SeamusWiles

another completely underrated song from VT... Ceiling Unlimited. It's a classic... and Geddy is singing like it's the 70s.

so Peter's in the FUTURE?? wtf is going on??

QUOTE (Mara @ Apr 3 2011, 12:41 PM) I am so tired of all this ghost shit. Every damn channel seems to have about forty different haunted shows. The dumbest one has to be the Animal Planet show. The lengths that some of the paranormal believers will go to to rationalize their beliefs are sometimes so far beyond credibility it's laughable. Bottom line - if a home ever belonged to a famous/infamous person, or has even the most tenuous link to anything of historical significance, it MUST be haunted. Like Liberace's piano (no really, I caught a bit of this on one episode), or the Alamo. . . It sort of goes like this: Here's an old building. People lived in it a long time ago. They died. It's haunted. Buuuulllllshit. Neil, is that you? I know... ghosts = spirits = religion, therefore Neil hates ghosts!

QUOTE (rushgoober @ May 1 2011, 04:25 PM) QUOTE (StellarJetman @ May 1 2011, 02:12 PM) The problem with Vapor Trails is that it's 13 songs that all sound exactly the same. They're generally pretty decent, but it's a tiring album to listen to because the lack of variety makes them all run together and you get lost. I agree, but for me I would say even more the general problem with Vapor Trails is the album Vapor Trails. This album should never have been released. I could say the same thing about S&A

QUOTE (The Owl @ May 1 2011, 04:18 PM) .....not gonna get into this on the main forum... not the place for it.... even in reference to Neal's lyrics.... I will still stay this... Neal's lyrics have had the same "Freethinking/ Non Religious " vibe for over 30 years... If they bother you that much, why are you still listening? so I can come here and complain about it, why else??

Vapor Trails is their best work since Signals. I rate it higher than Counterparts

QUOTE (The Owl @ May 1 2011, 04:09 PM) Neil has his lack of beliefs and he is free to write songs that detail his beliefs. And before anyone brings is up, Neil is not forcing his views on Geddy or Alex, who have similar viewpoints..... People raise a big fuss about Neil's lyrics being non-religious in nature, when there are thousands of bands out there doing the opposite... If you are offended by Neil's lyrics than you are clearly listening to the wrong band.. If you're talking about his recent work, it goes far beyond "non-religious". He basically attacks anyone who believes differently than he does.

QUOTE (usb_connector @ May 1 2011, 04:07 PM) QUOTE (SeamusWiles @ May 1 2011, 05:00 PM) QUOTE (usb_connector @ May 1 2011, 03:51 PM) You know, this topic is quite funny. The song almost has nothing to do with religion. Superficially, it's about two gods fighting for control over people. Symbolically, the whole thing is a representation fo how the brain works. Apollo and Dionysus represent the left and right hemispheres. Apollo represents the left hemisphere of the brain (which controls analytical thinking) and Dionysus represents the right (which controls creative thinking). Therefore, the people are actually in fact, the human body, obeying the part of the brain they have their loyalties with. The Greek gods were used as a front to convey the idea that inner peace requires a balance between logical and emotional thinking. Too much of either and you risk running yourself into the ground. I can tell you, without a doubt, that this song is not religious in any way, shape, or form. Apollo and Dionysus are really just used for the ideas they represented in Greek mythology in order to convey Peart's message. If 3,000 years from now someone finds a Christian Bible, they'd be saying the same thing. But the truth is it WAS a religion for people at one time. Neil was writing about religion, whether he knew it or not. Neil is a closet believer. I never said Greek mythology was not a religion, I'm just saying the song isn't actually about mythology. If you think it's about mythology then you've only scratched the surface of what the song is about. The "religion" part of it is just a front for what's really going on. Have you noticed the cover art of Hemispheres? It's Apollo (guy in a suit) and Dionysus (naked guy) standing on two hemispheres of a brain. Have you looked at the back of the CD booklet? 3 brains. yeah, I get it... you can look at it either way. One side wants to party and have fun, and the other side wants to be serious and intellectual and logical. Ultimately we need a "god of balance" to balance each side out. Sounds like religion to me.

QUOTE (usb_connector @ May 1 2011, 03:51 PM) You know, this topic is quite funny. The song almost has nothing to do with religion. Superficially, it's about two gods fighting for control over people. Symbolically, the whole thing is a representation fo how the brain works. Apollo and Dionysus represent the left and right hemispheres. Apollo represents the left hemisphere of the brain (which controls analytical thinking) and Dionysus represents the right (which controls creative thinking). Therefore, the people are actually in fact, the human body, obeying the part of the brain they have their loyalties with. The Greek gods were used as a front to convey the idea that inner peace requires a balance between logical and emotional thinking. Too much of either and you risk running yourself into the ground. I can tell you, without a doubt, that this song is not religious in any way, shape, or form. Apollo and Dionysus are really just used for the ideas they represented in Greek mythology in order to convey Peart's message. If 3,000 years from now someone finds a Christian Bible, they'd be saying the same thing. But the truth is it WAS a religion for people at one time. Neil was writing about religion, whether he knew it or not. Neil is a closet believer.

I realize Hemispheres is supposed to be a sort of mythological story between Greek/Roman gods and all that... but it IS a sort of religious story that he was writing about, although it's pretty much a dead religion. It wouldn't have made much difference if he had written the song about Jesus/Satan instead of Apollo/Dionysis. So why now some 30+ years later is Neil so opposed to any type of religious spirituality? Where did this militant atheism come from? Does it stem from his personal tragedies in the late 90s?

this is just like that movie "The Box"... which as I recall was pretty sh-tty film

I think one troll can be amusing on occasion, but when a board is littered with them it's just a mess and takes away all the fun.

I couldn't care less what the lyrics say... the song rocks. I guess that's why I don't mind "Dog Years" either lol

QUOTE (rushgoober @ May 1 2011, 08:07 AM) QUOTE (ak2112 @ Apr 30 2011, 10:30 PM) For some people, louder = better. Not me. I'll stick with the 25.8P and MFSL when I want the best sound. It wasn't just louder, I notice a lot more fullness and clarity in the production on the remaster, which always seemed slightly lacking to me in the original and MFSL versions. yes... on the remaster I can actually hear Alex's guitar in most songs. It's so synth-saturated that none of the other instruments came through very well.

BU2B sounds like it could have come from Counterparts. If Counterparts was high on Red Bull & Vodka

QUOTE (Phantom @ May 1 2011, 10:49 AM) "I've never understood why some people obsess about what they don't believe in rather than what they do believe in. " Given what he's gone through..... I can't blame a guy for feeling angry.... And he does speak to what he believes in.... " I believe in love, and that's faith enough for me " angry... at God?

boredom?

the only thing I don't like about the Blu-Ray is when they screw up the end of By-Tor

QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ May 1 2011, 11:46 AM) I think the R30 Blu-ray version of "Secret Touch" is better than the one on RIR, and that's saying something.

QUOTE (lerxt1990 @ Apr 30 2011, 10:47 PM) Both of these songs rock. I prefer Far Cry; but like both of them. Properly mastered, Id like OLV even more, bua ha ha haaaa! how about the remix on Retro 3?

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Apr 30 2011, 10:34 PM) so did he mention rush news anywhere? he announced the name of the new single from CA: "Xtians R Dum"