Gompers Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (ghostworks @ May 26 2011, 09:48 PM)1. Thick As A Brick - Jethro Tull - too much flute, garbage 2. Close To The Edge - Yes - genius... the definitive prog album 3. Selling England By The Pound - Genesis - top form, unyieldingly good 5. Foxtrot - Genesis - a dynamic monster 6. In The Court Of The Crimson King - King Crimson - name- dropped and over-rated 9. Red - King Crimson - good lord did they need Adrian Belew 10. Godbluff - Van Der Graaf Generator - hippies are bad enough, but drunk hippies? 14. Io Sono Nato Libero - Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - no one but members of Prog Archives and the band members themselves have ever listened to these albums 15. Nursery Cryme - Genesis - the yin to Foxtrot's yang - worthy 16. Moving Pictures - Rush - top album, not prog though 18. Fragile - Yes - a fantastic EP only 21. Ommadawn - Mike Oldfield -yeah... right 22. Larks' Tongues In Aspic - King Crimson - I'd rather listen to Tony Levin taking photographs 23. Storia Di Un Minuto - Premiata Forneria Marconi - please stop 24. Moonmadness - Camel - cutout bin 25. Crime of the Century - Supertramp - if this is to be considered prog, then Breakfast In America should be considered prog (and therefore would be the better inclusion) Agreed heavily on those points. It is one thing to be Progressive, but that is never an excuse for losing your sense of melody. The comment about 14. Io Sono Nato Libero? Friggin' hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (Oracle @ May 26 2011, 07:52 PM) 'Red' should be number 8. It's way better than Floyd's 'Animals'. Not to me. I love Animals, but also Red. That being said, Animals gets the edge for more plays on my MP3 player. I also think Animals is the most Progressive PF ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (ghostworks @ May 26 2011, 10:14 PM)QUOTE (Good @ bad,andrush,May 26 2011, 08:58 PM) Dissing van der graaf and Tul= there's a fine line between being 'creatively inspired' and 'collectively retarded' when it comes to chemical influences as applied to music-making both VDGG and Tull crossed the line (for the worse) multiple times as such, both are effortlessly dismissable I have tried repeatedly to get into VDGG. Like Camel, no can do. PFM is also one of those, but this is because I can't open my mind to foreign lyrics. What bums me out is that there is no Anekdoten (either releases Vemod or Nucleus). I prefer these guys over similar sounding Anglagard. I think they have a Crimson depth to them sonically and there is good reason. KC was an influence. They write some 'thick' music. For you guys who don't know them, here is a good example of what they do: Link and (kicks in about 1:40 minutes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 holy geriatric ward batman! Whats the newest release on that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (Gompers @ May 27 2011, 05:47 AM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ May 26 2011, 09:48 PM)1. Thick As A Brick - Jethro Tull - too much flute, garbage 2. Close To The Edge - Yes - genius... the definitive prog album 3. Selling England By The Pound - Genesis - top form, unyieldingly good 5. Foxtrot - Genesis - a dynamic monster 6. In The Court Of The Crimson King - King Crimson - name- dropped and over-rated 9. Red - King Crimson - good lord did they need Adrian Belew 10. Godbluff - Van Der Graaf Generator - hippies are bad enough, but drunk hippies? 14. Io Sono Nato Libero - Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - no one but members of Prog Archives and the band members themselves have ever listened to these albums 15. Nursery Cryme - Genesis - the yin to Foxtrot's yang - worthy 16. Moving Pictures - Rush - top album, not prog though 18. Fragile - Yes - a fantastic EP only 21. Ommadawn - Mike Oldfield -yeah... right 22. Larks' Tongues In Aspic - King Crimson - I'd rather listen to Tony Levin taking photographs 23. Storia Di Un Minuto - Premiata Forneria Marconi - please stop 24. Moonmadness - Camel - cutout bin 25. Crime of the Century - Supertramp - if this is to be considered prog, then Breakfast In America should be considered prog (and therefore would be the better inclusion) Agreed heavily on those points. It is one thing to be Progressive, but that is never an excuse for losing your sense of melody. The comment about 14. Io Sono Nato Libero? Friggin' hilarious! In general i agree too. #14 is ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (treeduck @ May 26 2011, 09:23 PM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ May 26 2011, 09:14 PM) QUOTE (Good @ bad,andrush,May 26 2011, 08:58 PM) Dissing van der graaf and Tul= there's a fine line between being 'creatively inspired' and 'collectively retarded' when it comes to chemical influences as applied to music-making both VDGG and Tull crossed the line (for the worse) multiple times as such, both are effortlessly dismissable Dismissable by whom? You? And who are you exactly? why, I'm me! I'm sure no one is genuinely upset by my one-liners (that's all they are) a brusque but (personally) honest review of that Top 25 is truly all that it is now > to those who would assume my reviews belie youth? I was already in high school when p/g was released, so there's no traction there > to those who would assume my reviews belie ignorance of the genre? piffle - my 1940's to 1980's collection of prog/indie/psych/fusion/jazz/electronic LP's alone wouldn't fit in an empty VW bus > and to those who largely agree with my assessments? well, obviously you have impeccable taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good,bad,andrush Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (ghostworks @ May 27 2011, 10:19 AM) QUOTE (treeduck @ May 26 2011, 09:23 PM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ May 26 2011, 09:14 PM) QUOTE (Good @ bad,andrush,May 26 2011, 08:58 PM) Dissing van der graaf and Tul= there's a fine line between being 'creatively inspired' and 'collectively retarded' when it comes to chemical influences as applied to music-making both VDGG and Tull crossed the line (for the worse) multiple times as such, both are effortlessly dismissable Dismissable by whom? You? And who are you exactly? why, I'm me! I'm sure no one is genuinely upset by my one-liners (that's all they are) a brusque but (personally) honest review