wilb1972

QUOTE Well if Grusin has a song by the same title is it possible your media player is going on line to find the album info and just pulling up the wrong thing? I suppose that is possible... Anyhoo -- it was just an odd thing that I was hoping some of my fellow Rush-heads could sort out for me! Thanks for indulging me!

QUOTE I must admit it is a bit strange. And I have the 97 remaster too. Gets stranger and stranger to me -- you know I wonder how they would get Grusin's name in the writing credits for a Rush album? I mean, its an interesting coincidence that both have tracks called Fly by Night? Did someone (wherever this is done) get their information confused when they were inputing it onto the disc?? Or is it a joke? Oh well. This reminds me of an incident several years back I was perusing the CDs in a WalMart and they had a classic rock compilation (the name of which eludes me at the moment) and it had Fly by Night on it. The songwriting credits were listed below each title and below FBN it had Weinrib / Peart, which I thought was rather humorous. Wonder how many fans thought, who is Weinrib?

QUOTE Which is easily the weakest live album to date. So there you go. Agreed, but the fact that they did it means something -- I would love to see a new live album (and tour) that has the following set list: Superconductor Grand Designs Ceiling Unlimited (New CA track) Second Nature Middletown Dreams (New CA track) Vapor Trail Chain Lightning Red Lenses Jacob's Ladder BU2B (New CA track) (New CA track) Cinderella Man Cut to the Chase My Favorite Headache Where's My Thing? drum solo Strip and Go Naked Caravan Hemispheres (Prelude) / 2112 (Temples of Syrinx / Grand Finale) Limelight Encore: Before and After In the Mood

QUOTE I wouldn't have a problem with that if we had a bit more diversity with the live tracks they have released. How many different versions of Closer to the Heart, Tom Sawyer, Limelight, Freewill and The Spirit of Radio do we see in all these live albums? The last time they got brave enough to leave (most) of those off a live album was A Show of Hands.

I'd be inclined to believe that they will stop touring after an R40, but stop making records? I don't think so. I think they have one at least left in them. They can make records and not tour. I think they could do another two albums before they pack it in for good.

I don't know as far as complexity is concerned- its been awhile since Neil has had to play very complex passages due to the type of material they have written in the past 20 years. The songs are more straightforward and therefore don't require that kind of playing. He may think he is more complex because he has gotten used to playing less so and has only recently started playing that way again. But overall I think he is referring to Gruber's helping him inject more feel into his playing. More groove.

Weird ... I wonder if its only on certain copies?? Mine is the 97 remaster of Fly by Night.

Thanks -- so how is he associated with Rush? I've never read anything about him and Rush being connected before. I googled him and didnt see any references to Rush.

So I put in my copy of the Fly by Night album in my computer and just realized that the song Fly by Night is credited to Dave Grusin/Geddy Lee/Neil Peart ... Who the heck is Dave Grusin???

Far Cry and The Main Monkey Business are awesome, worth the price of the album IMO. Workin' Them Angels has grown on me somewhat, mostly due to my wife's love of it. Malignant Narcissism is a fun jam, but sounds too much like YYZ part 2. The Way the Wind Blows is cool. As for the rest of the album, I really feel nonplussed about. It was the first Rush album that didn't just knock me over. I rarely listen to it. As for CA: based on the single, I would hope the new album would be an improvement. But hey, I bought S&A based solely on Far Cry and I got burned on that deal. However, I really believe that this album could be the balance the band has been trying to strike since VT -- loud and heavy, yet well produced and melodic.

For some reason The Big Wheel makes me think of John Mellencamp. And I like Neurotica too, in spite of the production.

Everytime I've seen Rush and they do Roll the Bones it seems like folks start dancing. So I go with RTB. The Big Money is kinda danceable. I agree with other choices here, particularly Superconductor.

AFTK here, but forecast looks to be rather Presto-y tomorrow. And don't forget 2112! Clear star filled night, with a giant pentagram reflecting on your pool ... yea that happens to me all the time...

On the CP Tour, they opened with Dreamline (itself an awesome opener), The Spirit of Radio (the best of the best openers) and then The Analog Kid ... Maybe they could open with something like Dreamline, and then go into The Analog Kid? BTW I too like The Enemy Within, but not as an opener, but it would be great to bring it back!

