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Thanks for the reply. That's not the response we're after though unfortunately! Oh well, let's hope that Christmas scenario pans out...

Thanks for that cool gif!!! I listened to "Grace" in full earlier. SO great In MY personal opinion (we're all entitled to them) this is the last album I enjoy from beginning to end. Don't get me wrong, there are PLENTY of songs from every album I enjoy after this point, it's just there's always a few songs on each album that don't gell with me for whatever reason. It's a shame Peter Henderson wasn't given a 2nd album to oversee a project from start to end - it's well documented he was virtually parachuted in to purely record the album, so couldn't really offer his opinions/advice on the material. It could have been interesting

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On a general note - Happy 40th Grace Under Pressure!!! I'll be cranking this one up later!!!

Hi, Thanks for passing this along. How recently did you message your friend for this info out of interest? Just thinking out loud about what's just been revealed...I suppose if they were aiming for a Christmas release and they started work on it literally within the next couple of weeks, it might just be ready in time...but I admit it doesn't look good. That's a shame isn't it? What's everyone else's thoughts?

Exactly, they should have released it on CD to cater for different people's listening habits. That's why I jumped when they released the 2015 remaster as a standalone CD in Japan. It's probably one of my favourite remasters to be honest

Thanks for the reply. This is where there's gaps in my knowledge, I haven't got the "Wandering the face of the Earth" book, so this is the first time there's a source out there saying that there actually is no live recordings from the Signals tour. Thanks for the info! I just think it's an indicament of the music industry that if some accountant says "this last boxset hasn't sold, it's not worth carrying on with these" that it's a shame we possibly won't get any more remasters, that's the disappointing thing to me. HOWEVER, we're running before we can walk here!!! Let's see what the 12th brings and take things from there

I think there's a couple of scenarios we're going to have to be patient about to see if there indeed will be a "Grace" 40th set: 1 - There's going to be a press release on April 12th (the 40th anniversary of the album) for a release in June or something. 2 - An October announcement for a Christmas release . I think if we get to October without hearing anything, regrettably I think the series will be done :( It's a shame if that happens, and it'll be due to lack of sales from the Signals 40th. They only had theirselves to blame with a lack of live content so that we'd all buy it...it's a vicious circle unfortunately :(

Indeed Even if it is just the 7 songs from the Signals album they performed from some date, it would make up for it. Fingers crossed we'll find out soon

Before we all get excited, I have no info, I just wanted to ask a couple of questions! :) We're getting closer to the 40th Anniversary of the release date of Grace (April 12th). Has anyone heard any info on when we might get an official confirmation of a set coming out? We're only going by hunches that they should release a set! An idea that's come to my mind recently: They're probably well aware of the backlash that was caused with having no live material from the Signals tour on that boxset, so does anyone else think they might release an ep with the hyperthetical Grace set of Signals songs performed from some date on the Signals tour to try and make up for it? Probably not, but it's good to dream!! :) :)

Let's hope so! I think using the "40th Anniversary" of an album's release has been deliberate. We're only 6 years now from Presto having that anniversary, so I think they're probably planning for everything up until Test For Echo. Whether they get there will unfortunately depend on sales as everything does unfortunately, so if we want to see them released we've got to buy them :)

Just catching up on the thread after some time away. Thanks for the info about how Magee's master sounds on vinyl. If the conversion to CD sounds as good for this as the other 40th Anniversary masters on CD, they both should be worth getting (when we get to that point!)

Hi, Sorry for the delay on this, every time I think I'm set-up to receive notifications for the forum, it let's me down with not informing me of replies!! Better late than never I suppose! Signals is one of my favourite albums, so I'd know instinctively if the album was sped up slightly. To my ears, there's no speed change. Even if there is a slight increase for arguments sake, what you're gaining from this new Magee remaster far outweighs any negatives or trepidations you might have in my honest opinion. I A/B'd the Magee master to Bob Ludwig's '97 master, and it was night and day in my opinion. Everything just seems more "laid back" and flat in Bob Ludwig's master when you're comparing them. Magee's master is definitely worth your money It is still available on CDJapan fortunately!

