Wingmaster

Boy, you're not kidding. I got my two, but I just looked, 6 rows back in 103 came up. (Alex's Side) I think they must be released seats. I'm going to wait on Hershey, which has been the plan all along. I almost wish I hadn't got mine at this point .

They are just decals on plastic cups, so I would think not. I will be hand washing mine. Kids get the same ones these days in princess or other Disney character form. I looked, the one's that my girls have have been thru the dishwasher a lot and don't seem to have faded at all. Still, handwashing is probably best, eh.

Did ya see any Rush beer glasses by chance? I think something similar in a set of pint glasses would be even better. If so, I wonder if I bring in a bottle of beer w/ a mouse in it I can get a free set.

I'm glad you won't be at the 7th in front of me. ; ) Actually, I'm in the front row this time so no worries. The people standing on the floor level won't be an issue. Love that window decal btw!! Cool look!

Everyone likes to see the show, and if you have someone in front of you standing, and you yourself don't want to (or can't) stand for three hours, then you cannot see the show. I can't say as I get pissed off, but it is frustrating an annoying, particularly under certain circumstances. But again, and just for the sake of discussion, if someone insists on standing, and the person behind them offers to swap seats, why not do it if you're the standing person? All I know is that if I know ahead of time, like most people that prefer to stand seemingly do, that I'm going to be standing all concert long, why not get seats in the back of the section instead of the front so that you know you won't be pissing someone off? I don't get it, why do people feel the need to get front row seats and plan on standing the entire show? Really, nothing say f' everyone else, me, me, me like that does. In fact, I used to love to stand at football games and I deliberately did that, get tix in the back of the section so that my friends and I could stand the entire game, and specifically so that we wouldn't create any issues. In sports arenas the ushers will actually come tell you to sit down if you think you're going to stand the entire game. An ounce of consideration, eh ...

I hear ya, just once I'd like to sit among the first few rows like that. But honestly, I wouldn't sit back farther, certainly I wouldn't pay those ridiculous prices for floor seats further back either. As to controversial, yeah, no problem, but really, LOL. I'd guess that's among the more controversial topics in any entertainment arena discussion, eh. I wasn't offended, and certainly didn't mean to put you down, but it's difficult to be objective about this topic w/o saying controversial things. I mean how does one confront someone on the improprieties of something as simple as double-dipping w/o risking offending the person. LOL Anyway, I could tell by your post that you meant no ill will, and frankly, my comments were implicitly geared almost more towards some of the follow-on comments that appeared to be terminally insensitive to others as well. I certainly respect you for recognizing that your decision in this way might infringe upon the viewing preferences of others. And I have to say, as a solid Type-A personality type, years ago I wouldn't have minded standing too, although I've never prefered it except for stretches. If was also much more fun too to stand on the floor of an arena when there were no seats down there. Back in the late '70s and early '80s, we'd actually have a choice to buy tickets to the floor w/o seating. Of course if you had a seat ticket, you could always go onto the floor anyway, they weren't as militaristic back then w/ the ushers and the likes. But the whole floor was for standing and at times and at the right show it was great. Keep in mind tho that the sets weren't typically much more than an hour and they had openers and there was only one set each. The openers' sets were often just 20 or 30 min. One of the few shows that I went to when I was young that actually had floor seating, and don't laugh, was the Beach Boys in the mid-'70s.

LOL Again, I didn't see a good way of putting that, but you yourself put your desire to stand above the considerations of everyone. You're new, fine, but then you come charging in here posting a highly controversial topic while expressing what YOU want to do. Great, fine, dandy, but then what, you expect the rest of us to be sympathetic to your selfishness? Again, I was not deliberately trying to incite you as I pointed out, but if you think beyond yourself for a moment, perhaps you'll see the logic involved here. If you, or anyone here, takes a look around themselves during a show midway thru, what you'll easily notice is that the vast majority of people are SITTING!!! If they wanted to stand, they would be. On the floor they're usually standing more often than not, but that's the floor, it's expected down there. Hell, in the "old days" they often didn't even put seats on the floor and fans would line the floor standing. As well, and since you haven't noticed, the crowds for Rush are older now, again, this ain't the '80s, and many are in their 50s and I've even seen many that have to be in their 60s, many bring families. Try telling a 9 year old that they'll have to stand for three straight f'ing hours because the person in front of them is only concerned about himself and insists on standing. Again, get some perspective! I think the one thing that comes to light is that those that prefer standing seem to have this f' the rest of everyone mentality that I view as being quite anti-Rush if you want my honest opinion. Otherwise, you posted it, get a grip. Not everyone, in fact I dare say most, are not going to support such a selfish me-first attitude. And a me-first selfish attitude it indeed is, implicitly, when you take on the mantra that you don't care if you force an entire section behind you against their preferences to stand simply because you insist on having your way in a public arena. And again, not trying to incite, unless you really are selfish, then I really don't mind and would have fun w/ it.. But I'm not going to tell you that you are, but honestly, what does it say when someone makes a point that they're going to do something and that they don't give a dam about what anyone thinks about it when it affects others? You tell me. I literallyl meant get a grip on your emotions. They're controlling you right now. Otherwise, those of us that prefer to sit and may have good reasons for it (long days on our feet as it is, young children that can't see over and for whom it's otherwise unreasonable to force them to stand for hours, age-related physical issues that quite frankly may be none of your business, etc.) you may want to consider as well. Then again, it's the modern era in America where everyone does whatever they want to all others be damned. LOL