QUOTE I'm trying to figure out how Caravan and BU2B fit together in a "suite"?? These songs are very different in both music and lyrics. I don't see a theme personally. Maybe Neil is trying to do something along the lines of The Fountain of Lamneth, a man's journey through different phases of life, although now he will be able to write from a much more experienced, honest place, as he is approaching his own Bacchus Plateau, as it were. Caravan could be the overview of the whole piece, of life being like a journey, when we are young, and "can't stop thinking big". BU2B could fit into this as being how he was faced with religion and as a young man on that journey. So it would fit. Maybe the other songs deal with finding love, dealing with death, etc. Just a theory.

QUOTE parting it out across multiple DVD releases is a little sloppy, though - just release the damn thing as its own DVD (along with all the Kirshner/Passaic etc footage) and call it a day

Nice story! Interesting hearing how folks get into Rush. QUOTE It seems some people either never heard of Rush or pretended they didn't know. It's amazing I get strange looks when I mention I like Rush. Most folks around here only know Tom Sawyer or The Spirit of Radio or Working Man. And when they ask, "Are those guys still around?" and I say yes, the looks get weirder... And then there are situations like today when I went into three different retail outlets to buy the Time Machine DVD/CD, and no one had it... at all. They acted like, "Rush? Who?? That band with the crazy drummer??" Seriously, I get that. Once after the R30 dvd came out, I went into a place and they said they sold out, the day of release. Then the dude went on to tell me they only ordered 3 copies. Um, ok... But then I live in Podunkville, Alabama. If it's not country or "classic rock" (re: AC/DC, Bob Segar, the Eagles or Sknyrd), forgedaboudet! I'm sorry am I venting?

I chose Nick R by a hair over Peter Collins, simply because I feel he "gets" what the Rush sound is all about -- solid bass and drums, with Al's guitar filling up the atmospherics of a song / album. Sonically textural without sounding over-cooked. As for the poster who feels Nick R is not a solid Rush fan, I don't know the guy, can't speak for him, but he seems like the real deal to me. I remember reading an interview with Ged back when S&A came out and he mentioned Nick singing songs off of Signals, like Chemistry, that Ged couldn't believe the guy knew. Ged at least seemed to get the impression Nick is a real fan. I liked his work on S&A and that is coming from someone who thinks the album is weak. The production is great, though, just the songwriting is weak, IMO. Too bad he didn't work on VT. But Peter Collins is great too. And so is Broon. I wish he had done GuP. Peter Henderson did nothing for that album. Based on what I read in Contents Under Pressure, the guy was wishy washy and I think some great songs were left cold and flat.

Pretty cool -- after seeing the Rush doc and now reading this it seems the boys in both bands liked each other a lot and tons of fun were had by both and positive memories linger to this day. I asked my wife to buy this for me for Christmas, I have been interested in what Ace had to say. Hopefully it will be in my stocking!

I don't understand the hate for Superconductor. It's one of my favorite songs on Presto. Along with Scars, Show Don't Tell, The Pass and Presto. War Paint is sort of in the middle for me on that album. Conversely (and off topic ) I never got the love for Between the Wheels. But to each his own .. Overall I like the lyrics on Presto. One of Neil's best. Beats Test for Echo's lyrics for sure!

I once sat down and figured out the keyboard part in the middle of The Trees, just out of curiosity. On guitar, my first complete song was Panacea. Then In the End. I can muff my way through The Trees on guitar. That's about it.

QUOTE He LOVES being called Ra-Ra, and being tickled behind the left ear. He drops off into a peaceful slumber and stops him from drumming somnambulism.

QUOTE QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Oct 13 2011, 04:10 AM) QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Oct 12 2011, 11:15 PM) QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Oct 12 2011, 03:59 PM) Once, he wrestled an angry grizzly to the ground and killed it with two sharpened(used) drum sticks, he skinned the bear, wore the skin and led a sloth of grizzlies for 3 years. He was known as "RaRR-RaRRR-Arf", or "He who killed Reg". Source, please? It was written by the dead bears only son, Fozzie........"I Sh*t In The Woods: A Bear's Tale", or "How I Ate Grizzly Adams, the Sanctimonius Gobshite". I believe Neil actually killed the grizzly with a hatchet, an axe, and a saw. All things being equal, I find this quite noble of Pratt, er I mean RaRR-RaRRR-Arf ... or Ra-Ra as I like to call him.

The synths are no more cheesy than the synths on any other Rush song really. But I do find that Grand Designs stands out for me from that album. It's one of my fave songs from that album and it would be a real treat to have it back in the live set. Also from that era, bring back Turn the Page!

The line "All of us get lost in the darkness/Dreamers learn to steer by the stars/All of us do time in the gutter/Dreamers turn to look at the cars" alludes to Oscar Wilde's "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars" from his play Lady Windermere's Fan.