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I get a chuckle that someone who lists cycling as an interest does not post in the cycling thread............. I get a chuckle that you know this. :lol:

I get a chuckle that someone who lists cycling as an interest does not post in the cycling thread.............

That's an accurate description. There isn't a politics forum on the planet that is without conflict, so anyone looking for a political utopia with nothing but butterflies and unicorns and hash-laced brownies with Enya playing on the radio is not going to find it anywhere, SOCN included. I quit in that case!

Just to chime in, I've been personally insulted several times in SOCN, and about, gosh I don't know... 7 years ago?... someone on SOCN, I don't remember who, went to the trouble of finding my Facebook profile and quoting it on SOCN. I hadn't been there for a couple years, but came back to SOCN after Neil's passing and started perusing. I think I generally feel more pity when reading SOCN. It used to be white hot anger, and Reb never emotionally moved on from that reaction, but now, I honestly pity most of the regulars in SOCN. The human mind is a computer. The squishy bits, with neurons and synapses, with chemicals interacting with electricity... that's your hardware. And the pathways that are formed within the brain, the ones that control reasoning, logic, understanding, perception... that's your software. And its malleable, that's how the software rewrites itself over time. New pathways are formed through information. If you give someone information for long enough, a new pathway will be formed. Even if its bad information. Consider that being hacked. Which is why I have more pity than anger towards SOCN regulars now. Because Right Wing media saturation in this country has been omnipresent and relentless in the US for decades now. Fox News rewrote the book on the role of "news" media, other Right Wing sources joined the bandwagon, and it has been a long game over the course of 25 years to hack the software of otherwise intelligent people. Because, truly, to the average SOCN goer: you're an intelligent person. I truly believe that. I wouldn't enter the fray without that belief. But now in SOCN, the scruples of LGBT equal rights in a Supreme Court ruling are put through much more scrutiny than Donald Trump's Administration gassing peaceful protestors in order to clear a path to a church where the church staff were then forced out to make way for a photo op for the President. And you just have to ask... why? Why do we need to spend dozens of posts arguing circles around what is objectively a good thing: the Supreme Court ruling in favor of equal rights for LGBT's.... but we'll only take a cursory look at an attack on American people and property for a photo opportunity? It's not because the folks of SOCN are evil, or unintelligent. I have to conclude its this hacking phenomena I've been talking about. And to any SOCN regulars, this line of discussion won't be unfamiliar. In every conversation I have there, EVERY conversation, I will inevitably bring this topic forward in some form or another. The "brain hacking" theory I've put here is a new way of wording it, but that's because I think its going to come off as offensive and juvenile when I don't mean that. I don't mean it as an insult when I say I pity SOCN regulars, or "Conservatives" in general, and I will grant you that its an over simplification. But even if it is a problematic metaphor, its the best I have. I think its terribly sad, the condition our national discourse is in. And our nation itself. SOCN is not a productive place to get your information. SOCN is not a productive place to analyze information. SOCN is best viewed through the lens of a long term, on going socio/psychological experiment on the interaction of information dissemination and political ideology in an isolated community. Very revealing.

Yes, all true. In fact, just this morning, one of our more mild-mannered SOCN patrons killed another with a trident. I forget what set it off, something about Republicans inventing global warming to defeat abortion, I think. Pretty standard fare in there. Anyway, usually someone will choose a hand grenade or a mace-and-chain for that sort of work, but this guy somehow scored himself a trident. Might have to amend the rules a bit.

I get a chuckle from the "I hate SOCN. I've never been there, but I still hate it" type of comments.

I’ve had my opinions changed by discussions I’ve had with people on SOCN. Me, too. Yep, I have as well. In general, the regulars are pretty reasonable and reflective people. Except LABT with his irrational notion that Chicago Style casserole is pizza. He’s right!

Typical ad hominem attack. Publicly attacked in this section of the forum for a recent post that vaguely dealt with politics. Ummmm..... YOU brought up politics outside of SOCN when you know better than anyone that it isn't allowed. You once got suspended for doing that. (And you didn't do it "vaguely" -- you knew exactly what you were doing. You could have talked about the Absalom thing without mentioning Trump's family.) There are plenty of political blogs and forums out there. If you want to talk politics, go visit one of them. Seeing as you'll never again have SOCN access, you can't do it here. As for your claim of an ad hominem attack, Ford didn't attack you. He accurately described you. This thread will be moved to SOCN later today, or perhaps just closed. Just close it. It has no value in SOCN (or anywhere else).

