Jaminbenb Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 Yeah...not into the whole Elefante thing... What bothers me, is that Kerry Livgren and Dave Hope left because they got into the whole religious thing...ok.... if you really dig into some of their back catalog, it all DOES have a slight religious slant to it, but nothing that just comes out and sounds like religious music...if ya know what I mean... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 Yeah, I tried to listen to the post AV stuff, but seems like a real drop... and i *really* cant get into Elefante. I do have a soft spot for Power, though. Power isn't a bad disc, really...Musicatto and Taking in the View are a nice little live combo! (I think it was 92 when I saw them, and they stuck that in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Yeah...not into the whole Elefante thing... What bothers me, is that Kerry Livgren and Dave Hope left because they got into the whole religious thing...ok.... if you really dig into some of their back catalog, it all DOES have a slight religious slant to it, but nothing that just comes out and sounds like religious music...if ya know what I mean... I think it's so funny that Dave Hope is now a minister. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 Yeah...not into the whole Elefante thing... What bothers me, is that Kerry Livgren and Dave Hope left because they got into the whole religious thing...ok.... if you really dig into some of their back catalog, it all DOES have a slight religious slant to it, but nothing that just comes out and sounds like religious music...if ya know what I mean... I think it's so funny that Dave Hope is now a minister. Yeah...wasn't he the most obnoxious one, BITD? (I mean most bass players are....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Yeah...not into the whole Elefante thing... What bothers me, is that Kerry Livgren and Dave Hope left because they got into the whole religious thing...ok.... if you really dig into some of their back catalog, it all DOES have a slight religious slant to it, but nothing that just comes out and sounds like religious music...if ya know what I mean... I think it's so funny that Dave Hope is now a minister. Yeah...wasn't he the most obnoxious one, BITD? (I mean most bass players are....) Obnoxious how? And hey! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Yeah...not into the whole Elefante thing... What bothers me, is that Kerry Livgren and Dave Hope left because they got into the whole religious thing...ok.... if you really dig into some of their back catalog, it all DOES have a slight religious slant to it, but nothing that just comes out and sounds like religious music...if ya know what I mean... I think it's so funny that Dave Hope is now a minister. I Yeah...wasn't he the most obnoxious one, BITD? (I mean most bass players are....) Obnoxious how? And hey! On the video it. Sounded like he was the one that gave people the most crap about things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Yeah...not into the whole Elefante thing... What bothers me, is that Kerry Livgren and Dave Hope left because they got into the whole religious thing...ok.... if you really dig into some of their back catalog, it all DOES have a slight religious slant to it, but nothing that just comes out and sounds like religious music...if ya know what I mean... I think it's so funny that Dave Hope is now a minister. I Yeah...wasn't he the most obnoxious one, BITD? (I mean most bass players are....) Obnoxious how? And hey! On the video it. Sounded like he was the one that gave people the most crap about things... Oh I see what you mean. I didn't get that. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Yeah...not into the whole Elefante thing... What bothers me, is that Kerry Livgren and Dave Hope left because they got into the whole religious thing...ok.... if you really dig into some of their back catalog, it all DOES have a slight religious slant to it, but nothing that just comes out and sounds like religious music...if ya know what I mean... I think it's so funny that Dave Hope is now a minister. I Yeah...wasn't he the most obnoxious one, BITD? (I mean most bass players are....) Obnoxious how? And hey! On the video it. Sounded like he was the one that gave people the most crap about things... Oh I see what you mean. I didn't get that. :) Yeah...there was a part where they said something about that....I need to give it another watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Kansas is a good band, and have been around for as long as Rush, yet Rush is playing sold out arenas and Kansas is playing small clubs and casinos. It's weird how these bands ended up in such different places, but the amount of turnover in that band is probably a big reason why. No consistency. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Decided to revisit Kansas after watching Miracles. Got into them in HS when Power (which I still like) came out, but havent since. Always knew about Left and POKR, and really think Monolith is great/underrated. But just checked out AudioVisions and really liking it -- good top to bottom. You guys have any other specific album recs? You need to check out "Two For the Show". It is such a great live album. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Might watch the DVD, but I am a bit annoyed it doesn't cover the more turbulent era of the band (post-Audio-Visions especially). Don't get me wrong..the DVD is great, as is the "bonus" disc which has some of the interviews with the guys....but I'd really be interested in seeing the years that Walsh left, and Elefante took over, then when Walsh came back and they kept things going. There's a lot more to their story! Are there even any book bio's out there? I don't recall ever reading one. Kerry Livgren wrote a book entitled, "Seeds of Change". I still have my copy but haven't read it in years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Kansas is a good band, and have been around for as long as Rush, yet Rush is playing sold out arenas and Kansas is playing small clubs and casinos. It's weird how these bands ended up in such different places, but the amount of turnover in that band is probably a big reason why. No consistency. Kansas changed personel several times two....Rush just changed drummers once and the rest is history... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicHead Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Great and educational DVD. I was fortunate enough to get in on the action early enough to obtain the bonus disc as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicHead Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Might watch the DVD, but I am a bit annoyed it doesn't cover the more turbulent era of the band (post-Audio-Visions especially). Don't get me wrong..the DVD is great, as is the "bonus" disc which has some of the interviews with the guys....but I'd really be interested in seeing the years that Walsh left, and Elefante took over, then when Walsh came back and they kept things going. There's a lot more to their story! Are there even any book bio's out there? I don't recall ever reading one. Kerry Livgren wrote a book entitled, "Seeds of Change". I still have my copy but haven't read it in years. Great book. I picked it up used from a guy for $10 some time ago. Many of the notes from the AD box set reference the tome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I finally got around to watch this on bluray.I really enjoyed it but it was way too short! No love for "Audiovisions?" WTF???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Might watch the DVD, but I am a bit annoyed it doesn't cover the more turbulent era of the band (post-Audio-Visions especially). Don't get me wrong..the DVD is great, as is the "bonus" disc which has some of the interviews with the guys....but I'd really be interested in seeing the years that Walsh left, and Elefante took over, then when Walsh came back and they kept things going. There's a lot more to their story! Are there even any book bio's out there? I don't recall ever reading one. Kerry Livgren wrote a book entitled, "Seeds of Change". I still have my copy but haven't read it in years. Great book. I picked it up used from a guy for $10 some time ago. Many of the notes from the AD box set reference the tome. Just ordered it from Barnes and Noble (had a gift card burning a hole in my drawer) It should be showing up in a day or two! thanks for letting me know that there IS a book! I finally got around to watch this on bluray.I really enjoyed it but it was way too short! No love for "Audiovisions?" WTF???? Yeah, I agree.. the whole thing just stopped TOO short of the whole story...you'd think that they'd put in what happened with Steve Walsh left, when when he came back and Kerry and Dave left for religious reasons, then the "second coming" when they released the Live at the Whisky stuff and they started getting semi-popular again...then when Robbie came back for a tour, and now that Steve "retired".... More of the story to be told... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I knew some went totally off the Deep End Christian. Never made sense to me but it is what it is.I was expecting a Steve Morse interview. Oh well. It came up totally short but I did enjoy it. The first six albums are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicHead Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 As a big fan of Livgren's AD/solo stuff and Kansas, IMO the split worked out in the long run and doubled the output of awesome art. The MooN DVD's bonus disc is the shibby too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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