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QUOTE (leodis9 @ Jul 23 2007, 01:14 PM) Got to agree with Restless Young Rushmantic on this one. Too much Neil-bashing going on. For some reason that is a popular thing to do on this website, quite frankly I don't get it. I guess people have a need to satisfy the "stupid" part of their brain way more than they need to.

Oh and I forgot to add, you definitely nailed #1 with Hemispheres. I probably listen to that song 3+ times per day it's just amazing. Long live

Lists, Lists, Lists, I like lists. I may not agree with order of some of the songs, but your list is doing fine IMO.

QUOTE (ioc @ Jul 24 2011, 12:31 PM) QUOTE (Lerxster @ Jul 24 2011, 09:12 AM)QUOTE (reani14 @ Jul 24 2011, 09:49 AM)Are you kidding me??? seriously? this guys fat and smokes. hes not in shape. he looks terrible... I dont know how smoking and overeating is staying fit.. His drumming has slowed down as a result of it too... is this some kind of joke?? did you read the interview before you posted? Hmmm. Lemme get this straight. So, you're asking if...reani..."READ" something BEFORE ranting posting?...about Neil? [disclaimer: haven't read article] On that other Neil post with him jamming with Copeland and company, I basically called out people like reani. It was good fun I have to say.

QUOTE (BodyForWife @ Jul 24 2011, 03:24 PM) Thank you everyone for the kinds words about the column. I really did write it for the fans first and as a fitness piece second. Hence, the hidden lyrics that non-Rush fans won't even notice. I actually did not know he was a smoker. I have a keen nose and sat two feet across from him for 15 minutes and didn't even catch a whiff of cigarette smoke. Perhaps he has quit? James Fell http://www.bodyforwife.com/ I thought it was cool how you incorporated some lyrics into your article, it was fun to see.

QUOTE (ReRushed @ Jul 21 2011, 05:06 PM) QUOTE (sonictheplumber @ Jul 21 2011, 06:03 PM) dude it's 100% fact Nope. It's not a fact. Why? Because it never happened! It's a theory, at best. It's 100% theory! I'm going to be a nerd a-hole and say it is 100% hypothesis. Not a theory. "Elementary my dear Watson."

That was a good article, I really enjoyed it. You know, a lot of people seem to think that Neil Peart looks slow and out of shape these days. I disagree and as this article points out, he is a man who knows what he needs to do to perform is job exceedingly well for his fans. You've got to understand Peart is a very tall, aging man, when you get older you will inevitably gain weight because your metabolism slows down. His weight gain looks magnified because of his large frame, however, that doesn't mean he is not healthy or not in shape. He obviously stays very active. Again thanks for the article

QUOTE (Earthshine @ Jul 24 2011, 03:29 AM)QUOTE (Dobner has assumed control @ Jul 23 2011, 08:38 PM) *In sarcastic tone* Man Neil just sounds awful, he looks so uncomfortable and out of place. He needs to learn to loosen up and have fun instead of being precise and planned out. He has really gone downhill with his drumming. Ok raise your hand if you don't have some beef with Neil just because you don't like his personality and allow that beef to carry over into anything on this forum related to Neil . . . . . ooooooh looks like three other people and I raised our hands. To everyone else who didn't raise their hand, and you know who you are, how about turning off the hate once and awhile. Not only is it annoying and childish, it really makes it unenjoyable for the rest of the people on this site who read through these threads. Relax, curb your anger and judgement, and move on. It has nothing to do with disliking Neil, his personality or his beliefs. The fact of the matter is that he simply cannot improvise comfortably, nor play other styles well, other than what he plays with Rush. Neil is fabulous as a drummer/lyricist with Rush. Outside of the band, he generally seems insecure and nervous. He has gone on and taken lessons from Freddie Gruber and then on the advice of bassist Jeff Berlin (who has played with several great drummers and knows what makes a great drummer) took lessons from Peter Erskine. Good for him. But it seems he is getting all these much needed lessons a little late in his career. His style has changed drastically from pre-1996. I don't know why he felt the need to try to be somebody else other than Neil. I think he should have just stuck with his own way of playing and not try to become trendy. I also think he should have taken lessons from the late, great Joe Morello. What cracks me up is that back in April 1984, Neil gave a most depressing interview in Modern Drummer magazine where he stated that he had gotten as good as he was ever going to get as a drummer and learnt all he had to learn. Now he is going and taking lessons from anyone who is willing to teach him and keeps flip-flopping. For example, he quit playing matched grip back in 1996 on the advice of Freddie and then switched back to it in 2002. Why would he spend all those years playing matched grip, then revise his whole technique, only to switch backed to matched grip again. And the fact that he switches to traditional grip when he has to play anything delicate and rudimental (as he himself says) shows a tremendous weakness in his matched grip after all. Then after years of having a very well arranged framework for his solo, he goes and decides he wants to basically improvise it. This in itself shows his lack of ideas and lack of originality. He keeps reverting to The Drum Also Waltzes and relying on gimmicks such as the big band effects and film in his solo. He should just PLAY! The reason I posted my comment was because some of the people in this thread picking Neil apart, do it in just about every thread pertaining to Neil. As for his career in drumming I know all about it, I don't need any lessons I've followed these guys for a long while now. I understand if you or others get bored of his drumming and that's fine, but some people on here are just overly critical. It seems ridiculous that people are so judgmental toward a guy who they don't know personally and who is a vital member of the great band, that we all enjoy, and to whom this site is dedicated (which I thought was a site where fans could share their love and enthusiasm for the band). It seems to me this site is more about criticizing the band rather than enjoying them, but I'm digressing from the subject of this thread. Now I'm not a Peart fanboy by any means, I just know where the line between being analytical and just being a d**khead is drawn. Long live