Are we considering the effect of effects as tone? In other words, Alex is chugging along and then kicks in a little flange for effect...would those be considered two different tones, or just one tone with and without effect?

It's not just me OK, but I am asking about you.

Do you have any insight as to why this is so important to you?

It's from BTLS (I think, or maybe the other documentary), from around the MP era. http://youtu.be/XGK2uWbOH30 About 12:21

The OP is asking for a single song, which makes it a little tricky for me, but I'd go with The Necromancer.

Very nice. Comparisons to Take On Me are inevitable.

It was You Can't Fight It. Doh!

Was it 2112 Afterimage Alien Shore Anagram (For Mongo) The Analog Kid The Anarchist Animate Anthem Armor and Sword Available Light Bastille Day Before and After Beneath, Between and Behind Best I Can Between Sun & Moon Between the Wheels The Big Money The Big Wheel The Body Electric Bravado Bravest Face Broon's Bane BU2B BU2B2 By-Tor and the Snow Dog The Camera Eye Caravan Carnies Carve Away the Stone Ceiling Unlimited Chain Lightning Chemistry Cinderella Man Circumstances Clockwork Angels Closer to the Heart Cold Fire The Color of Right Countdown Cut to the Chase Cygnus X-1 Book I: The Voyage Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres Different Strings Digital Man Distant Early Warning Dog Years Double Agent Dreamline Driven Earthshine Emotion Detector The Enemy Within Entre Nous Everyday Glory A Farewell to Kings Face Up Faithless Far Cry Finding My Way Fly by Night Force Ten The Fountain of Lamneth Freewill Freeze The Garden Ghost of a Chance Ghost Rider Good News First Grand Designs Half the World Halo Effect Hand over Fist Headlong Flight Here Again Heresy High Water Hope How It Is In the End In the Mood I Think I'm Going Bald Jacob's Ladder Kid Gloves Lakeside Park The Larger Bowl La Villa Strangiato Leave That Thing Alone Lessons Limbo Lock and Key Losing It Limelight Madrigal The Main Monkey Business Making Memories Malignant Narcissism Manhattan Project Marathon Middletown Dreams Mission Mystic Rhythms Natural Science The Necromancer Need Some Love Neurotica New World Man Nobody's Hero Nocturne One Little Victory Open Secrets Out of the Cradle The Pass A Passage to Bangkok Peaceable Kingdom Presto Prime Mover Red Barchetta Red Lenses Red Sector A Red Tide Resist The Rhythm Method Rivendell Roll the Bones Scars Second Nature Secret Touch Seven Cities of Gold Show Don't Tell Something for Nothing The Speed of Love Spindrift The Spirit of Radio The Stars Look Down Stick It Out Subdivisons Superconductor Sweet Miracle Tai Shan Take a Friend Tears Test for Echo Territories Time and Motion Time Stand Still Tom Sawyer Totem The Trees Turn the Page The Twilight Zone Vapor Trail Virtuality Vital Signs War Paint The Weapon We Hold On What You're Doing Where's My Thing? Wish Them Well Witch Hunt Working Man Workin' Them Angels The Wreckers Xanadu You Bet Your Life YYZ ?

Not a coincidence so much as a common point of reference. The term predates both the song and the club.

Yup, I hear the similarities, especially when the drums come in with the beat.

I wonder what are the odds that we'll name all the songs and the last one we name is the only Mr. Lorraine likes?

Hope

YYZ

They certainly were for a very long time, but when Geddy lost his consonants and range, and when Al's left hand could no longer keep up with is right, live shows largely became a source of disappointment for me rather than joy. Probably the last 4 or 5 tours I went to, I mostly went to marvel at how Geddy's bass playing was still in top form.

I'm pretty sure the only song Alex has written lyrics on is Chemistry, (and possibly In The End) “Lessons” is an interesting song because you wrote the lyrics. How did that come about? We just thought it would be kind of cool if Ged and I wrote lyrics for at least one song. He wrote “Tears.” That was really the reason. I can’t say that I’m comfortable writing lyrics. Even later on with my solo record, Victor, it was the hardest part. It doesn’t flow for me the way I would like it to. And I’m not sure that would be different if I did it more often. You know, Ged’s “Tears” is so typical of the kind of stuff that he likes to write and do, even today. He likes those more ballad-y pieces that are emotive and sweet. I’m the dirty, heavy guy [laughs]. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rushs-alex-lifeson-on-40-years-of-2112-it-was-our-protest-album-177351/ I dont recall him writing chemistry? check rush.com Either that article is fake, or their own website is wrong From the album inner cover:

I think Ged and Al both contributed lyrical ideas/phrases.

Yup