Freeze-Frame

I just want to hear them play anything from the four first albums. C'mon? When was the last time anyone heard a song song from Fly By Night or CoS live?

I don't believe in fairy tails either. I don't know why you thought that I did, but whatever. (If you're confused, I'm stating that my religion isn't full of fairy tails like you think it is)

so then i guess it takes one to know one huh "TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE HUHUEHUEHUEHUE" My, what a mature sounding post. Are you even trying or do you want to sound like an 11 year old boy at recess? Your opinion on this matter has been [ ] Validated [X] discarded But no that was bad. Seriously, improve your arguing skills or go back to r/atheism. I know you are but what am I? At least I dont shape my world view on a 2000 year old myth You're American, you don't have a world view. Spoken like a true Brit takin' the piss. Sorry big guy but not all of us Yanks fall for those reindeer games.Nice one though. And good luck fishing for the sensitive ones. I couldn't care less about nationalism. So I really don't care about this one. :laughing guy:

you didnt piss me off, I just think your kinda lame. But either you'll grow out of it or you will prob get worse about it. Saying you easily piss people off mostly because of your personal beliefs leads me to believe you are probably rather vocal about it. Maybe even looking for reasons to proclaim them publicly. That comes with the expectation of response from people, some good some bad. Hating that about yourself is a common phenomenon in religious culture, self loathing. Wanting what your told not to do. It often leads to a life of cyclical deviant behavior and personal shame. With any luck you'll most likely wind up just passive aggressively oppressing or suppressing yourself and people around you by using your religious views to justify not treating all people equally, and voting against beneficial things for society at large like womens reproductive rights, stem cell research, marriage equality, and proper science education. Hopefully it doesn't lead to violence, like the Catholic clergy problems or serial killing. That type of talk will surely make me become a much worse person. That's pretty insulting. Please shut up and get out. You're just another assh*le that still clings to stereotypes about religious people even though they aren't true. And just so you know... * I do not passive aggressively oppress or suppress myself and people around me * I support equality among all humans * I don't support abortions or stem-cell research, but it's not my decision * I support gay marriage * I support science education * I definitely to the highest degree do not support violence or serial killing * I barely use religion to support myself I don't know where you are getting this from, but please, you're making things worse. I thought you werent going to post anymore? And if my posts make you a worse person than you are even more impresionable than I thought. but maybe you were using sarcasm. And yes my post was extreme, because the premise of this thread is laughable. SO I didnt see any reason to not be extreme in my response to it. And as far as projection, sure Ill cop to that. I'm just generalizing it by what I see and hear almost every day somewhere. But lets be honest here, we talking with someone who woudnt listen to an instrumental cause it offended him. And then clarified by saying he was offended by the video, the band didnt make, that used a backdrop of Darwins, origin of the species. Leading me to believe the OP rejects and is offended by like over 150 years of scientific evidence that supports that theory. Calling into question their support of science in general. and sorry to say, there are plenty of examples of how those "stereo types" as very real. So what? That does not give you the right to be a total dickhead. And let me clarify, I thought that the video was made by the band themself, so I stopped listen to it. Then the people on this thread informed me that it wasn't made by the band, so I now listen to it again. But who cares if I don't? Why should you be "extreme" just because of that? And no, I don't believe in evolution. Still, that shouldn't give you the green light to be an asshole to me.

you didnt piss me off, I just think your kinda lame. But either you'll grow out of it or you will prob get worse about it. Saying you easily piss people off mostly because of your personal beliefs leads me to believe you are probably rather vocal about it. Maybe even looking for reasons to proclaim them publicly. That comes with the expectation of response from people, some good some bad. Hating that about yourself is a common phenomenon in religious culture, self loathing. Wanting what your told not to do. It often leads to a life of cyclical deviant behavior and personal shame. With any luck you'll most likely wind up just passive aggressively oppressing or suppressing yourself and people around you by using your religious views to justify not treating all people equally, and voting against beneficial things for society at large like womens reproductive rights, stem cell research, marriage equality, and proper science education. Hopefully it doesn't lead to violence, like the Catholic clergy problems or serial killing. That type of talk will surely make me become a much worse person. That's pretty insulting. Please shut up and get out. You're just another assh*le that still clings to stereotypes about religious people even though they aren't true. And just so you know... * I do not passive aggressively oppress or suppress myself and people around me * I support equality among all humans * I don't support abortions or stem-cell research, but it's not my decision * I support gay marriage * I support science education * I definitely to the highest degree do not support violence or serial killing * I barely use religion to support myself I don't know where you are getting this from, but please, you're making things worse.

