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I agree with Distant Early Warning...waaay too loved to list IMO For me, I could've skipped over more liked songs such as the one tour played Presto (was that even a single?) and Territories...so now I will... 1. Cut to the Chase 2. Entre Nous 3. Good News First 4. Cinderella Man 5. Dog Years I love all 5 ...backlash be damned. :P Yes, the song Presto was a single. I remember hearing it on rock radio. I believe it was the third single released and faded pretty quickly. EDIT: Actually, I guess it was the second single and charted one position higher than The Pass. Huh, never would have guessed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presto_%28album%29#Singles

There are tons of disposable radio tunes, but The Pass isn't one of them. So in other words, that's not what it means to you. No in other words it may be more of a straight ahead, non prog song by Rush standards, but it is a well crafted song, with great lyrics and a timeless message. Countless people on youtube talk about the goosebumps they get from The Pass. Comparing this song to disposable throwaway Pop music is just wrong. Everybody has the right to their opinion, but I bet 95% would disagree about it being disposable. Slim expressed an opinion (granted, he couched that opinion as if it were fact, but that's just his schtick). The question asked was, what does the song mean to you? Slim said what it meant to him. To suggest he's wrong about that is silly. I didn't mean he was wrong. I did say right in my post everybody has their own opinion, but just that he is in the extreme minority and was hoping he would explain in more detail why this song should be lumped in with mindless, repetitive, bubble gum lyrics, disposable pop tunes.

I really like Red Lenses. Always thought it was one of the better songs on GuP. Certainly better than Between the Wheels or Afterimage, which I think are the weakest songs on that one. There are no weak songs on GUP. ;) I agree. I've always thought sonically that GUP is one of the most unique sounding records of all time. I can't think of a record by any other band that sounds like GUP. Even though it's not a concept record it almost feels like it. The fact that it sounds nothing like Signals and the fact that many Rush fans were not prepared for it and didn't embrace it right out of the gates, but came to love it later gives more credence that it is an all time unique record.

I really like Red Lenses. Always thought it was one of the better songs on GuP. Certainly better than Between the Wheels or Afterimage, which I think are the weakest songs on that one. Oh man, Between The Wheels features my favorite Lifeson solo of all time. Goosebumps on goosebumps. haha

Love to see Red Lenses getting some love. I know I'm in the minority, but I always liked it better than Kid Gloves.

I love everybody's responses, but there are a few mentioned that got PLENTY of attention from the band or radio. Distant Early Warning? That was all over MTV and radio. Presto? That was a single on radio and has been played in concert. Territories? I don't think that was a single, but it has been given plenty of love by the band live. I was more talking about those songs the were ignored by both the band and by radio/video channels. If you prefer to post not so obscure songs, go right ahead though as I love reading people's lists:)

We all know the usual suspects, but I am serious this time. haha What are the top 5 Rush songs the got over looked that could have been a high point given half a chance? Mine: Chain Lightning Afterimage Cold Fire Chemistry Open Secrets

There are tons of disposable radio tunes, but The Pass isn't one of them. So in other words, that's not what it means to you. No in other words it may be more of a straight ahead, non prog song by Rush standards, but it is a well crafted song, with great lyrics and a timeless message. Countless people on youtube talk about the goosebumps they get from The Pass. Comparing this song to disposable throwaway Pop music is just wrong. Everybody has the right to their opinion, but I bet 95% would disagree about it being disposable.

There are tons of disposable radio tunes, but The Pass isn't one of them.

I can tell by your signature you have good taste in music. King's X songs like Believe and Sunshine Rain are excellent anti-suicide songs as well.

Random thought about The Pass: I remember that when The Pass first hit radio as a single, Alannah Myles hit Black Velvet was towards the top of the charts if not number 1. Both of them are great songs.

He needed a rhyme for the part about learning to steer by the stars, which he lifted from Oscar Wilde. Guess that was supposed to be a more modern ideal? But yes it is a slightly awkward line in an otherwise cool song. I interpret that as another dual meaning. The "gutter" meaning the low point of a person's life in one instance and the "gutter" more literally when the "look at the cars" line comes in. You know....like the gutter on the side of the road. I love all the dual meanings in War Paint as well. One of my fav lyrics by Peart.

What's the Beyond The Lighted Stage thing? Is it easy to pick you out in the documentary.

It's always been about suicide to me, but I think that final verse is about Jesus and how his "sacrifice" can be seen in a different light. I think Neil purposely had a dual meaning in mind here. "Christ...what have you done" to a friend for making the ultimate sacrifice and "Christ....what have you done" by Jesus setting the example of self sacrifice. One of the things I love about Neil. He does this dual meaning thing quite often.

This might have been meant as a harmless or sarcastic or funny quote, but really this is the exact attitude that can push weak people over the edge. So many people want to pass judgement instead of empathize and sympathize. Nobody has ever walked a mile in another person's shoes. If they had they would probably have a different perspective. I will never agree that suicide is the right answer, but people that have never dealt with serious issues like severe depression or anxiety/panic attacks haven't a clue what it is like and should probably just keep their mouth shut.(not talking about you.....just in general)

What are the other songs?

The song hit me like a ton of bricks while revisiting it. Such a beautiful and haunting song. I always liked it, but after hearing of a happy go lucky guy I followed on Youtube suddenly killing himself, it really made me think. Just wondering....has the song actually saved anybody on here? Does the song remind anybody of someone who surrendered? RIP to all those souls that didn't find the strength to walk the razor's edge....

For the better or worse? I thought some of his answers in this old interview sounded kind of douchey. He's much more gracious in interviews now IMO.

I still love the fact that he comes right out and says that the Ludwigs just sounded better than the Tamas. I still have my huge Ludwig Super Classic Blue Shadow kit to this day. It's almost impossible to find a full set of these anywhere on the internet these days. Almost makes me want to sell them:)

Love that section.

Really? I mean... I'm a serious Maiden fan and I love me some early Maiden, but I will take Nicko every time. Other than Number Of The Beast, Nicko played on all my fav Maiden records as well. In my world, you can't beat Piece Of Mind, Powerslave, Seventh Son.(I do realize some prefer early Maiden just as some prefer early Rush) I do respect your opinion. Like I said there are no bests....only favorites. Clive Burr is like a simplified, more straight ahead version of McBrain IMO. I would say Clive is more like Rutsey, where McBrain is more like Peart.

Not even remotely fair if you are talking about all out technique. Those drummers paved the way and are legendary for sure, but there are players today that can do stuff that those first three players couldn't begin to do. I get it. It's a Rolling Stone list so it mainly based on classic rock influence, so those drummers deserve the respect for the time they came up in. Actual drummers will know exactly what I'm talking about. Comparing Ginger Baker to guys like Terry Bozzio and Vinnie Colauita is beyond ridiculous. Like Portnoy likes to say....there are no best drummers....only favorites. Personally, I don't find Ginger Baker and Keith Moon's playing very inspirational or musical at all. Their styles came fro a time where it was popular for drummers to just totally overplay and improvise. A lot of times to the detriment of the music IMO.

Looks can be deceiving...haha.

There is no Rush without Neil. There....I said it.

That's very much how you learn and play Rush. You simply have to listen over and over and absorb it so it's second nature. Trying to keep count, especially with the crazy time signature changes, is harder than Calculus. The beginning riff of YYZ for example. I was going to cite YYZ as one that I almost never come in on the beat, at the start. I've never even been able to pick out the rhythm that's being played on the triangle! The fact that all three of them have it mastered, and played it live for so many years...it just blows my mind. How can you not pick it out? It mimics the the guitar riff when EVERYBODY kicks into that song. It's based on morse code right?