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Goobs, I think that Geddy could still sing a lot of the songs which a change of delivery. For some of the songs, like Presto and The Camera Eye, he could do it live by mimicking his performance in the studio, which wasn't as yelled as the live performance. That's the problem; He can't change his (over) delivery. You have to yell and sing louder in order to hit higher notes. Back then, he could easily pull off the high notes of The Camera Eye without much effort, because he had a lot more range. Unfortunately he can no longer do that because his vocal range isn't the same. So higher notes require more power and effort from him these days.

I would like it to include every song they played since the beginning of the tour. :)

I feel really torn about the Geddy voice issue. I want to be really excited that Rush is finally getting all the massive popularity and adulation that they've gotten in recent years, and mostly because I want newer fans or newer potential fans to be introduced to their music. Watching them last night, most of me was thinking how could anyone not appreciate and love such beautifully complex music delivered in such a deceptively simple and melodic sounding way. How could anyone NOT want to pursue Rush's music after hearing such musicianship? But, and there's always that thorn in the side nagging but, which is Geddy's voice live. It's such a shame as their playing is top notch - it's really never been better, but his vocals are so rough and he sounds like he's struggling SO much that I think it could be a real turn off to those who don't know what those songs are supposed to sound like. I could so easily see a new or potential fan hearing it and going, "WOW, that is so cool, but what the hell is up with those vocals?" Now, I know the irony of that is that a lot of people have said that over the decades when Geddy's voice was sounding the way it should sound, but now it can be a turn off for such a different reason - for the simple and incredibly harsh fact that Geddy just really can't sing any more live. At best he sounds like he gets through a song, but at worst it's a lot less than that, and it keeps getting progressively worse. As much as a shame it would be if the boys stopped touring, it's really getting to the point where that one aspect is making them not up to the professional standards they've always had. I think it's time for them to give it up when that happens, though perhaps they could still make studio albums as with enough time and rest he's able to pull off singing in the studio - maybe not how he once could, but at least to acceptable standards. Of course many here will seriously disagree with me, and it's a subject almost no one wants to discuss, but it's getting harder and harder to ignore. As long time hardcore fans, we can kind of fill in with our brains with how the vocals are supposed to be, but to someone hearing it for the first time, or for the first time live, I could see it being a real detriment to their listening experience and seriously inconsistent with the rest of their outstanding musicianship and performances. And even being able to fill in myself what it's supposed to sound like, I'd be lying if I said there weren't a lot of cringeworthy moments in there... :( Taking it down another half step or full step could help - he simply can't try and sing the songs the way he used to as it just isn't working - I'd rather have it be in a whole other key or sung very differently than just sounding bad. Ged couldn't have been that bad??!! :drool: Pay Goobs no mind. Geddy wasn't bad. He was not at his best either, but that can be easily forgiven. I'm sure he spoke a lot before hand, so that was being out of routine. He's sounded great on the CA tour, and he was bringing it at the RRHOF as the professional he is. :hail: :rush: Geddy wasn't at his best indeed. But that's because he didn't do a vocal warm-up before the performance. His vocal chords were not warmed up, therefore he sang like he had no control over his voice. His voice sounded different on the induction show He usually sounds better on the tour concerts for that same reason - he does a warm up before every show. I don't know, every time I bring up a Geddy vocal fail, people come up with all kind of reasons and excuses why. The fact that people keep needing to come to his defense says a lot. And I'm not saying what you or anyone else is saying is untrue, but regardless of why, most seem to agree that his vocals weren't up to par. Rush fans are a LOT more forgiving than anyone else is going to be, and that was the one night to get them a lot of exposure to a lot of NON Rush fans. No forced excuse here, just an explanation why he sounded bad and why it's an unusual case. Don't get me wrong; I know Geddy is not at his best and might not be at a vocal peak anymore, it's really sad to think about. However, IMO he sounds way better on the tour. And I fully agree with you, the induction night wasn't good, vocally, but that's because of the same reason I mentioned before - he didn't warm up! His tone was great and fresh, but the whole vocal performance was ruined because of his struggle to control his own voice, even on a song like Tom Sawyer which he manages to nail during shows. Being a singer and a bass player myself, I know it's really hard to give a decent vocal performance when you're not warmed up. Sad but true... But like ShlappinDahBass said, the crossroads moment was good indeed. :D