*In sarcastic tone* Man Neil just sounds awful, he looks so uncomfortable and out of place. He needs to learn to loosen up and have fun instead of being precise and planned out. He has really gone downhill with his drumming. Ok raise your hand if you don't have some beef with Neil just because you don't like his personality and allow that beef to carry over into anything on this forum related to Neil . . . . . ooooooh looks like three other people and I raised our hands. To everyone else who didn't raise their hand, and you know who you are, how about turning off the hate once and awhile. Not only is it annoying and childish, it really makes it unenjoyable for the rest of the people on this site who read through these threads. Relax, curb your anger and judgement, and move on.

QUOTE (Tigershark2112 @ Jul 19 2011, 01:24 PM) I once remember reading on Rolling Stone's website (I believe, go figure) that Neil is considered one of the top 40 worst lyricists. After going through all of these passionate comments and reading some of Neil's best work, I would fight to the death that he is certainly one of the best of all time. Screw them, they just don't get it... Rolling Stone is full idiots, if I was you I would ignore any type of list or rankings they come up with. As a matter of fact, you would probably do well just to ignore anything they publish.

QUOTE (ioc @ Jul 18 2011, 06:00 PM) [filly mignon] Where did you find that picture? It is perfect.

QUOTE (ioc @ Jul 18 2011, 03:49 PM) This thread calls for a round of Rushsteaks for EVERYBODY!!! Woohoo!! + = + Yes, we will make this catch on. It will become the greatest thing since horses and pigs were invented. + Rushsteaks will assume control . . . of everyone

QUOTE (ioc @ Jul 18 2011, 08:30 AM) QUOTE (Dobner has assumed control @ Jul 18 2011, 02:19 AM)One more thing, this thread should probably be renamed, "Blog by Neil Peart: Peart Haters Voice Your Hate and Those Who Are Indifferent Make Rebuttals." I prefer to think of it as horse-tenderizer. You get a lot more cash for it in Canada that way. Lol! Maybe we should start a business in Canada that serves tender horse meat with a large portion of bacon on the side. + = Although I didn't know you could even eat horse.

QUOTE (ucsteve667 @ Jul 18 2011, 01:40 AM) word, i think is more accurate I don't know what you mean so I'm going to post bacon bacon is always good

One more thing, this thread should probably be renamed, "Blog by Neil Peart: Peart Haters Voice Your Hate and Those Who Are Indifferent Make Rebuttals."

QUOTE (Earthshine @ Jul 16 2011, 08:28 PM) QUOTE (sonictheplumber @ Jul 16 2011, 08:17 PM) earthshine are you a conservative christian female from the 1950s? geddy can say whatever he wants to say on stage, and if you are taking a baby to a concert to begin with, I'm sure you've sweared around your kids before grow up He can say whatever he wants. But I don't have to bring my kids to his concerts. Nor will many others. Has nothing to do with being Christian or conservative. It has to do with class. Bands that use the f bomb on stage show no class. Not even Zeppelin did such things. Yet, they had class. Something that Rush is losing it seems. I guess that Geddy is trying to "relate to" the younger foul mouthed generation. Honestly, it probably just happened. I would expect better of him. I thought he was beyond that. There is one thing I think you are forgetting. These guys aren't prophets sent down from the heavens, they are human beings just like the rest of us. So once in 30+ years of doing shows, Geddy says the foul, heathen mother of curse words and you claim that it diminishes the bands class? Give me a break, when did everyone start becoming hypocritical, pompous, idiots? Geddy as far as I'm concerned you can say whatever the hell you want to say my friend, same goes for the rest of the band. Human, all too human.