Hopefully Rush will be releasing all of Sean Magee's vinyl remasters on CD every time a 40th Anniversary of an album comes up. For anyone who has them, how does Sean's remasters for Presto and Roll The Bones sound out of interest? These are the two I'm most looking forward to hearing when we get to that point - only another 6 and 8 years to go ha ha!!! :) :)

Don't know if this is going to work, but for anyone curious about how the SHM-CD looks for the Signals remaster from Japan, here are a few photos I took yesterday :) Front Case with OBI https://flic.kr/p/2oGPfjP Back Case with OBI https://flic.kr/p/2oGRbHk Back Cover showing 2015 remastering credit https://flic.kr/p/2oGLc85 Full Booklet https://flic.kr/p/2oGPY9y Close-up Booklet showing 2015 remastering credit https://flic.kr/p/2oGLc8f CD Tray https://flic.kr/p/2oGLc7Z Interesting that they've virtually done a straight copy of the '97 Remasters case, even down to the three coloured hands tray!!! :) :) For anyone on the fence about getting this on import, it's MOST DEFINITELY worth it. Sean has dome another FANTASTIC job with the sound quality of this :) :) :) There's nuances I'm hearing for the first time on all of the songs, the layers seem much more defined and jump out at you more, honourable mentions for the Electric Violin work on "Loosing It", and the helicopter and rocket sounds on "Countdown". It definitely beats paying $230 to listen to it!!! Roll on the Grace Under Pressure remaster for next year!

Hi, Yes Amazon UK. I double checked my order today and it does now say April 29th typically! I only checked it literally on Friday and it said then it was coming April 15th. Oh well :) I suppose that release schedule makes sense. It's just technically these last two releases haven't been released on the 40th anniversary, but what can you do?! :)

BRILLIANT stuff!!! :) :) If it's sounding THIS good on Youtube...I can't wait to crank this one up on Friday!!! P.S. I'm from the UK too, Amazon are still saying it'll be with me Friday. P.P.S. Without derailing the thread too much, has anyone heard any rumblings of a Signals 40th boxset? When do we reckon it would be released, in time for Christmas (so it's actually released in the 40th year), or 2023 to stop market fatigue?

You're joking, right? DS disc 3 was blasted all to hell - the EQ (on the drums in particular but the mix as a whole) was atrocious and it was absolutely hammered with a compressor that sucked all the life out of it. They tried very, very hard to make it sound like it was recorded in 1996, not 1977. Terry's mix blows it out of the water, there's absolutely no comparing the two. I agree that the Different Stages mix sounds better to my ears. There's no right or wrong answers here, we just have different tastes :) It's probably having this mix as the only source of the concert for 20+ years!! In Terry's mix, the crowd is WAY too quiet if you compare the two mixes. On Different Stages, it feels like you're standing in the middle of the audience, so it makes the concert more exciting as I'm feeding off the crowd's energy! :) The sound effects for "By Tor", again on Terry's they are VERY quiet in the mix. I think if we'd never heard the Different Stages mix, we'd obviously be none the wiser and Terry's mix would be truly FANTASTIC (as band wise it is!!) but "it is what it is" as they say :) Does anyone know the ins and outs of the 2 mixes out of interest? I'm assuming Terry is mixing the gigs from his era with the band because he owns the copyright to the recordings, being as he originally recorded them? If so, how come that didn't apply for Different Stages? Wouldn't it have been easier for the Kings 40th to have released the full Different Stages mix, rather than pay Terry to re-mix it?? I'm just curious!! :)

Some GREAT questions here, looking forward to reading them when you've got chance. I'm SO jealous you got to meet Terry in person in 2019!!! It must have been special :) :)

Both great questions, but any albums after Signals is a burning question for me! I'll go one further and ask: "Did you ever ask the guys/Ray if you could produce another album after Signals?" I interviewed Terry in a similar fashion to you (written answers via email) for a University assignment I was doing about 10 years ago. You'll get some GREAT answers that's for sure! :) Terry was originally going to come over TO MY HOUSE to do the interview (he was obviously in England at the time) but unfortunately schedules changed at the last minute, so we had to do written answers :( :( I thought about asking him these questions then, but I didn't know how he'd take the questions (especially if we had done the interview in person). It was a shame, but it would have been nerve wacking IN THE LEAST to be literally feet away from my main production inspiration!! Oh well, what might have been... Good luck with the interview, and please keep us updated :)

