Drummerrobin

My choices... 80s: Moving Pictures (with Hold Your Fire just behind) 90s: Counterparts

I voted Hemispheres!

Witch Hunt's my favourite out of these.

I'm not really too sure of the actual order seen as it's so close, but here are my top 5: Moving Pictures Hold Your Fire Permanent Waves A Farewell To Kings Power Windows

QUOTE (trenken @ Jun 30 2011, 04:10 PM)QUOTE (hughes&kettner @ Jun 30 2011, 12:55 PM) QUOTE (Drummerrobin @ Jun 29 2011, 05:50 PM) Hemispheres for me. Not everyone on Earth loves long prog epics. I work with 2 Rush fans that love Permanent Waves, MP and a couple albums after that, but hate prog music of all kinds and dont like 2112 or Hemispheres at all. Just not their thing. No biggie. It's not that I don't like 20 minute prog epics - quite the opposite in fact. It's just I've never thought of it as really being Rush's forte. They went through a big change in writing style on Permanent Waves and IMO it was for the better. For me Hemispheres isn't quite up to standard of the other songs here musically and it feels a little drawn out at times. Still a great song but I don't like it quite as much as the others.

Hemispheres for me.

2112: I heave a sigh and sadly smile

Getting pretty difficult. Was a close call between Cygnus Book I and Between The Wheels. But in the end I had to go with Cygnus.

Ohh and if I remember rightly the outros to Spindrift and Secret Touch live are bass solos, or at least centred around the bass.

Forgot about Vital Signs! Yes I think might be my favourite too. But out of the list I would go for Show Don't Tell solo. Funky stuff

There's a bass solo at the end of Witch Hunt. I think it's only on the album version.

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 23 2011, 05:19 PM)QUOTE (GeddysMullet @ Jun 23 2011, 01:04 PM) There are some Rush songs I don't like, and a couple that I absolutely can't listen to, but I don't think any of them should have been "left out." I might not like them, but somebody else does! Somebody out there loves being cruel to small animals too, but that doesn't mean if I had my druthers, that I wouldn't choose to have that inclination wiped off the face of the earth. I'm glad that people like the songs I don't, but if it were up to me they wouldn't have been permitted to be released. Thank God for you and for the others who love those songs that it's not up to me, huh? So you're saying if I like a song you don't like, it's the equivalent of me approving animal abuse? Don't quite see how that comparison stands.

I've always found the synths in Signals and GUP to be more intrusive to the music than in the two albums after. I think Countdown would have been far better off without as much synth - I'd love to hear a rework of that song to see what they could really do with it. To me the synths in Power Windows and Hold Your Fire sound like they're playing a more integral role in the music, and less of an afterthought.

QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Jun 23 2011, 03:08 PM)QUOTE (GeddysMullet @ Jun 23 2011, 04:04 PM) There are some Rush songs I don't like, and a couple that I absolutely can't listen to, but I don't think any of them should have been "left out." I might not like them, but somebody else does! Can't argue with that!

QUOTE (goose @ Jun 21 2011, 05:55 PM)Something I like about Copeland is that he, like Bonzo, knew what not to play.

QUOTE (Undead Medic @ Jun 21 2011, 02:55 PM)Am I the only one who actually likes Totem? Feel free to call me weird. No I'm with you all the way - been listening to that song quite a bit lately. That chorus is catchy as hell! I wouldn't say I would want to remove all these songs from the albums but this is simply a list of my least favourite from each album. Some of them took quite a bit of thought. Definitely an interesting topic! Rush: Need Some Love Fly By Night: Rivendell Caress Of Steel: I Think I'm Going Bald 2112: Lessons A Farewell To Kings: Madrigal Hemispheres: Circumstances Permanent Waves: Different Strings Moving Pictures: tricky as i love all the songs on this album but at a push... Tom Sawyer Signals: Losing It Grace Under Pressure: The Body Electric Power Windows: Emotion Detector Hold Your Fire: again very difficult to choose but... Second Nature Presto: Anagram (For Mongo) Roll The Bones: Heresy Counterparts: Everyday Glory Test For Echo: Carve Away The Stone Vapor Trails: How It Is Snakes And Arrows: Bravest Face

Never understood all the hate for the synths. To me it just gives the album more depth and atmosphere. I could never imagine Force Ten without the fast synth runs at 2:13 - it frikin makes the song!! For PoW and HYF I consider the synth to be just as important instrument as the guitar, even if the production on the latter is a little thin sounding at times. It's almost like they had another member! I'd love it if they started using more synths/electronics again, though it seems somewhat unlikely now. I'm not expecting a lot of agreement on this one.

