treeduck Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 http://newyork.cbslo...nts-bountygate/ NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — Former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue overturned the suspensions of four current and former New Orleans Saints players in the league’s bounty investigation of the club. Tagliabue, however, found that three of the players engaged in conduct detrimental to the league. He said they participated in a performance pool that rewarded key plays — including hard tackles — that could merit fines. But he stressed that the team’s coaches were very much involved. “Unlike Saints’ broad organizational misconduct, player appeals involve sharply focused issues of alleged individual player misconduct in several different aspects,” said a portion of ruling released by the NFL. “My affirmation of Commissioner Goodell’s findings could certainly justify the issuance of fines. However, this entire case has been contaminated by the coaches and others in the Saints’ organization.” Tagliabue was appointed by his successor, Commissioner Roger Goodell, to handle a second round of player appeals to the league in connection with the Saints’ cash-for-hits program run by former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams from 2009-2011. The players initially opposed his appointment. Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma had been given a full-season suspension, while defensive end Will Smith, Cleveland linebacker Scott Fujita and free agent defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove each received shorter suspensions. Vilma was a first-round pick of the Jets in 2004 and played his first four seasons in New York. Giants quarterback Eli Manning defended the penalties initially handed down by Goodell last year. ““He’s been harsh,” Manning said in May, “to try to make a statement saying there is no place for this in the game of football.” Fujita was the only player cleared of conduct detrimental to the league by Tagliabue. None of the players sat out any games because of suspensions. They have been allowed to play while appeals are pending, though Fujita is on injured reserve and Hargrove is not with a team. Shortly before the regular season, the initial suspensions were thrown out by an appeals panel created by the league’s collective bargaining agreement. Goodell then reissued them, with some changes, and now those have been dismissed. Meanwhile, the players have challenged the NFL’s handling of the entire process in federal court, but U.S District Judge Ginger Berrigan had been waiting to see how the latest round of appeals played out before deciding whether to get involved. With the player suspensions overturned, the end of a nearly 10-month dispute over how the NFL handled an investigation that covered three seasons and gathered about 50,000 pages of documents could be near. NFL investigators found that Vilma and Smith were ring-leaders of a cash-for-hits program that rewarded injurious tackles labeled as “cart-offs” and “knockouts.” The NFL also concluded that Hargrove lied to NFL investigators to help cover up the program. Goodell also suspended Williams indefinitely, while banning Saints head coach Sean Payton for a full season. Tagliabue’s ruling comes after a new round of hearings that for the first time allowed Vilma’s attorneys and the NFL Players Association, which represents the other three players, to cross-examine key NFL witnesses in the probe. Those witnesses included Williams and former Saints assistant Mike Cerullo, who was fired after the 2009 season and whose email to the league, accusing the Saints of being “a dirty organization,” jump-started the probe. GRRRR!!!! The dirty Saints STEAL a championship from the Vikings, and they get off with a slap on the wrist! This is intolerable. You got beat! No penalities were flagged for any of the hits, they were legal! Our defense sucked in any case we won with offense! Take your loss! And you wouldn't have beaten the Colts even if you'd made the superbowl! Take your loss be a man! Take it or go back to the playpen! Get back there where you belong! :madra: :nya nya: :hi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushfanforever! Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) http://newyork.cbslo...nts-bountygate/ NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — Former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue overturned the suspensions of four current and former New Orleans Saints players in the league’s bounty investigation of the club. Tagliabue, however, found that three of the players engaged in conduct detrimental to the league. He said they participated in a performance pool that rewarded key plays — including hard tackles — that could merit fines. But he stressed that the team’s coaches were very much involved. “Unlike Saints’ broad organizational misconduct, player appeals involve sharply focused issues of alleged individual player misconduct in several different aspects,” said a portion of ruling released by the NFL. “My affirmation of Commissioner Goodell’s findings could certainly justify the issuance of fines. However, this entire case has been contaminated by the coaches and others in the Saints’ organization.” Tagliabue was appointed by his successor, Commissioner Roger Goodell, to handle a second round of player appeals to the league in connection with the Saints’ cash-for-hits program run by former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams from 2009-2011. The players initially opposed his appointment. Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma had been given a full-season suspension, while defensive end Will Smith, Cleveland linebacker Scott Fujita and free agent defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove each received shorter suspensions. Vilma was a first-round pick of the Jets in 2004 and played his first four seasons in New York. Giants quarterback Eli Manning defended the penalties initially handed down by Goodell last year. ““He’s been harsh,” Manning said in May, “to try to make a statement saying there is no place for this in the game of football.” Fujita was the only player cleared of conduct detrimental to the league by Tagliabue. None of the players sat out any games because of suspensions. They have been allowed to play while appeals are pending, though Fujita is on injured reserve and Hargrove is not with a team. Shortly before the regular season, the initial suspensions were thrown out by an appeals panel created by the league’s collective bargaining agreement. Goodell then reissued them, with some changes, and now those have been dismissed. Meanwhile, the players have challenged the NFL’s handling of the entire process in federal court, but U.S District Judge Ginger