Anyway, back to the other people with slightly more measured responses.. I agree that Rush has a uniqueness to their own, and don't get me wrong I do enjoy other eras (Peter Collins' production style is probably on a par with Terry, maybe more so with his use of the stereo field). It is just this album I'm finding hard to swallow. Hopefully when I see them at the NEC next Sunday the songs will 'speak' to me more. I suppose we'll see. My view about Terry isn't nessecerily about Terry's production style (although sonically it makes stuff from 40 years ago impressive) but more from the fact that he helped the guys structurally with their songs. Don't forget, all of Terry's albums has him credited for arrangement duties too. (I don't think no-one else did that, did they?) Peter Collins would also be great to have back in the chair as such.

I think that is uncalled for, I am of course only expressing my opinion

Ok, here's my verdict on Clockwork Angels (and I've a feeling some of you may not like it). I've had these feelings for 12 months so here goes: SONIC ISSUES Sonically it is a REAL letdown, everything is mashed and compressed to the hilt and I have to FORCE myself to listen to the album. I NEVER get past about track four, and I skip the albums songs constantly to hear the majority of the album. In this whole 12 months I just CANNOT listen to this the whole way through. The vinyl version is slightly better soundwise, but it seems when Geddy's vocals come in, it mushes everything else up. I suppose this is what you get if your producer records during the morning and mixes through the afternoon. I CAN"T believe a professional producer would do that to a product. I'm undertaking a production course and one of the basic 'rules' if you like is all about ear fatigue. A fine example of how NOT to do it is on this album. SONG ISSUES Ok, when the single of Caravan/BU2B came out I was excited!! Rush were back and sounding better than ever (even the sonics sounded great). I had VERY high hopes for this album and couldn't wait for it to come out. I think the biggest thing which hurt this album was the guys doing the Time Machine Tour for two years and THEN finishing the album. To me, the rest of the songs are very predictable and are too much of the same style of song. The great thing with early Rush (such as Farewell, Permanent Waves etc) there is a variety of styles on the album which gives the listener something different to appreciate (such as 'Cinderella Man' , 'Entre Nous', 'Different Strings' etc etc) when coupled with the heavier numbers gives an overall cohersion to the album in my opinion. I think if the guys had finished the album before going out on tour, I think the end result would have been very different. The lyrics also are kind of treading on the same path we've had time and again since the 80s, Neil's views and insecurities. Now I have nothing but respect for Neil coming to terms with all the tragedy he's faced over the years and I suppose you can appreciate him going down this route lyrically for a couple of albums, but why for a couple of songs can't he change the subject matter? His sci-fi lyrics are wonderful. WHERE TO GO NOW I know Rush have had a long and varied career and experimented with a lot of different styles, but lets face it, when we think of Rush, do we REALLY think of songs like Marathon or Presto to describe the band, or do we talk about 2112 and Farewell to Kings? From 2112 - Signals (though I have a REAL issue with side 2 of Moving Pictures) the band were on FIRE production wise and song content. These songs have endured for nearly 40 years, there must be a reason for this. I would LOVE for the guys to bury the hatchet with Terry Brown and use Terry's guidance to shape the album we've been waiting for since 1982. Something major obviously occured in the studio during Signals, but lets face it, they're both not getting any younger. Terry was the fourth member of Rush in my opinion, so for him to return to what would probably be the bands final album would bring the process full circle. Its not like Terry's been idle either, he's still working in the industry, the most recent of which is a band called 'Blurred Vision'. He's also produced 'Fates Warning' and 'Silent Running' over the years, even producing "I Just Died In Your Arms" for 'Cutting Crew' in 1986. What does everyone think? These thoughts are obviously MY opinion so lets not get into silly arguments over whose right or wrong (no-one is - we've all got our 'Freewill')

Sorry, wrong thread!!

Hi, First time on this forum, hope we have some good discussions. Could anyone please tell me what concert the following recordings are from please: http://www.rushisaband.com/blog/2011/04/26...ities-from-MitA (Final Track in the list!) I've been after a complete Permanent Waves show for ages, ever since I heard the AMAZING St Louis show. Now if there's a show to be released officially, that is it. Anyway, I digress a bit, but if this show is complete (I'm assuming its one show) and anyone has it, I'd love a copy of it if possible. Thanks a lot