of that Top 25 is truly all that it is now > to those who would assume my reviews belie youth? I was already in high school when p/g was released, so there's no traction there > to those who would assume my reviews belie ignorance of the genre? piffle - my 1940's to 1980's collection of prog/indie/psych/fusion/jazz/electronic LP's alone wouldn't fit in an empty VW bus > and to those who largely agree with my assessments? well, obviously you have impeccable taste Actually, maybe you just have bad taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ May 27 2011, 05:42 AM) Are Supertramp prog......strictly speaking, no. They're still bloody(well right) marvellous though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (tangy @ May 27 2011, 09:18 AM) holy geriatric ward batman! Whats the newest release on that list? checked the link out. Only two the top 25 are from the 80's and beyond and most are from the early 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 The only recent(ish) release is Anglagard's Hybris....surprised Misplaced Childhood or Script didn't make the list, or Scenes From A Memory(without wanting to open up the "IS PROG METAL PROG" scab or anything........) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) Edited May 27, 2011 by ghostworks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (Good,bad,andrush @ May 27 2011, 10:30 AM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ May 27 2011, 10:19 AM) QUOTE (treeduck @ May 26 2011, 09:23 PM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ May 26 2011, 09:14 PM) QUOTE (Good @ bad,andrush,May 26 2011, 08:58 PM) Dissing van der graaf and Tul= there's a fine line between being 'creatively inspired' and 'collectively retarded' when it comes to chemical influences as applied to music-making both VDGG and Tull crossed the line (for the worse) multiple times as such, both are effortlessly dismissable Dismissable by whom? You? And who are you exactly? why, I'm me! I'm sure no one is genuinely upset by my one-liners (that's all they are) a brusque but (personally) honest review of that Top 25 is truly all that it is now > to those who would assume my reviews belie youth? I was already in high school when p/g was released, so there's no traction there > to those who would assume my reviews belie ignorance of the genre? piffle - my 1940's to 1980's collection of prog/indie/psych/fusion/jazz/electronic LP's alone wouldn't fit in an empty VW bus > and to those who largely agree with my assessments? well, obviously you have impeccable taste Actually, maybe you just have bad taste friend, if you think it's in 'bad taste' to herald these albums: Close To The Edge - Yes Selling England By The Pound - Genesis Foxtrot - Genesis Birds of Fire - Mahavishnu Orchestra - you've unequivocally proved you have none ...but don't despair - enlightenment awaits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ May 27 2011, 12:28 PM) The only recent(ish) release is Anglagard's Hybris....surprised Misplaced Childhood or Script didn't make the list, or Scenes From A Memory(without wanting to open up the "IS PROG METAL PROG" scab or anything........) Yeah, it seems like that at least one disc from say Porcupine Tree, Spocks Beard or Dream Theater would of made the list. Something more modern. I personally think Spocks Beard and PT rank up there with the best prog ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good,bad,andrush Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (ghostworks @ May 27 2011, 12:52 PM) QUOTE (Good @ bad,andrush,May 27 2011, 10:30 AM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ May 27 2011, 10:19 AM) QUOTE (treeduck @ May 26 2011, 09:23 PM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ May 26 2011, 09:14 PM) QUOTE (Good @ bad,andrush,May 26 2011, 08:58 PM) Dissing van der graaf and Tul= there's a fine line between being 'creatively inspired' and 'collectively retarded' when it comes to chemical influences as applied to music-making both VDGG and Tull crossed the line (for the worse) multiple times as such, both are effortlessly dismissable Dismissable by whom? You? And who are you exactly? why, I'm me! I'm sure no one is genuinely upset by my one-liners (that's all they are) a brusque but (personally) honest review of that Top 25 is truly all that it is now > to those who would assume my reviews belie youth? I was already in high school when p/g was released, so there's no traction there > to those who would assume my reviews belie ignorance of the genre? piffle - my 1940's to 1980's collection of prog/indie/psych/fusion/jazz/electronic LP's alone wouldn't fit in an empty VW bus > and to those who largely agree with my assessments? well, obviously you have impeccable taste Actually, maybe you just have bad taste friend, if you think it's in 'bad taste' to herald these albums: Close To The Edge - Yes Selling England By The Pound - Genesis Foxtrot - Genesis Birds of Fire - Mahavishnu Orchestra - you've unequivocally proved you have none ...but don't despair - enlightenment awaits! I like those but you don't like Godbluff or Pawn Hearts? Or H to He or Still Life? It seems you're afraid to open your mind a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Test4VitalSigns Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 This is PopMatters.com'd top 25 Prog rock songs of all time....I don't really take any list seriously as it is all subjective but it is cool that there are 3 Rush tunes on this list and several other favs... http://www.popmatters.com/pm/feature/14154...-of-all-time/P0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu93 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 QUOTE (Good @ bad,andrush,May 27 2011, 02:01 PM)I like those but you don't like Godbluff or Pawn Hearts? Or H to He or Still Life? It seems you're afraid to open your mind a little Considering that he's been listening to that album longer than you've been on this planet, I think he's had time to be "enlightened". It all comes down to personal tastes, and you two don't agree. Don't lose any sleep over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu93 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 QUOTE (tangy @ May 27 2011, 10:18 AM)holy geriatric ward batman! Whats the newest release on that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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