I feel really torn about the Geddy voice issue. I want to be really excited that Rush is finally getting all the massive popularity and adulation that they've gotten in recent years, and mostly because I want newer fans or newer potential fans to be introduced to their music. Watching them last night, most of me was thinking how could anyone not appreciate and love such beautifully complex music delivered in such a deceptively simple and melodic sounding way. How could anyone NOT want to pursue Rush's music after hearing such musicianship? But, and there's always that thorn in the side nagging but, which is Geddy's voice live. It's such a shame as their playing is top notch - it's really never been better, but his vocals are so rough and he sounds like he's struggling SO much that I think it could be a real turn off to those who don't know what those songs are supposed to sound like. I could so easily see a new or potential fan hearing it and going, "WOW, that is so cool, but what the hell is up with those vocals?" Now, I know the irony of that is that a lot of people have said that over the decades when Geddy's voice was sounding the way it should sound, but now it can be a turn off for such a different reason - for the simple and incredibly harsh fact that Geddy just really can't sing any more live. At best he sounds like he gets through a song, but at worst it's a lot less than that, and it keeps getting progressively worse. As much as a shame it would be if the boys stopped touring, it's really getting to the point where that one aspect is making them not up to the professional standards they've always had. I think it's time for them to give it up when that happens, though perhaps they could still make studio albums as with enough time and rest he's able to pull off singing in the studio - maybe not how he once could, but at least to acceptable standards. Of course many here will seriously disagree with me, and it's a subject almost no one wants to discuss, but it's getting harder and harder to ignore. As long time hardcore fans, we can kind of fill in with our brains with how the vocals are supposed to be, but to someone hearing it for the first time, or for the first time live, I could see it being a real detriment to their listening experience and seriously inconsistent with the rest of their outstanding musicianship and performances. And even being able to fill in myself what it's supposed to sound like, I'd be lying if I said there weren't a lot of cringeworthy moments in there... :( Taking it down another half step or full step could help - he simply can't try and sing the songs the way he used to as it just isn't working - I'd rather have it be in a whole other key or sung very differently than just sounding bad. Ged couldn't have been that bad??!! :drool: Pay Goobs no mind. Geddy wasn't bad. He was not at his best either, but that can be easily forgiven. I'm sure he spoke a lot before hand, so that was being out of routine. He's sounded great on the CA tour, and he was bringing it at the RRHOF as the professional he is. :hail: :rush: Geddy wasn't at his best indeed. But that's because he didn't do a vocal warm-up before the performance. His vocal chords were not warmed up, therefore he sang like he had no control over his voice. His voice sounded different on the induction show He usually sounds better on the tour concerts for that same reason - he does a warm up before every show.

You know they have technology to alter his voice to say "subdivisions" more like the actual album, right? It's pretty much a sample which Alex triggers with his synth/sampler pedals. Unlike on the previous tours, he isn't lip syncing on Subdivisions anymore. If you watch videos from the latest shows, you can notice he doesn't even open his mouth during the word "Subdivisions", though he still triggers the sample with his foot. He might not be saying the word, but he's definitely singing the "Any escape.." part. p.s I don't know about the rest of the songs, but you can definitely hear his voice on the Freewill chorus.

Yep! Sometimes though, I do wish he would sort of bust out more often like he did on Working Man on TMT In the bits of the hall of fame induction ceremony on YouTube right now, where they are all jamming onstage to Crossroads, he sort of hung back and let the other guests play in the forefront, I wanted him to swim circles around everyone there. Hung back? He went crazy during his turn to solo! Not to mention his solo was way longer than the other solos there. His shredding showed everyone else how to Rock & Roll! So basically, he did swim circles around everyone there. Take a look at 4:45

..Are you a Metallica fan or something? Fortunately, I'm not. :D

Apparently, people love this snoozefest and the band's playing level is still unreal. What can you say? Nothing else matters.

The thing I love most about canadians - the way they make music. :rush:

Differences I like: - Bass tone is a lot more killer on the live versions. - Mix is powerful on live. - Extended parts: LTTA with extended bass solo, Driven - extended bass solo, Working Man Jam. These cool parts cannot be heard on the studio versions. - Vocals: The singing on the live versions is more professional (For example - Freewill vocal bridge on S&A) and has more emotion into it. - Drum sound: Unbelievable on live. - Guitar sound: No words to describe. Really heavy and powerful! :haz:

Why do people hate this song? It's simple, charming and beautiful.

According to the S&A Backstage Documentary, Neil doesn't use a click track.

It's quite interesting that My Favorite headache sounds like Rush while Victor sounds different.

Most of Geddy's vocals are my favorite moments. Here are two of my favorite LIVE moments: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn3w1o0grKw - The way he sings his vocal solo at 4:28 gives me goosebumps. - Middletown Dreams in Phoenix: That emotional "Ohhhh" (which can be also heard on the studio version) is just beautiful. He nailed it at the concert! The second moment from this song is the way he sang "Dreams transport desireeeeeeeees" at the same show. I mean, wow! His vibrato on the word "desires" is just killer! :D Start watching at 1:09

The original release of the Clockwork Angels Live DVD was scheduled for May 21, 2013.

Hemispheres

His hands are not an issue at all and the 80's keyboard songs have nothing to do with this. In fact, the 80's songs contain Geddy's busiest and most demanding bass melodies, and he did an awesome job on the first leg of the tour. Also, he has never played in such a high level. Just watch him play the intro to Where's my thing? - he does some amazing chromatic shredding over there. His flamenco picking technique is also on its peak (it's a demanding technique too, it causes a lot of strain on your hand). Geddy's only struggle is on his vocals, that's all.

The Weapon. "And the things that he fears are a weapon to be held against him" :haz:

Simon Phillips is awesome and his work with with Toto is amazing and stuff. But "replace Neil"? You can't compare him to Neil. Simon is a totally different drummer in his style.

I really enjoyed Geddy's work on the last 3 tours but the following songs are the ones he should not sing anymore, because they are tough on his vocal chords and they just can't sound good anymore. 1. Freewill (He did an amazing job on the S&A tour, but honestly I can't expect him to hit those notes anymore). 2. Closer to the heart. 3. Working Man. 4. The Camera Eye. 5. Marathon. 6. Circumstances. 7. Xanadu. 8. 2112 9. A passage to Bangkok 10. The Trees. Unfortunately, he shouldn't sing 70's material anymore IMO. He did a really god job on the last couple of tours but his age shows it's signs these days.

YYZ Digital Man The Analog Kid Circumstances Turn The Page Vital Signs Malignant Narcissism La Villa Strangiato Show Don't Tell Open Secretes

I thought this is a Rush massage board. Oops! I guess I was wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN_DiqgDRos There are some scenes from the upcoming DVD on the new tour ad!

Geddy used four Jazz Basses. read his answer in the 9th paragraph on this interview: http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/rush/bass-player-08.2012.php