophy. Naturally not everything she said was simplistic, childish, objectionable or ridiculous but way too much of it was for her to be taken seriously. In my view at least. (and accepting that a significant chunk of current right-wing America thinks her stuff is, um, 'awesome') ......and then there's the fact that modern behavioural science studies all over the world simply shows a lot of her assumptions and conclusions to be plain 100% wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalNarpet Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I'm reading Atlas Shrugged and I'm loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalNarpet Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 It gets a bit draggy when you're in the 4-digit page count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. P. L. Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Not to ruffle anyone's feathers, but has anybody seen the movie from Atlas Shrugged that came out this year? As for the book, I read it a while ago, it was alright until the final chapters, then BIG let down. Dagney is a fine characther anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I thought the ending was just fine. Yet it was such a shitty thing that happened to Eddie. I felt the hopelessness of his situation and the slow death that was destined for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 QUOTE (H. P. L. @ Nov 24 2011, 10:21 AM) Not to ruffle anyone's feathers, but has anybody seen the movie from Atlas Shrugged that came out this year? As for the book, I read it a while ago, it was alright until the final chapters, then BIG let down. Dagney is a fine characther anyway. I bought Part One of this movie on Blu-Ray and I loved it! It's a B Movie but I really thought it was done well for the budget. I am actually looking forward to Part II! Ayn Rand Rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 See signature... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushYesZeppelin Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I liked the Fountainhead, I loved Anthem and I've only just begun Atlas Shrugged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beherit Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 The Fountainhead's a good read, but I found it far more comedic than Rand intended (hopefully). When Howard Roark rapes Dominique....the only other rape scene more comedic is either A Clockwork Orange or Death Wish 3. Anyway, some of the themes I agree with...individuality is indeed a good thing, and sticking up for your ideals is great, but how would a Howard Roark end up in the real world? Either a Republican politician or homeless. Plus, selfishness isn't cool. I've also read Anthem, which is a semi-decent dystopian novel. Another good theme of individuality. Has nothing on the big dystopian books though, like 1984, Brave New World, etc. The Romantic Manifesto is her views on art. Well-written but I disagree with her views. As per usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beherit Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 As for her other books, I'll probably get around to reading We The Living and Atlas Shrugged at some point. Not that I agree with her views, but her books are entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 QUOTE (beherit @ May 25 2012, 07:08 PM) As for her other books, I'll probably get around to reading We The Living and Atlas Shrugged at some point. Not that I agree with her views, but her books are entertaining. I read Altas earlier this year. It was a good read. I enjoyed it much more than the Fountainhead. Who is John Galt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFireYYZ Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I read the Fountainhead last month and loved it. I don't completely agree with her views (i.e. I believe in individualism but she took it too far) but overall, it was a great book and I'm looking forward to reading Atlas Shrugged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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