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RIP Chadwick.

Hi there Flavia and welcome to the forum.I am a pretty new member here myself but they are a friendly bunch! The three albums you mentioned are a pretty good starting point!!! I would recommend A Farewell To Kings and Permanent Waves as suggested next listening (although there are lots of albums to choose from!) Regarding territory there is a track called 'Territories' on the Power Window album. Neil Peart's lyrics allude to China and it's impact on the world (pretty relevant today don't you think?) and the word is taken from the geographical area known as 'the new territories' which is a region of Hong Kong. Anyway, hope you enjoy your time here!

Yeah, I was surprised the Beatles were not higher ..... perhaps they are considered to lean more towards pop than rock in some peoples eyes .. i donno. Anyway, Zepp won so that should keep me from griping!!

So far so good ..... this was a nice little appetiser.

It certainly has had it's fair share of haters over the years, and yes, at the record label's behest, they mucked about with the track order to make it more commercial only to screw up any sense of a concept storyline ...... but .... I thought some of it was ok. Not great, but ok.

Shine On You Crazy Diamond for me every time ....... an astounding intro from Mr. Gilmour.

however that movie was awful .... oh yeah ........the movie ..........

I love Scoobie too!!! ........ But I love Daphne even more!!!!! .........oh yeah!!

How did Boston's debut change popular rock? Pre-Boston, you don't have AOR radio hits. Journey is a prog band, REO are unknown, Toto are studio musicians, Styx are only just starting to close in on their signature sound, Foreigner haven't released anything yet. There's an inkling of a sound like some rock bands are trying to tie the virtuosity and majesty of prog down to the hook-laden succinctness of pop and the catharsis of hard rock, but that sound doesn't have a benchmark until Tom Sholz manages to get the first Boston album on wax. After Boston, all previously mentioned bands hit their commercial golden period by playing to appeal to the same audience, and many new bands begin to show up like Survivor and Night Ranger eager for their shot at AOR glory. Also, I don't think you would have the great ballads nor the dense polished production of hair metal without AOR's (and by extent, Boston's) influence. How did Boston's debut change popular rock? Pre-Boston, you don't have AOR radio hits. Journey is a prog band, REO are unknown, Toto are studio musicians, Styx are only just starting to close in on their signature sound, Foreigner haven't released anything yet. There's an inkling of a sound like some rock bands are trying to tie the virtuosity and majesty of prog down to the hook-laden succinctness of pop and the catharsis of hard rock, but that sound doesn't have a benchmark until Tom Sholz manages to get the first Boston album on wax. After Boston, all previously mentioned bands hit their commercial golden period by playing to appeal to the same audience, and many new bands begin to show up like Survivor and Night Ranger eager for their shot at AOR glory. Also, I don't think you would have the great ballads nor the dense polished production of hair metal without AOR's (and by extent, Boston's) influence. What about Hotel California? That was released the same year as the Boston debut. What about Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours? That was out just a few months after both of those albums. Those weren’t AOR hits? Taking an obligatory moment to mention that what people called AOR in the 70s is not necessarily the same as what people call AOR today. AOR today is used more as a term to refer to really melodic, anthemic commercial bands like Journey, Foreigner, Toto etc. As for those two albums, both were landmark releases to be sure, but they were the culmination of the southern California sound rather than the articulation of the sound of AOR to come. Very related, but ultimately different to my ears. Ah ok. Tbh, I’m not totally sure what you consider AOR. It kind of reminds of Alice In Chains suddenly being called grunge a few years after they had already had success. But it’s all good. I always hated doing vivisections in music anyway I think we just love to categorise our rock music into genres ..... AOR, Arena Rock, Hard Rock, Prog Rock, Heavy Rock, Soft Rock, Folk Rock etc. etc. ........ and that is before the sub-genres!!!!All fun but personally good music is good music whatever the genre. Long live rock!

Weather-wise, those parts seem as dangerous as a feisty harvest mouse :P http://i.imgur.com/6nqRk72.jpg Looks like a storm’s a brewin’ :LMAO:

Black Sabbath. A story behind the reason .... My best mate bought the debut album (although it was 1972 and the second and third album had already been released .... but we were only 14). In those days we only had crappy record players but my mate's folks had just bought a swanky HiFi with seperate amplifier and big speakers .... the dog's doodahs of a system. So my mate, me and another friend piled into the room with the HiFi brandishing this brand new album by a band who we had only heard the hit single 'Paranoid' by and put the record on. Out came the sounds of rain so my mate cranked the volume up. Suddenly a goddam wall of guitar sound roared out of those speakers - i swear i was expecting the devil himself to materialise in the room!! As the hair at the back of my neck bristled I knew then that this was a special band ...... the rest as they say is history.

RIP Joe

A GOOD example of BAD parenting.

Weather-wise, those parts seem as dangerous as a feisty harvest mouse :P

9 weeks straight in the UK yet it peaked at no. 2 in the US, and didn't hit that peak until Freddie passed away. I don't get it. It was everywhere that winter ..... video on tv, song on radio, playing in the record shops ...... when i hear it today i am transported back to being a 17 yr old again and living with my folks. Quite emotional.

I can't really go past Bohemian Rhapsody. I have vivid memories of it's release in the winter of 1975 .... I was still at school and can remember it hitting the Christmas no. 1 spot.

Happy Birthday Goose!!! Have a honkin' good day!!

Memories like that are priceless.

Over here we complain a lot about it being cold and wet ........ but in some ways dull and boring is better than some of the extremes experienced in parts of the US and Canada.

Of the four I eliminate Pink Floyd. I think that they have the least claim, from those that are remaining, to the title of the 'ultimate' rock band.

yeah, it's milquetoast. sting had that steely dan thing where he could have a catchy pop song with a subversive meaning, way more intelligent I prefer toast with jam myself anyway. I like mine with ....... baloney, baloney, baloney ........ \* apologises and quietly leaves the room *\ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODHy4zOK_eg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYMsP1-NgSg

yeah, it's milquetoast. sting had that steely dan thing where he could have a catchy pop song with a subversive meaning, way more intelligent I prefer toast with jam myself anyway. I like mine with ....... baloney, baloney, baloney ........ \* apologises and quietly leaves the room *\ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODHy4zOK_eg

yeah, it's milquetoast. sting had that steely dan thing where he could have a catchy pop song with a subversive meaning, way more intelligent I prefer toast with jam myself anyway. I like mine with ....... baloney, baloney, baloney ........ \* apologises and quietly leaves the room *\

Thought the same thing, but there are distinct 'hits' if you look at their wikipedia discography. Funny - stairway was never released as a single, despite being perhaps their best known song. There's many iconic songs by the band that were never formally released for singles sales or radio play, which supports your idea that there are more Zep songs that are well known by rock music listeners than there are unknown. Didn't Zeppelin originally try to keep their record label from releasing singles so that the radio would just play whatever tracks (or whole album sides) they liked best and so people would just buy the whole album and give it all a listen? Wiki says they released 16 singles, 12 while they were still a band.. Juke boxes need something to play, if nothing else. Immigrant Song was the single I remember being given the most attention over the years due to it having Hey, Hey What Can I Do on the B-side. Fool in the Rain was apparently their final proper single. https://en.wikipedia...music_downloads In the UK they did enforce the no singles rule - the first single released in the UK was Whole Lotta Love in 1997.

I'm not a particularly big fan of the Police and I detest U2 so the Police song is the best of a bad lot.