Entre_Perpetuo

Couldn't find it in the search, so here's a new poll I guess. Which of the classic Dio-Sabbath albums do you prefer? For my money, Heaven And Hell is great, but Mob Rules is more fun. MOB RULES!! (does that make me a fool?)

The synth era gets plenty of love from fans. Whatever they say in a few books and documentaries isn't nearly as important. Many fans would take Signals through HYF over CoS through Hems in a heartbeat, no questions asked. If there's an argument to be made for any era not getting enough love from fans, that would have to be the 90s (+ Presto). Now, I don't like RTB, and CP is vastly overrated to my ears, and as much as I do enjoy Presto and T4E, they never really get beyond average quality for a Rush album to me. I'm no humongous proponent of that era is what I mean to say, but even I can see those who stand by those albums as loyally as those who stand behind the synth era or the prog era are pretty few and far between. But the thing is the fans are still out there. I've seen folks on this board rank RTB as their favorite Rush release, which blows my mind, but is a totally valid opinion. Rush's fanbase is one of the more forgiving and accepting ever to exist. IMO, pretty much every album has its fair share of fans and detractors (well, not many detractors for MP and PeW, but that's about it). That's a great accomplishment in my book.

Wow! What a bold statement! I'm in shock!!!! "Supper's Ready" is better than anything on MP!! Supper's Ready isn't the only thing Genesis did that's possibly better than anything on MP. Absolutely Everything On Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England, and Lamb and Trick and Wind blow MP away! Lol, I'm not prepared to go that far Earl! :P But yeah, MP isn't the be all end all, much as I love it. I'd probably put Supper's Ready above YYZ, that being my fav track on MP, and I wouldn't be discontent with a couple other songs as well...maybe Get 'Em Out By Friday...maybe Dancing With The Moonlit Knight...I could possibly see Firth Of Fifth or Watcher Of The Skies as well... And much of what's on those albums does blow TCE away, sorry.

so was I :( It'll be interesting to see what Rob says to this, or if he says anything. If I were in the band's shoes, I probably wouldn't have asked him to come back either tbh. Not because I didn't want him back, but simply because he chose to leave, and he made that choice on his own. From the band's perspective, I would have to guess they didn't consider asking him back because they didn't honestly think he might actually want to come back. Not to mention when you're about to launch a giant tour...it is going to be a lot easier to take someone who's been hearing and working with the new music from day one on the road than someone who'll be thrown into two albums worth of songs he'll have to learn from scratch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnHm4ro_l8s&sns=em No no no, that's a weak band with a great singer. Only put it there because Earl said “loose” lol That is a great song though, always forget about that one.

Then stop listening to Amon Amarth and go listen to some pussy ass weak radio metal like you always boast about for fcuk sake Coming from the guy who loves Styx I like commercial music. I also completely respect extreme music and don't tell fans of those genres their taste is piss poor or the bands are wrong because aspects of their sound do not suit my idea of what great music is. You bitch about Amon Amarth. Stop listening to them then. Metal is full of bands with equal complexity minus the extreme vocals. So go to them. I don't like Queen. I am vocal about that. But at the same time I don't start threads about how pissed off I am that Queen fans don't share my view on something and I think they should listen. Extreme vocals are an art form. Some vocalists are better than others. That doesn't mean you have to like it. But you can appreciate that many do, and bands like Opeth and Amon Amarth use or have used such techniques to create their sound and portray what they want to bring across using their personal choices. Fans of that style of music flock to it and the bands succeed because for many they are doing what is right. You listen to shit hair metal that was as manufactured as any boy band. You proselytize to us all the time that we are wrong. Many here grew up knowing those bands and hearing them all the time. We can even enjoy them because they can be fun. But to hear someone who takes that style of music so seriously come and whine that bands that offer a lot more creatively away from the mainstream do not sound the way a Poison fan expects them to sound is really monotonous. It is like hearing a casual music fan listen to Nightwish once and ask why they don't sound more like Britney Spears because, hey!, they would sell a lot more if they used a female singer like that. You either embrace new forms of metal as you discover them or you can just piss off. Because the more you talk about music the more a dumbass you come across and the problem is you spread yourself so thickly across this forum, one can never truly avoid it. I'm not saying you should stop listening to these bands, but if you are so well informed on music, and know so much, then why would you pick a single band like Amon Amarth and endlessly criticise them? Why not look elsewhere for another band more suited to your palate? Why even bother listening to extreme vocals if you know you don't like them? I don't seen pages and pages of forum members here whining about pop artists because they don't sound like the music they like. I don't see "wouldn't Mariah Carey have been better if she stopped what she is doing to sound more like Celtic Frost?". Like...what is the point of you talking about music if you can never open your mind and embrace differences? You can be really interesting at times, but then you can be really dumb. My boyfriend hates Bruce Springsteen because he doesn't like his voice. He doesn't sit there going "I wish he sounded more like Morrissey". Instead, he chooses not to listen to Springsteen and listens to Morrissey instead. Job done. And if he wants to listen to something like Springsteen that isn't Springsteen? He can use the internet to find similar artists more suited to his palate. I do like Styx. They are comparable to Queen. I don't like Queen so I listen to Styx. If I talk about Queen, it's in response to someone else. I don't start threads about them, or complain constantly. But the thing is, I like a lot of music comparable to Queen which makes what I say easier to digest for others. I don't talk smack about a band I barely know in a style of music I never listen too because what would be the point? I don't slag off hip hop because I know little about it and what I do like is very little. But I don't expect rappers to stop rapping because I would prefer they sound more like Stevie Wonder. Usually I just ignore theses kinds of posts, but that was thoroughly logical and probably a bit necessary. Fraroc, coming from someone who is interested in your take on things from time to time, and who enjoys some hair metal and doesn't have much of a palate for extreme vocals, I think you'd be wise to really listen to what Segue is saying here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnHm4ro_l8s&sns=em No no no, that's a weak band with a great singer.