I'm just going to stop talking now. I think I pissed off everybody on TRF now. One thing people should know about me is that i can easily piss people off. Most of the time it's because of my personal beliefs. I hate that about me. And laughedatbytime, it's funny how you changed your profile picture. That was one insane play by Auburn. It's good to know that we (Michigan Wolverine fans) aren't going to be the most shameful people today after our game with OSU. How about I cheer y'all up with a funny bass joke "The whole music industry went to crap since the walking bass decided to trip and fall"

Anthem's lyrics don't bother you? Live for yourself—there's no one else More worth living for Begging hands and bleeding hearts will Only cry out for more It seems to me that these lyrics would be much more insensitive/offensive towards a Christian's point of view...[lyrics stating that oneself IS the most important 'thing', not your fellow man or God/god]. Note: I DO NOT THINK THE LYRICS IN ANTHEM ARE INSENSITIVE OR OFFENSIVE. Just to be clear: I'm only making a point. I DO NOT THINK THE LYRICS IN ANTHEM ARE INSENSITIVE OR OFFENSIVE. I see Anthem as a song of motivation. The lyrics tell you to "Hold your head above the ground and they won't bring you down ". As for that single stanza, I don't see how it ties in with religion. I don't think that the people who have "begging hands" and "bleeding hearts" are actually people in prayer, if that's what you mean. I think it means that you should care about your life sometimes instead of caring about others all the time because all they will do is ask more of you until there is nothing for you to lose. What you think I meant is not what I mean. The lyrics I mentioned talk about placing yourself before anyone else. That in itself doesn't seem very Christian-like since God would come first....and shouldn't others come before yourself (in a brotherly Christian pov)? I doubt that's not what Neil actually meant. If so, then he's going against basic morality. You're right, God does come first, but Rush isn't a christian band so I doubt they would mention God in any of their songs. Instead, they say that you are most important, but not in a selfish manner. You should always take care of others, but before that could happen, you need to take care of yourself. If you do put others before yourself, then others will "only cry out for more" from you, meaning that people will use you as a doormat if you don't care of yourself first. That's at least what I think of when I hear the lyrics. Sorry, but the lyrics in this song couldn't be any more a reflection of Randian Objectivism (not to mention the title was taken from one of Rand's works), and this philosophy does emphasize the rights of the individual over the rights of the collective, and is explicitly a selfish ideology. As such, it does go against what Christ preached, in the second Great Commandment in Matthew 22. Objectivism and Christianity in their purest forms are not compatible. Well, I know they've always told you Selfishness was wrong Yet it was for me, not you, I Came to write this song I just don't see it. Maybe I should look in to it more deeply. "Live for yourself -- there's no one else More worth living for"--Anthem "When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."--Luke 18:22 You have given very precise examples of EXACTLY what I've been talking about. Well done Good point. But I REALLY and HIGHLY doubt Neil is a selfish scumbag. He's bigger than what these lyrics have to offer. If he was, then he shouldn't be respected as person. Thank God that's not the case. I've never said Peart is a selfish scumbag. Hell, the core ideology behind Anthem itself isn't even his. I only mentioned Anthem in the first place because you stated (occasional) problems you had with his other song lyrics and your Christian beliefs. Anthem (imho) would seem the most UNChristianlike [if I were a Christian of strong beliefs]. But whatever, you disagree anyway I said that because Neil wrote them. If he had different ideologies than the lyrics, then why write them?