QUOTE (King Whompus @ Jul 16 2011, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (clem @ Jul 16 2011, 10:53 AM) How can anyone say that Rush is better than U2? After all, U2 is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Rush is not! RRHoF doesn't mean sh*t Hahaha I still can't believe people believe the RRHoF has any bearing on whether a band is "good" or not. Let's just say if the RRHoF burned down tomorrow, ZERO would be the number of f***s I give. Long live

Whoops I quoted the wrong person.

QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Jun 20 2011, 10:11 AM) Ill vote for Neil. But then again, I am a Rush fanboy... Copeland is fantastic, I like his style it's very interesting and works well with the Police style of music. As far as what some people that stated how Neil's precise or "robotic" style can get "uninteresting" I can see how you would feel that way. However, Neil's way of utilizing many different forms of percussion and his ability to use varying time signatures flawlessly makes him a very interesting drummer and more importantly, a joy to listen to. I have much respect and admiration for both drummers, it's Neil's power, precision, and use of different forms of percussion blended with his raw drumming that set him apart. IMO.

QUOTE (BigBob @ Jul 13 2011, 07:34 AM) Freewill did it for me. I was stuck at this job 2.5 yrs and hated it. But I did it cause I was told its good to have a job in this economy. I l always liked the song Freewill but then one day I really heard the lyrics "You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill" and was like whoa. So I spent the next six months finding a better job and I got a job that just kicks the butt of my old job so many ways. Also, I new to this forum, how do make spaces in between lines? Awesome Forum!!!!!!!! You mean like double-space? You have to space the lines manually if you want to space them. There is no double-space option on here that I know of. Hopefully that helped? Oh yeah, welcome to the forum, I'm somewhat new as well.

QUOTE (go2wrk@95974 @ Jul 10 2011, 03:19 PM) hmmm...Good question. i'm gonna start off with these 5 lyrics: 1) Working Man ( I heard this song on the radio in 74, and it just hit me like a 2 by 4 over the head..boom. I was in my 4th year as a newspaper boy. Did it for 5. Anyway, the lyric's fit my daily situation, no doubt.) 2) The Trees (I always loved the outdoor's , growin' up. We used to go campin' all the time, so the love of nature, and conserving the natural landscape/resource's, made sense to me. Tree's have to be protected at all cost..for future generation's) 3) Natural Science ( Great concept-intriguing lyric's.The beginning of it is classic..the sound of the gull's and seashore..awesome! I'm a poet/lyricist, so words are very important to any song I hear.) 4) Spirit Of Radio ( This song to me is total freedom, while hitting the open road and listening to your favorite song's on the radio.. not a care in the world...just ROCKIN!///and the beginning riff is just pure genius...I remember buying the LP on 1-1-80, and thinking wow..the 80's are going to hold so much promise aka: KICK A*S!!) 5) Camera Eye ( Being an Amatuer abstract Photographer, this song just resonated with me..all the lyrical image's and reflection's.. ....Brilliant!) I could go on and on..but I wont! ( Thank God, right?) All of those songs are great. I'm with you, I love the intellect and poetry in songs like natural science. I wish I would put a pen to paper more often than I do, kudos to you for engaging in poetry and lyric-writing.

I think it's awesome how one band has a catalog of songs that has something that can reach all different people. Great posts people.

These are all great lyrics and it is cool to see the different ways in which they reach people. Keep it up. For me Subdivisions has lyrics that really say something to me: "Growing up it all seems so one-sided Opinions all provided The future pre-decided Detached and subdivided In the mass production zone" This is exactly how I view things right now, it's like Peart took the thoughts right out of my head (even though I wasn't born when he wrote this ) Also (see Freewill) "A planet of playthings We dance on the strings Of powers we cannot perceive "The stars aren't aligned - Or the gods are malign" Blame is better to give than receive." There is so much insight and intellect in this particular part, as well as the rest of the song, that it is hard not to just sit back and wrap your head around it for awhile. Peart has such a gift and it is a rarity in this day in age.

I'm interested in finding out which lyrics really impacted you in such away that made you just say, "Wow! This song speaks to me on so many levels, it's like it was written for me." This is a tough one for me because there are a few songs I can think of, so I will post some lyrics when I narrow them down. Just maybe post the lyrics and kind of explain why those lyrics hit you the way they did. Happy posting!