That's the way you should look at it. No problem w/ standing, but just get "seats" where when you stand you've considered the majority of others that don't prefer standing throughout the entire show. Again, Tom Sawyer, fine, the first few songs, fine, the first song or two of the second set, fine, stand. But for three hours? Unreasonable. Unfortunately there's far too much anti-Golden Rule thinking that has people only concerned about "their rights" and their personal preferences to the extent that all people care about anymore is themselves. LOL, yeah, screw everyone else. ; ) Amazing to me that someone would have an issue w/ others upset about you blocking their view, you not giving a crap, but then you actually caring about the passive behavior of a half dozen people that had no impact on you whatsoever. If they wanted to buy the entire row and not show up or sleep during the show then that's their prerogative. You essentially tell people whose view you're blocking to go screw themselves, implicitly, but then take issue with people doing no one any harm? Really? LOL Indeed It's very interesting tho, in a way, to see the angles and sheer and utter lacks of consideration for other people that some people put forth. Interestingly, those that have said that they want to and insist on standing w/ a "screw everyone else" attitude also seem to take issue generally speaking w/ anyone that can seemingly enjoy the show while actually sitting in their seat. I realize that it's really reaching into the deepest realms of the mind to attempt to comprehend that anyone can possibly enjoy a concert while sitting down thru a good chunk of it. LOL

No one should have to ask, eh. When I stand, everyone behind me stands. I'm 100% conscious of it. I'm 6'3" and broad-shouldered. To not be conscious of it is to be inconsiderate. At both of the shows that I mentioned, I noticed that when I stood, the people behind me stood, when I/we did not, they did not. Obviousy the entire sections preferred to sit. So I tried to sit for the sake of the umpteen rows behind me, yet my view was then hindered by the people in front of me, once rude, the second time very polite. As well, so then to stand in the front of the section necessarily means/meant to consider ones preference as more important than the desires of everyone else behind you in that section. I told neither to sit down, I very politely asked both. Nothin' wrong w/ that. There's also nothing wrong w/ asking. Oddly, I'm not sure that most people have even thought things thru. Either way, in order to avoid the issue, I no longer buy tix that have anyone in front of me. I will not go to future concerts if I can't get unobstructed tix for that very reason.

I think it does cause a problem when two people up front stand and then the entire section has to stand. I've been to two shows in this tour thus far, getting ready to hit a third next week. Both of the ones that I went to were very similar. At the Bristow, VA show there were three people in our section in row 2 (we were row 4) that kept not only standing, but kept switching seats. I was behind them w/ my three kids jockeying everyone around to accommodate my kids being able to see thru the "holes" that they left since three people in their party weren't standing. It was annoying to have to keep moving everyone around in tight seating arrangements to accommodate their muscial chairs. This happened every other song. I also noticed, on the brief times that they would sit, the rest of the section behind them sat too, entirely, so they were in essence, the three of them, determining when all but an entire section would stand. At one point I asked if they wouldn't mind sitting, they ignored me. I later told them that my kids were having difficulty seeing and asked if they wouldn't mind swapping seats, two rows different, at least for my kids so that they could see their first Rush Show. They continued to rudely ignore me and kept standing for the most part. They got drunker as the show went on. There's a name for people like that. The second show was similar, there was a couple in front of me and my young son who were standing. I thought it would last just a few songs at the beginning, but halfway thru the first set, unable to see, and after 6 hours of driving to make the show and having worked nearly a full day from early in the morning, I just wanted to relax and enjoy the show. (as it was I drove back after the show too not wanting to stay the night) Anyway, I asked if they wouldn't mind sitting down after a point and they were actually polite and sat down and it didn't seem to hinder their good time. LOL I noticed too that they were the impetus for the entire section immediately behind them having to stand when they did, sitting when they sat. Again, for the opening few tunes that's fine and expected. Same for the first song or two after the intermission, and even the encore. But here's my thing, if you're going, you know whether or not you want to stand. How self-centered is it to get tix up front in the first row or first few rows, knowing that you're going to be standing? If you know you're going to be standing the entire time, why not get the back of a section, or at least further back and leave the front seats to fans that actually want to use the seats. 30' in viewing distance is really nothing. That's all it is from the front to back of a section. Again, or just get floor seats where everyone understands that they have no view from the moment you buy the tix. I guess I just never understand how people can be so self-focused to seemingly not understand why everyone doesn't want to stand for three straight hours, particularly on a week day where many of us have worked on our feet all damn day long and really don't feel like doing so. The Golden Rule, remember. It used to have meaning in our society. BTW, I'm a HUGE fan of doing what they do in Europe for both sporting and entertainment events, namely selling "standing places." Spots where people have to stand b/c there are no seats, just bars to lean on. It's a fantastic idea that should be implemented here too. They cost less but also allow people to get tix and stand all they want, eh.