Berrigan had been waiting to see how the latest round of appeals played out before deciding whether to get involved. With the player suspensions overturned, the end of a nearly 10-month dispute over how the NFL handled an investigation that covered three seasons and gathered about 50,000 pages of documents could be near. NFL investigators found that Vilma and Smith were ring-leaders of a cash-for-hits program that rewarded injurious tackles labeled as “cart-offs” and “knockouts.” The NFL also concluded that Hargrove lied to NFL investigators to help cover up the program. Goodell also suspended Williams indefinitely, while banning Saints head coach Sean Payton for a full season. Tagliabue’s ruling comes after a new round of hearings that for the first time allowed Vilma’s attorneys and the NFL Players Association, which represents the other three players, to cross-examine key NFL witnesses in the probe. Those witnesses included Williams and former Saints assistant Mike Cerullo, who was fired after the 2009 season and whose email to the league, accusing the Saints of being “a dirty organization,” jump-started the probe. GRRRR!!!! The dirty Saints STEAL a championship from the Vikings, and they get off with a slap on the wrist! This is intolerable. You got beat! No penalities were flagged for any of the hits, they were legal! Our defense sucked in any case we won with offense! Take your loss! And you wouldn't have beaten the Colts even if you'd made the superbowl! Take your loss be a man! Take it or go back to the playpen! Get back there where you belong! :madra: :nya nya: :hi: Now, now Ducky...Calm down! Have some more :cosmo: :macallan: :cosmo: :martini: :martini: :smoke: :cheers:!! Feel Better??? :hi: :yay: :cheerleader: :banana: Edited December 12, 2012 by rushfanforever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 http://newyork.cbslo...nts-bountygate/ NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — Former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue overturned the suspensions of four current and former New Orleans Saints players in the league’s bounty investigation of the club. Tagliabue, however, found that three of the players engaged in conduct detrimental to the league. He said they participated in a performance pool that rewarded key plays — including hard tackles — that could merit fines. But he stressed that the team’s coaches were very much involved. “Unlike Saints’ broad organizational misconduct, player appeals involve sharply focused issues of alleged individual player misconduct in several different aspects,” said a portion of ruling released by the NFL. “My affirmation of Commissioner Goodell’s findings could certainly justify the issuance of fines. However, this entire case has been contaminated by the coaches and others in the Saints’ organization.” Tagliabue was appointed by his successor, Commissioner Roger Goodell, to handle a second round of player appeals to the league in connection with the Saints’ cash-for-hits program run by former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams from 2009-2011. The players initially opposed his appointment. Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma had been given a full-season suspension, while defensive end Will Smith, Cleveland linebacker Scott Fujita and free agent defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove each received shorter suspensions. Vilma was a first-round pick of the Jets in 2004 and played his first four seasons in New York. Giants quarterback Eli Manning defended the penalties initially handed down by Goodell last year. ““He’s been harsh,” Manning said in May, “to try to make a statement saying there is no place for this in the game of football.” Fujita was the only player cleared of conduct detrimental to the league by Tagliabue. None of the players sat out any games because of suspensions. They have been allowed to play while appeals are pending, though Fujita is on injured reserve and Hargrove is not with a team. Shortly before the regular season, the initial suspensions were thrown out by an appeals panel created by the league’s collective bargaining agreement. Goodell then reissued them, with some changes, and now those have been dismissed. Meanwhile, the players have challenged the NFL’s handling of the entire process in federal court, but U.S District Judge Ginger Berrigan had been waiting to see how the latest round of appeals played out before deciding whether to get involved. With the player suspensions overturned, the end of a nearly 10-month dispute over how the NFL handled an investigation that covered three seasons and gathered about 50,000 pages of documents could be near. NFL investigators found that Vilma and Smith were ring-leaders of a cash-for-hits program that rewarded injurious tackles labeled as “cart-offs” and “knockouts.” The NFL also concluded that Hargrove lied to NFL investigators to help cover up the program. Goodell also suspended Williams indefinitely, while banning Saints head coach Sean Payton for a full season. Tagliabue’s ruling comes after a new round of hearings that for the first time allowed Vilma’s attorneys and the NFL Players Association, which represents the other three players, to cross-examine key NFL witnesses in the probe. Those witnesses included Williams and former Saints assistant Mike Cerullo, who was fired after the 2009 season and whose email to the league, accusing the Saints of being “a dirty organization,” jump-started the probe. GRRRR!!!! The dirty Saints STEAL a championship from the Vikings, and they get off with a slap on the wrist! This is intolerable. You got beat! No penalities were flagged for any of the hits, they were legal! Our defense sucked in any case we won with offense! Take your loss! And you wouldn't have beaten the Colts even if you'd made the superbowl! Take your loss be a man! Take it or go back to the playpen! Get back there where you belong! :madra: :nya nya: :hi: Now, now Ducky...Calm down! Have some more :cosmo: :macallan: :cosmo: :martini: :martini: :smoke: :cheers:!! Feel Better??? :hi: :yay: :cheerleader: :banana: I'll feel better when we get our head coach back, our 2nd round draft pick and Goodhell has had a case of severe food poisoning from some cajun food he had for his superbowl breakfast in New Orleans... :pokercards: :pokerchips: :martini: :burger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushfanforever! Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 http://newyork.cbslo...nts-bountygate/ NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — Former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue overturned the suspensions of four current and former New Orleans Saints players in the league’s bounty investigation of the club. Tagliabue, however, found that three of the players engaged in conduct detrimental to the league. He said they participated in a performance pool that rewarded key plays — including hard tackles — that could merit fines. But he stressed that the team’s coaches were very much involved. “Unlike Saints’ broad organizational misconduct, player appeals involve sharply focused issues of alleged individual player misconduct in several different aspects,” said a portion of ruling released by the NFL. “My affirmation of Commissioner Goodell’s findings could certainly justify the issuance of fines. However, this entire case has been contaminated by the coaches and others in the Saints’ organization.” Tagliabue was appointed by his successor, Commissioner Roger Goodell, to handle a second round of player appeals to the league in connection with the Saints’ cash-for-hits program run by former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams from 2009-2011. The players initially opposed his appointment. Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma had been given a full-season suspension, while defensive end Will Smith, Cleveland linebacker Scott Fujita and free agent defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove each received shorter suspensions. Vilma was a first-round pick of the Jets in 2004 and played his first four seasons in New York. Giants quarterback Eli Manning defended the penalties initially handed down by Goodell last year. ““He’s been harsh,” Manning said in May, “to try to make a statement saying there is no place for this in the game of football.” Fujita was the only player cleared of conduct detrimental to the league by Tagliabue. None of the players sat out any games because of suspensions. They have been allowed to play while appeals are pending, though Fujita is on injured reserve and Hargrove is not with a team. Shortly before the regular season, the initial suspensions were thrown out by an appeals panel created by the league’s collective bargaining agreement. Goodell then reissued them, with some changes, and now those have been dismissed. Meanwhile, the players have challenged the NFL’s handling of the entire process in federal court, but U.S District Judge Ginger Berrigan had been waiting to see how the latest round of appeals played out before deciding whether to get involved. With the player suspensions overturned, the end of a nearly 10-month dispute over how the NFL handled an investigation that covered three seasons and gathered about 50,000 pages of documents could be near. NFL investigators found that Vilma and Smith were ring-leaders of a cash-for-hits program that rewarded injurious tackles labeled as “cart-offs” and “knockouts.” The NFL also concluded that Hargrove lied to NFL investigators to help cover up the program. Goodell also suspended Williams indefinitely, while banning Saints head coach Sean Payton for a full season. Tagliabue’s ruling comes after a new round of hearings that for the first time allowed Vilma’s attorneys and the NFL Players Association, which represents the other three players, to cross-examine key NFL witnesses in the probe. Those witnesses included Williams and former Saints assistant Mike Cerullo, who was fired after the 2009 season and whose email to the league, accusing the Saints of being “a dirty organization,” jump-started the probe. GRRRR!!!! The dirty Saints STEAL a championship from the Vikings, and they get off with a slap on the wrist! This is intolerable. You got beat! No penalities were flagged for any of the hits, they were legal! Our defense sucked in any case we won with offense! Take your loss! And you wouldn't have beaten the Colts even if you'd made the superbowl! Take your loss be a man! Take it or go back to the playpen! Get back there where you belong! :madra: :nya nya: :hi: Now, now Ducky...Calm down! Have some more :cosmo: :macallan: :cosmo: :martini: :martini: :smoke: :cheers:!! Feel Better??? :hi: :yay: :cheerleader: :banana: I'll feel better when we get our head coach back, our 2nd round draft pick and Goodhell has had a case of severe food poisoning from some cajun food he had for his superbowl breakfast in New Orleans... :pokercards: :pokerchips: :martini: :burger: I hear ya.....Payton can't get back fast enough!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 Aye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndseyG Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Wahoo!! :yay: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 SAINTS are looking pretty sharp today! :dweez: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndseyG Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Field goal!! :7up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 :cheerleader: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 :codger: SAINTS :codger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndseyG Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 :ebert: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 :yay: :yay: :yay: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndseyG Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 Wow it's Christmas alright, three interceptions for the SAINTS D in one game?? :banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 You're ruining your draft position... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndseyG Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Typical! I nip off for a shower and what happens? I come back to find the score is 31-0!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 You're ruining your draft position... I know, so are the Fins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 4 picks now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndseyG Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 :dweez: :dweez: :dweez: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 You're ruining your draft position... I know, so are the Fins! Yeah, I know...we'll probably win a 7th now too vs Buffalo and make the schedule harder too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 You're ruining your draft position... I know, so are the Fins! Yeah, I know...we'll probably win a 7th now too vs Buffalo and make the schedule harder too. Don't worry the Fins will build a powerhouse offense in the off-season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 Hey I notice Drew Brees is ahead of Dan Marino now in most 300 yard passing games... :smoke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 41-0 Chase Daniel! :d13: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Hey I notice Drew Brees is ahead of Dan Marino now in most 300 yard passing games... :smoke:The passing game has made a quantum leap forward, in time and in space...especially in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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