Anthem's lyrics don't bother you? Live for yourself—there's no one else More worth living for Begging hands and bleeding hearts will Only cry out for more It seems to me that these lyrics would be much more insensitive/offensive towards a Christian's point of view...[lyrics stating that oneself IS the most important 'thing', not your fellow man or God/god]. Note: I DO NOT THINK THE LYRICS IN ANTHEM ARE INSENSITIVE OR OFFENSIVE. Just to be clear: I'm only making a point. I DO NOT THINK THE LYRICS IN ANTHEM ARE INSENSITIVE OR OFFENSIVE. I see Anthem as a song of motivation. The lyrics tell you to "Hold your head above the ground and they won't bring you down ". As for that single stanza, I don't see how it ties in with religion. I don't think that the people who have "begging hands" and "bleeding hearts" are actually people in prayer, if that's what you mean. I think it means that you should care about your life sometimes instead of caring about others all the time because all they will do is ask more of you until there is nothing for you to lose. What you think I meant is not what I mean. The lyrics I mentioned talk about placing yourself before anyone else. That in itself doesn't seem very Christian-like since God would come first....and shouldn't others come before yourself (in a brotherly Christian pov)? I doubt that's not what Neil actually meant. If so, then he's going against basic morality. You're right, God does come first, but Rush isn't a christian band so I doubt they would mention God in any of their songs. Instead, they say that you are most important, but not in a selfish manner. You should always take care of others, but before that could happen, you need to take care of yourself. If you do put others before yourself, then others will "only cry out for more" from you, meaning that people will use you as a doormat if you don't care of yourself first. That's at least what I think of when I hear the lyrics. Sorry, but the lyrics in this song couldn't be any more a reflection of Randian Objectivism (not to mention the title was taken from one of Rand's works), and this philosophy does emphasize the rights of the individual over the rights of the collective, and is explicitly a selfish ideology. As such, it does go against what Christ preached, in the second Great Commandment in Matthew 22. Objectivism and Christianity in their purest forms are not compatible. Well, I know they've always told you Selfishness was wrong Yet it was for me, not you, I Came to write this song I just don't see it. Maybe I should look in to it more deeply. "Live for yourself -- there's no one else More worth living for"--Anthem "When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."--Luke 18:22 You have given very precise examples of EXACTLY what I've been talking about. Well done Good point. But I REALLY and HIGHLY doubt Neil is a selfish scumbag. He's bigger than what these lyrics have to offer. If he was, then he shouldn't be respected as person. Thank God that's not the case.

Anthem's lyrics don't bother you? Live for yourself—there's no one else More worth living for Begging hands and bleeding hearts will Only cry out for more It seems to me that these lyrics would be much more insensitive/offensive towards a Christian's point of view...[lyrics stating that oneself IS the most important 'thing', not your fellow man or God/god]. Note: I DO NOT THINK THE LYRICS IN ANTHEM ARE INSENSITIVE OR OFFENSIVE. Just to be clear: I'm only making a point. I DO NOT THINK THE LYRICS IN ANTHEM ARE INSENSITIVE OR OFFENSIVE. I see Anthem as a song of motivation. The lyrics tell you to "Hold your head above the ground and they won't bring you down ". As for that single stanza, I don't see how it ties in with religion. I don't think that the people who have "begging hands" and "bleeding hearts" are actually people in prayer, if that's what you mean. I think it means that you should care about your life sometimes instead of caring about others all the time because all they will do is ask more of you until there is nothing for you to lose. What you think I meant is not what I mean. The lyrics I mentioned talk about placing yourself before anyone else. That in itself doesn't seem very Christian-like since God would come first....and shouldn't others come before yourself (in a brotherly Christian pov)? I doubt that's not what Neil actually meant. If so, then he's going against basic morality. You're right, God does come first, but Rush isn't a christian band so I doubt they would mention God in any of their songs. Instead, they say that you are most important, but not in a selfish manner. You should always take care of others, but before that could happen, you need to take care of yourself. If you do put others before yourself, then others will "only cry out for more" from you, meaning that people will use you as a doormat if you don't care of yourself first. That's at least what I think of when I hear the lyrics. Sorry, but the lyrics in this song couldn't be any more a reflection of Randian Objectivism (not to mention the title was taken from one of Rand's works), and this philosophy does emphasize the rights of the individual over the rights of the collective, and is explicitly a selfish ideology. As such, it does go against what Christ preached, in the second Great Commandment in Matthew 22. Objectivism and Christianity in their purest forms are not compatible. Well, I know they've always told you Selfishness was wrong Yet it was for me, not you, I Came to write this song I just don't see it. Maybe I should look in to it more deeply.