Although I tend to prefer Copeland's style, I think Peart is superior as far as technique goes. Plus I could never see Copeland being able to do what Peart does (the solos, time sig changes etc), but Neil pulled of the Copeland-esque reggae/rock combo on songs from Signals and P/G pretty successfully. So I'll say Peart.

Gotta love this one, just wait for the keyboard to come in! or this or my personal favourite

The Analog Kid for me. IMO great song but not quite as great as the others.

QUOTE (Todem @ Jun 17 2011, 06:52 AM) QUOTE (Drummerrobin @ Jun 17 2011, 06:45 AM) QUOTE (New World Kid @ Jun 16 2011, 10:39 PM)After. I've answered this question like 4 times in my TRF career, lol. I usually say something like: As a drummer, I find it's very easy to create complicated parts in songs that will really make people notice you and go "wow." I think it takes significantly more creative to find a beat, rhythm, fill, etc. that isn't going to make people notice you, but the song, and still go "wow." It's one of the reasons I like Gavin Harrison so much. I feel like that's where Neil, After Gruber, is going. More for the song, not for the drummer. Yes, that's exactly how I feel. I am also a huge Gavin Harrison fan for the same reason. I think he sums up the issue very well here: It's very interesting that it generally seems to be drummers (like me) who prefer his playing after the change, which is the outcome I suspected. Maybe it's because his playing gained in subtleties (more ghost notes, more pocket, etc) that drummers can identify with but non-drummers can't so much. The main attractions to non-drummers are the more obvious traits - speed, aggression etc which are more evident in his playing before. And what's also weird is that all my favourite rush albums are before the change and obviously I can't deny that his input was a big part of it. Yet from a drumming point of view I find TFE onwards to be far more satisfying. Makes me wonder what the younger Neil would have sounded like if he'd had lessons earlier on than he did. Guess we'll never know! I am a guitarist but I also play the drums for some fun (have a V-Kit in the house). I am not one who thinks this. And I know plenty of Drummers who prefer before than now. Not even close actually. That's cool. I'm not trying to make any hard and fast rules here - it was only an observation of the thread so far. I could be completely wrong!

QUOTE (New World Kid @ Jun 16 2011, 10:39 PM)After. I've answered this question like 4 times in my TRF career, lol. I usually say something like: As a drummer, I find it's very easy to create complicated parts in songs that will really make people notice you and go "wow." I think it takes significantly more creative to find a beat, rhythm, fill, etc. that isn't going to make people notice you, but the song, and still go "wow." It's one of the reasons I like Gavin Harrison so much. I feel like that's where Neil, After Gruber, is going. More for the song, not for the drummer. Yes, that's exactly how I feel. I am also a huge Gavin Harrison fan for the same reason. I think he sums up the issue very well here: It's very interesting that it generally seems to be drummers (like me) who prefer his playing after the change, which is the outcome I suspected. Maybe it's because his playing gained in subtleties (more ghost notes, more pocket, etc) that drummers can identify with but non-drummers can't so much. The main attractions to non-drummers are the more obvious traits - speed, aggression etc which are more evident in his playing before. And what's also weird is that all my favourite rush albums are before the change and obviously I can't deny that his input was a big part of it. Yet from a drumming point of view I find TFE onwards to be far more satisfying. Makes me wonder what the younger Neil would have sounded like if he'd had lessons earlier on than he did. Guess we'll never know!

QUOTE (tangy @ Jun 16 2011, 02:05 PM)would you rather watch the solo from ATWAS or the one on Letterman the other night? You're comparing some of his best solo work from before to some of his IMO weakest from after. In this case yes I would take the Exit solo but if you were comparing it to the Rio or SandA Live solos I would take the two newer ones as they come across to me as a lot more creative and original - particularly the Snakes one.

If you listen to counterparts, you can hear his playing was already going in a more groove orientated direction, so I think it was inevitable that he would have moved away from much of the flamboyence anyway. Freddie just helped him to do it more confidently and I think the results really show on Test for Echo. I've always preferred a grooving and un-robotic approach to rock drumming, yet im also a massive rush fan which in itself is a strange paradox. But I'm glad Neil has being bringing the two together recently and because of that I see him as a much better musician now.