IMAGES AWAKE They're pretty close, but Awake revitalized DT in my mind after seeing all their detractors around here left a bad taste in my mouth for them. Images will always be up there for me with Under A Glass Moon though. Yep! That's why I quoted you. I love both albums almost the same. "6:00" kicks my ass on the drums. Brilliant. 6:00 is awesome, and yeah, I bet those drums are tough to nail. What hooked me was Voices though. Here I thought I'd heard about all of the best DT songs already from reading stuff on the internet, and then this thing jumps out of the speakers. What a magnificent piece!

IMAGES AWAKE They're pretty close, but Awake revitalized DT in my mind after seeing all their detractors around here left a bad taste in my mouth for them. Images will always be up there for me with Under A Glass Moon though.

...I'm not sure I've ever met anyone who likes rock and doesn't at least appreciate Zep. I've even criticized Page's kind of intentional sloppiness, but I'd hardly call them polarizing. They are the epitome of rock gods.

Awake Images ADTOE Octavarium 6DOIT and that's all I can rank based on what I've heard.

I actually REALLY like that. Not shocking I know, but like, that sounds really good.

Used and low tops and falling apart...but heck yes I do.

Wow! What a bold statement! I'm in shock!!!! "Supper's Ready" is better than anything on MP!! Supper's Ready isn't the only thing Genesis did that's possibly better than anything on MP.

There is no other vocal style that could have made Megadeth work as well as they did. Mustaine is far from a good singer but has a unique one of a kind voice that helped to differentiate the band from everyone else. I will take Dave over James any day! Hell! Dave wrote most of "Kill Em All!" My favorite album is "Countdown To Extinction!" I can't choose between Countdown and Rust. Both are phenomenal. Rust is better. I love Countdown but I think the album loses a little momentum during the second half. Can't say that about Rust. Countdown does finish well with the excellent Ashes In Your Mouth. Yeah, Psychotron and High Speed Dirt aren't the most incredible songs on there, but they work well enough for me, and Captive Honor is a treat to listen to.

There is no other vocal style that could have made Megadeth work as well as they did. Mustaine is far from a good singer but has a unique one of a kind voice that helped to differentiate the band from everyone else. Exactly! Name me someone else who could've made the same two or three vocal melodies in Holy Wars work so well!

Kid! I love your music mind!!!! Bono was great on everything to "The Joshua Tree." He SUCKS NOW! Beyond WEAK. Larry Mullen Jr was a great drummer. Now he looks like a bored Irish drummer waiting for his next dose of sleeping pills. So sad. I'd argue he put in good stuff on Achtung Baby as well, and that it didn't really show how bad he'd gotten till the early 2000s, but he never topped that period from 87 to 90.

There is no other vocal style that could have made Megadeth work as well as they did. Mustaine is far from a good singer but has a unique one of a kind voice that helped to differentiate the band from everyone else. I will take Dave over James any day! Hell! Dave wrote most of "Kill Em All!" My favorite album is "Countdown To Extinction!" I can't choose between Countdown and Rust. Both are phenomenal.

Love Megadave's vocals. To my ears, much more creative and affecting than Hetfeild, and much more musical than Arya. Only Belladonna passes him up in my book. But obviously not for everyone, I don't begrudge anyone for hating it, lol.

U2 also comes to mind. As I recall, when Bono first joined the band, according to The Edge, he couldn't hardly carry a tune. He got better of course and by the late 80s early 90s was actually a very effective and affecting singer...but then he started smoking and now his voice is shot and average again. Dumb decision.

Sorry to disagree. His voice just sounds limited and amateurish to me, especially on their earlier work. KEM he could get away with just screaming his head off and pretending he was a higher pitched Lemmy, but by AJFA he just sounds neutered to me. I actually like Load and Reload if only for the fact that James changes his approach to vocals on those albums and tries to sing with a little more emotion and passion rather than the raw aggression he'd relied on earlier. He isn't great at it still, but it's much more heartfelt to my ears.

I was struggling to think of any until this came along. Hetfield's voice and Hammet's repetitiveness as a lead guitarist are probably my two least favorite things about Metallica. Amen my brother! It boggles my mind that Metallica can still sell out shows world wide in minutes and they are simply shite to me. I've said this a million times. Once Cliff passed away on that damn bus Metallica was OVER! Sure, "And Justice For All" is a polished prog metal album with no bass and it's good. "The Black Album" is a commercial MTV record. Good for them. But YUCKY!!! Then you throw in a lazy fat Lars on the drums? The band truly is St. Anus. CLIFF EM ALL! I love ...AJFA, proof Lars was a great drummer at one point. But again, Hetfield's voice is about as enticing as an autotuned Tom Arya. The music does the heavy lifting on that album though, and despite the bassless, dry production, Kirk's ever more apparent lack of interesting solo ideas, and Hetfield's seemingly rangeless plastic vocals...they pull it off. Testament to the songwriting and rhythm work going on there. (also Testament is a great band)

I was struggling to think of any until this came along. Hetfield's voice and Hammet's repetitiveness as a lead guitarist are probably my two least favorite things about Metallica.

I have Ritual De Lo Habitual. Great album.

Just for the finale and the amazing guitar work, Musical Box gets is. TCE has grown on me, but it's still more repetitive than it should be.