Anthem's lyrics don't bother you? Live for yourself—there's no one else More worth living for Begging hands and bleeding hearts will Only cry out for more It seems to me that these lyrics would be much more insensitive/offensive towards a Christian's point of view...[lyrics stating that oneself IS the most important 'thing', not your fellow man or God/god]. Note: I DO NOT THINK THE LYRICS IN ANTHEM ARE INSENSITIVE OR OFFENSIVE. Just to be clear: I'm only making a point. I DO NOT THINK THE LYRICS IN ANTHEM ARE INSENSITIVE OR OFFENSIVE. I see Anthem as a song of motivation. The lyrics tell you to "Hold your head above the ground and they won't bring you down ". As for that single stanza, I don't see how it ties in with religion. I don't think that the people who have "begging hands" and "bleeding hearts" are actually people in prayer, if that's what you mean. I think it means that you should care about your life sometimes instead of caring about others all the time because all they will do is ask more of you until there is nothing for you to lose. What you think I meant is not what I mean. The lyrics I mentioned talk about placing yourself before anyone else. That in itself doesn't seem very Christian-like since God would come first....and shouldn't others come before yourself (in a brotherly Christian pov)? I doubt that's not what Neil actually meant. If so, then he's going against basic morality. You're right, God does come first, but Rush isn't a christian band so I doubt they would mention God in any of their songs. Instead, they say that you are most important, but not in a selfish manner. You should always take care of others, but before that could happen, you need to take care of yourself. If you do put others before yourself, then others will "only cry out for more" from you, meaning that people will use you as a doormat if you don't care of yourself first. That's at least what I think of when I hear the lyrics.

Why shouldn't I, the lyrics aren't insulting Christians or pointing out Neil's views at all. The lyrics are basically just telling the listener what is happen in the Clockwork Angels story at one point. It's nothing more than story information. As for this stanza. How I prayed just to get away To carry me anywhere Sometimes the angels punish us By answering our prayers I believe that this tells the listener about how desperate Owen Hardy is to leave the carnival during the Summer Solstice celebration when he is convicted of being the Anarchist and all the guards are chasing him. This stanza also restates how the people of the Watchmaker believe that they get what they deserve. I know the whole CA story ties in a little with religion, but this song doesn't really have to do with it.

Anthem's lyrics don't bother you? Live for yourself—there's no one else More worth living for Begging hands and bleeding hearts will Only cry out for more It seems to me that these lyrics would be much more insensitive/offensive towards a Christian's point of view...[lyrics stating that oneself IS the most important 'thing', not your fellow man or God/god]. Note: I DO NOT THINK THE LYRICS IN ANTHEM ARE INSENSITIVE OR OFFENSIVE. Just to be clear: I'm only making a point. I DO NOT THINK THE LYRICS IN ANTHEM ARE INSENSITIVE OR OFFENSIVE. I see Anthem as a song of motivation. The lyrics tell you to "Hold your head above the ground and they won't bring you down ". As for that single stanza, I don't see how it ties in with religion. I don't think that the people who have "begging hands" and "bleeding hearts" are actually people in prayer, if that's what you mean. I think it means that you should care about your life sometimes instead of caring about others all the time because all they will do is ask more of you until there is nothing for you to lose.

Hey, Czarcasm, that is not what I thought and or said. I don't want to listen to Tom Sawyer and Sweet Miracle because of ALL of their lyrics, which I deeply tried to interpret and analyze. And sorry if I didn't fully understood MalNar. I didn't know that the music video was made by a fan and not by the music business and Rush themselves. I'm insulted by their lyrics because I don't like it when they say that "Christians have no tolerance of other religions", like they did in Armor and Sword, which is definitely not the case for me. I never left Rush because of the fact they are Atheist, I left them because they had lyrics that I felt insult me and my Christian faith. And so what if I like other bands like FOB. I also listen to a lot of rap, but I still enjoy the classics. And Geddy's baselines is what originally inspired me to start playing bass. How in the world could I hate them?

