Keith_Moon

I wish they would do a medley of Cygnus/Hemispheres with whatever vocal parts Ged can do and a lot of the cool instrumental parts. For example, they played Armageddon on the MP tour and it was great. If they did the end part of Cygnus ("every nerve torn apart") without the vocals althogther it would still be way cool - the music alone would be a huge treat.

A Desert Passage was banned on DIME recently b/c part of the show is spliced from another show apparently. I don't know exactly why because the page with all the comments/explanations disappeared when the ban went into effect.

QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Oct 5 2012, 03:51 PM)I agree. One of my five votes went to the Meters. And they were an awesome backup band, similar to the group of Motown studio musicians who went into the Hall in one of its first years. Those Motown guys were the Funk Brothers - yeah, they were awesome.

QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Oct 5 2012, 01:48 PM)My question... how in the world are The Meters (or Donna Summer, etc.) more deserving to be in the ROCK AND ROLL Hall of Fame than Kiss Yes Moody Blues Boston King Crimson etc, etc, etc BTW... I voted for Rush twice. I love how they are crushing everyone else in the poll. I don't know who your "etc." is, but you're doing the Meters a disservice by lumping them in with Donna Summer. They're not even remotely comparable. Summer was more or less the Mariah Carey of her day: a pre-packaged pop star with a few radio hits. The Meters were a real band - probably the best New Orleans funk band ever. Like Rush, they are virtuoso players and a lot of other musicians, including current RRHOF members, sing their praises. I would argue they're at least as deserving as King Crimson (sure, let 'em in I guess), and way more deserving than the Moody Blues or Boston (no way).

I know this has been beaten to death, but how does any institution perporting to be a HOF for rock not include KISS? Disclaimer: I am NOT a KISS fan. I like a few of their songs at best. I've never seen them live and don't want to. If you said to me, "KISS sucks" I would not argue. But having grown up in the 70's I can tell you that other than the Stones, Led Zeppelin and arguably The Who, there was no bigger rock band in that entire decade, at least in the US. Sold shitloads of records? Check. Played to millions of fans in the States and in other countries, often selling out huge stadiums? Check? Wrote catchy songs that a lot of people still remember? Check. Still active today? Check. Huge cultural phenomenon (mostly in the 70's)? Check. Big influence on other bands? Check. The knocks against them are that they were/are cheesey, copped from Alice Cooper and others, sold out with their many forays into merchandising, bad musicians, other than Paul and Gene a revolving door of personnel, and relied more on bombast and spectacle than actual musical talent. All those things may be true to some degree, but so what? Plenty of bands use over-the-top theatrics and sell swag. Bad players? Sid Vicious famously couldn't play at all. Multiple members? How many original members are in The Who or the Allman Brothers these days? How many keyboard players did the Dead have? (The answer is 6 for you counting at home.) Derivative? You think the Stones and Zeppelin never stole from anybody? Just because they don't fit the bill of what Jann Wenner and his circle of elitist jaggoffs think is "art" doesn't mean they shouldn't be in. How in the world can the RRHOF have GNR, Metallica and AC/DC but not KISS? For that matter, how can they have Madonna, the BeeGees and ABBA? It boggles the mind. Off my soapbox now.

QUOTE (mmm_donuts @ Oct 4 2012, 07:42 PM)I have diverse musical tastes, but I've never even heard of The Meters. Who are these guys? Did they work for the gas company? The Meters are a seminal New Orleans (mostly instrumental) funk band, mostly active in the late 60's-early 70's. There has been personal friction between some of the members so the version of the band that most often plays together these days (the Funky Meters) doesn't have all the original members, but they still sound great. Think a much funkier version of Booker T and the MGs. Art Neville was on keys and vocals and his brother Cyril was also in the band for a time in the 70's. Bassist George Porter also plays with Bill Kreutzman's 7 Walkers these days. Because so many of their songs are instrumentals it's often hard to remember them by name but if you listen to any funk at all you've probably heard them. For the casual rock fan probably their best known song is Africa, because the Red Hot Chili Peppers covered it on Freaky Styley, albiet retitield "Hollywood". The fact that they're not in the RRHOF underscores what a joke it is.

If they get in I will enjoy seeing Billy Corgan or whoever talking about how great they are, watching them jam with Deep Purple or whoever, but my stance toward the RRHOF remains "BLOW ME!"

QUOTE (tangy @ Sep 10 2012, 11:12 AM)CA is a great record but I am going with the TMT set list. secondly i have never been much of a fan with rock bands using strings live and what strings i have heard on youtube videos does not excite me that much other than the CA songs i am pretty sure i have seen all the songs in the set list, i even caught the camera eye prior to the TMT. to me the older, the rarer, the better. people who got into rush during or after the keyboard years probably fail to realize how divisive that transition was for many early fans and many fans flat out bailed. i stuck with them but the keys era discs and tours were my least favorite. not enough balls and not enough of alex ripping. keyboard years = too much geddy. not that crazy about the rest leading up to vapor trails either. the first set is a puzzle to me, i guess if you want to make your new material sound good, you play some of your weakest material right before it..... edit- i think that the set list for the snakes and arrows tour was vastly superior to either the CA or TMT tour. I liked TMT a little better than SA but otherwise you hit it on the head for me. I would also add the qualifier that I don't mind too much Geddy as long it's Geddy playing bass out front with Alex, not hiding behind a bank of keys. This tour is like a return to mid-80's tours which were only interesting due to songs like TS, TSOR, YYZ, 2112 etc., except now I've seen all those songs many more times and they're not so interesting as they once were. So it's up to the CA songs to make this tour worthwhile for me. I hope they can. Set 1 of this tour, especially the first part, is just one cringe-worthy moment after another for me.

It's a big letdown for me, because I just don't like those 80's synth songs. I saw every tour from GUP to RTB and to me the synth era is Rush's weakest. I appreciate what they're trying to do but it just doesn't do it for me. Plus if they really want to mix it up and be "daring" they'd play something other than TS, TSOR, LL, Subdivisions and Working Man. No, I don't "need" to see 2112 or Freewill again but I really hope they get back to the 70's in an R40 tour. For those who love this set list - good for you. I envy you and wish I could share your enthusiasm. I'm just hoping watching some video boots will change my opinion before the tour comes close to me.