Those things behind you are called seats, they call them that for a reason. If you want to stand, get floor "seats." People mind less down there and it's more understandable. Also gone are the 1 hour and 15 minute sets that they used to play live when we were all kids, eh. That's why I bought seats front row this time just above floor level, so that people like you wouldn't force an entire section to stand. We're not all in our 20s anymore w/ unlimited energy to stand for three hours. As for me, I have knee and hip issues from an accident where some driver hit me on my bicycle. Try putting yourself in other peoples' shoes for a minute during your self-centered rant. I'm not trying to be provocative, but honestly, do you think of anyone but yourself?

What was the last tour that you saw?

LMAO :haz: :haz: :haz: :haz: :haz: :haz: :haz: :haz: :haz: :haz: :haz: :haz: :haz: :haz: :haz: I'm still L'gMAO over the notion of Mayer w/ a Flying V. In other thoughts, Rick Emmitt was the poster-boy for the Flying V "back in the day."

Agree to a T! Many bands/artists are upset by the whole structure for ticket sales. And the brokers are a bunch of thieves. How do you think that some of the higher profile shows sell out in like 10 minutes? Some network, may have been 60 minutes, ran a piece about this a number of years ago, but what ticketmaster (I think it was them) et al. have done, is to create separate companies/corporations, that can buy the tix off of ticketmaster w/ lightning speed, at least some of the better seats. Then they resell them. Of course there are the typical independent brokers too. Either way, agree, they're all thieves that add no service or value, in fact, they detract from it, and make money merely via appearances and perceptions, marketing magic (smoke 'n mirrors if you will). It may even be that some of those well-known ticket reselling sites are those companies, IDK. Either way, it's a racket. I remember in high school and college, notice of sale date/time came out, and we'd go down to the arena or if more convenient to a local ticket outlet, which would charge maybe a buck more for the tix, ... of course they were $8 a show then. But if we went downtown to the arena, then we could get them w/ no fees whatsoever which is all but unheard of anymore. If I'm too late on the draw for tix, I usually go to the arena and try to buy from people w/ extras, which is what the boys and brokers do except that they'll resell them for more. I also always check the box office first to see what's available because there are almost always tix available for one reason or another. For Rush in Charlotte they actually opened up new sections as necessary. A couple of guys that I was with got front row top tier seating for 40-some per ticket IIRC. I have zero respect for people that make a living from adding absolutely no value to anything and screw people over.

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Hehehe ... Thanks! I'll be at the Baltimore show and if they toggle between the two from show to show, then it should be the same set there, right?

Boy, not at all in Charlotte or Bristow, VA. Crowd was great throughout.

Ya think that they could have raised the microphone on the dais a little bit so that everyone wouldn't have to bend down to talk.

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TSOR is their most played song, so maybe that's right. My thinking is that they'd play something that put 'em on the map so to speak, and that would have to be Working Man or at least a song from their first few albums. WM is the oldest tune that anyone knows and Geddy can still sing the damn thing. I'd say 2112, but that's too broken up unless they play the whole thing and then too long for an induction type event. They're also going to be songs that even non-Rush fans will recognize easily. Some of those early songs Geddy just can't properly hit the high notes anymore. Fly By Night would be a disaster live today as would a number of other songs. They can always do one of their tricked-up versions of WM too. Who knows, but I guess we'll find out soon and presumably the performance will be on YouTube shortly afterwards for those that don't have the time or money to travel that far for a pair of songs that will likely be short ones. We should run a pool here. $10 per entry. winners take all. Guess which two songs in order. Money goes to a front row(s) ticket(s) purchase at the upcoming venue of their choice.

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Tom Sawyer's got to be one of them so I'm thinking TS and Limelight. Completely agree. Not sure that they get away w/o playing TS. I have to guess that when anyone mentions RUSH, that the first song that comes to mind for more people than any other is TS. They're going to go pop-mainstream for this high-profile scrawny event.

Yeah, good luck w/ that. LOL Personally I'd love to see LVS and YYZ, but the odds of that happening are about as good as those for the Buffalo Bills winning a Super Bowl this year. I have to guess that if it's a song off of CAs it'll be The Wreckers. And it could be. TS and The Wreckers. Not a bad call actually. You have to remember tho that it's going to be two of their more popular mainstream tunes. I'm still thinking that they do their first mainstream hit, which is Working Man, and still thinking that it's impossible for them not to play what is likely easily their most recognizable tune, TS. Wingmaster's odds: TS/WM 50% TS/Limelight 20% TS/Time-Stand-Still 20% TS/Song-off-of-CAs 10% non-TS ... all but nil The logic is that TS is a must and that there are good reasons, lyrically apropos, to include TSS or Limelight, or a song off the new album for obvious reasons. Working Man spans the entire time that they've been recognized tho.

Agreed, or as Cooper says, TS and Working Man. My hesitation w/ TS and Limelight is that they're off the same album, eh. If they want to go forward a little I'd say Time Stand Still. Tom Sawyer is a given tho.

Great catch, Palmer's among the more overlooked drummers IMO.