I find it interesting that you find fall out boy and gangsta rap appropriate for a Christian but rush is an issue? I know, I'm weird like that. But hey, who isn't?

Well, look at the bright side. Neil did say metaphorically that he's done with arguing about religion in Clockwork Angels or just the book. That's at least how I see it as.

Watch the music video. There's a reason they called the song that.

I don't really care about how it was written, I just care about what was written. Meaning I rather focus on the qualities of an episode rather than focus on the fact someone wrote it on a computer. I have a bunch of Brony friends, so I know almost everything about MLP. As for the premiere, I just think the writers are too worried about satisfying their much older audience. The show would be much more enjoyable if they made episodes like they did in season 1 and 2. And I wouldn't say that it was intense. All the girly features, like unicorns and rainbow ponies, just kill the intensity for me, just like the mayor's clown costume :P Anyway, to me it was just a typical episode. It's not like it was another Crystal Empire or anything. Just as for a side note: the only character I can relate to is Discord.

I would completely get rid of Snakes & Arrows, but some songs are way too good to get rid of like Far Cry and Bravest Face. I know it's the band's opinions, but I don't feel really comfertable listening to lyrics that go against what I believe. I would be contradicting myself, kinda. I just won't listen to songs like: Tom Saywer Roll The Bones Sweet Miracle The Stars Looked Down Armor and Sword The Way the Wind Blows Faithless Malignant Narcissism BU2B Much of these songs I haven't really cared to listen to in the first place, and there are many more songs that are much better than these. But I'm happy to be listening to Rush once again. My life really is much better with them. Fall Out Boy is awesome. WTF are you talking about?

It wasn't anything special, just like the show itself. It's really nothing to be crazily obsessed with. To be honest, it's a nice show and all, but all the girly features like unicorns and rainbows just kill it for me.

For the past 3 months, I didn't listen to a single song of Rush. After analyzing some of their lyrics, I found out that some songs just dissed my Christian faith (Yes, I'm a bit of a Jesus Freak). Because of it, I just dropped Rush altogether. However, I think I'm coming back. I can't help myself, Rush is too good. A lot has happened within the 3 months I was gone. I started listening to other bands and trying other things to enjoy. Here's a list: Sting Fireflight Building 429 Fall Out Boy Although these are great artists, especially FOB with their new album, none could compare to Rush. Many other things has happened when I stopped listening to Rush. Here's another list: I started to suck at playing bass I felt unhappy, bored, and angry all the time I drifted away from my love of music I feel kinda bad for leaving Rush in the first place, but I'm gotta stop listening to a few albums, or at least a few songs because of the lyrics that got me away from Rush in the first place. All I can say is that I missed Rush and I'm sorry for leaving you. It was a stupid idea. Anyway, what are y'all thoughts on this? Have you ever left Rush? Why?

My nose is longer than Geddy's

I think the original version of Freeze is better than the remix. But, in all, the whole remix was great. I still haven't decided whether or not which version is better because I still really enjoy the original.

I go on TRF, and this is what I see. ahh f**k it... shout out to my friend Enviro_tech: a crazy pony loving freak.

The new movie Prisoners has to probably be the best movie I have ever seen, considering that I haven't lived much of a life to see many movies. Anyway, just the storyline and the acting together made me get involved watching the movie more than I ever had. The whole movie was just so intense. I don't want to spoil anything for the people who haven't seen the movie yet, but I advise you to see it immediately if you haven't seen it. If you have seen it, let's talk about, or just mention your favorite part at least. My favorite part has to be when the "aunt" of Alex (I forgot her name) proved that she was the real kidnapper the second she pointed the gun at Hugh Jackman towards the end of the movie. BTW: On an interesting note, I saw a masonic ring on Detective Loki. Anybody else think that's strange considering all the weird, almost demonic, stuff that was going on in the movie, especially with the "aunt"?

I agree that this song has to go down as a historical masterpiece. My favorite part of this songs rhythmically is the introductory and concluding bass lines. It's basically the only parts I know how to play for this song. The lyrics are definitely my favorite thing. The words are so clear and you can easily picture the portrayed story within your head. I think I should just write a short story about this song and post it on the internet even though writing is probably my least favorite thing to do.