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Is "Annihilation Gun" real? If it is, is it too late to fix it?

QUOTE (Good,bad,andrush @ Mar 18 2011, 11:37 PM) The creepy voice sounds absolutely stellar, and is the best of the odd rush voices. Considering that it's up against stuff like Peart's narration in "The Necromancer" and the rapping skeleton in "Roll the Bones", that isn't saying much.

QUOTE (Good,bad,andrush @ Mar 16 2011, 10:39 AM) "no one gets to the heaven without a fight." The line is "their heaven", not "the heaven".

Regarding Rutsey...

QUOTE (hunter @ Feb 10 2011, 02:15 PM) http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4589139004_f85fba1665_z.jpg Looks like an early '30s BMW racer of some sort, although I don't have the time to do much research on that at the moment.

Overrated: "Tom Sawyer". Never did like that one. Underrated: "How It Is", mainly by virtue of being on Vapor Trails.

QUOTE (ReRushed @ Mar 9 2011, 11:35 PM)I simply don't understand this criticism. Really? Transparent filler? Yeah. It's literally, "The more that things change, the more they stay the same," inserted into the song before... "The more that things change, the more they stay the same." What? The only benefit that this has is that it lengthens that part of the song and fills out the meter. QUOTE (Tinwoodsman @ Mar 9 2011, 11:55 PM)I said pardon? Where the hell do you come from. That is just bitchy troll behavior on your part. Get a life. Pffft. ... and No Quarter. I'm a "bitchy troll" who needs to "get a life" because I don't like one line in one song? QUOTE (snowdogged @ Mar 10 2011, 09:59 AM) Actually, that is a quote from a french writer named Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr who lived in France during the 19th century. Maybe that will shed some light on it. Doesn't change the fact that it's just the French translation of a phrase said before the same phrase in English in order to make the line longer.

Just remembered how annoying it is to hear the French in "Circumstances". Such transparent filler to balance out the meter.

Realizing that I'm the 11,353rd member and joined on 5/3/11. (The date goes by the board's notation; I'd render it as 3/5/11, but it wouldn't have the palindrome effect.)

QUOTE (Fridge @ Mar 8 2011, 03:08 PM) And when everyone has a different persepctive, what do we have? That's right, I give you....subjectivity "Perspective" is a noun that means "point of view". "Subjective" is an adjective that means "dependent on personal opinion". To illustrate, you could have the perspective that Rutsey is still with the band, but that wouldn't make it a subjective matter. You'd still be objectively wrong. Ghostworks's point was that bad lyrics are bad, regardless of personal standards. Not taking sides, but it's better for you two to be on the same level regarding terminology.

QUOTE (Lamelight @ Mar 7 2011, 11:29 AM) High Water at 0:45/0:46. Never paid any attention to that before. What am I supposed to be hearing here?

QUOTE (Mara @ Mar 7 2011, 01:19 PM) Stop trying to confuse things. You know this board; we'll end up breaking it down to shit like "33/57ths of the world likes one-sixth of Roll The Bones". . . Which would be the chorus, right?

I stood at the top of the mountain... And doggie heaven sang to me...

QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Mar 7 2011, 11:05 AM)SJ - ok fair enough. But you'd hardly expect Ged to sing the last few lyrics to TSoR in a manner closer to Simon and Garfunkel to help listeners make the link. Remember that part of the song is a reggae-style breakdown, so he was pretty limited in the way he can sing it. Then comes the 'SALESMEN!' because it precedes a mega guitar break from Alex so it all works in terms of the dynamics of the song, imho. I understand that completely. However, even listening to it with that in mind, the line still doesn't work for me. I had hoped that I'd "get" it and end up appreciating it a lot more, but there's no way that I can hear the word "salesmen" and not think that it clashes horribly with the grand way in which it's emphasized. QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Mar 7 2011, 11:05 AM)I'm not saying that the song and the lyric is beyond criticism, but it seemed a strange choice for you to start a thread about terrible lyrics with additional comments on the singer's delivery, don'cha think? Well, there's a world of difference between reading, "Of salesmen. Of salesmen. Of salesmen," and reading it with exclamation marks and whatnot. I guess that it really was just the delivery that got me on that one.

QUOTE (ReRushed @ Mar 7 2011, 09:38 AM)Oh, please. There's no straw man argument here. There's a lot of Rush bashing on this board and, yes, some of it is justified. And there's no doubt in my mind you are going out of your way to criticize Geddy Lee. That's all. I wasn't "criticizing" Geddy; I was mentioning a reason for why I didn't get the lyrics that he was singing. (I do think that it wasn't the best way to sing them, though.) And how could you fail to understand that I was talking about a single line in a single song? When I said "overblown delivery", I was talking about the way that he sang "OOOOOF SALESMEN!!!" like it was something on 2112. Sheesh, on the same album you have "Different Strings", and I'd hardly call that overblown. QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Mar 7 2011, 09:54 AM)SJ - before you start a thread bashing something you should probably make sure your position is reasonably sound. Whatever else Neil is, he is very well read and has a number of interests. His lyrics are therefore explained by a number of different references, themes etc. If you are not aware of them it says more about you than it does about his ability as a lyricist. And I was informed of the reference. I'd have removed the lines from the original post, but it's locked for some reason. QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Mar 7 2011, 09:54 AM)What is worse is that now that your lack of appreciation of the lyric is revealed, you switch the attack to Ged's delivery. I'm not "switching my attack". See my response to ReRushed. Look, guys, I didn't get the line. I got that. Why do we have to argue about anything now, let alone whether or not I appreciate Geddy's singing?

QUOTE (ReRushed @ Mar 7 2011, 09:21 AM) Well, I'm glad this board now has some equal opportunity Geddy Lee bashing. I had no idea how overblown Geddy's vocal delivery has, apparently, always been. You're better than to use a straw man like that.

QUOTE (Tony R @ Mar 7 2011, 09:05 AM) And dear me, if you've heard tSoR and The Sound Of Silence how can you possibly not make the connection? It's been a while since I last listened to "The Sound of Silence" (I had a quick go on YouTube just now to refresh my memory), and there's a world of difference between Geddy's screaming and Paul's and Art's harmonious delivery, to say nothing of the completely different melodies. I can see the connection now, but only because I was looking for it.

QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Mar 7 2011, 05:02 AM) The lyrics to TSoR are a doff of the cap to 'The Sound of Silence' by Simon and Garfunkel, which goes: "And the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls And tenement halls, and whispered in the sounds of silence" Ah. I've heard "The Sound of Silence", but I didn't begin to make the connection. It's definitely Geddy's overblown delivery, then. QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Mar 7 2011, 06:03 AM)These lyrics are fine given the context. The only problem is they are slightly illogical. It is supposed to be a person who has never seen a musical instrument - "what can this strange device be?" - but he then says it gives music when he touches it. If he knows what music is then as soon as he has touched it he must know what the device is for. If he doesn't know what music is then how does he know it is music that it is producing? He has to know what music is, because the priests "have taken care of everything, the words you read, the songs you sing". But musical instruments could still be a completely foreign concept to him. Whatever; it's still a supremely silly passage. I love how he somehow plays the guitar instinctually without any prior experience.

QUOTE (Enemy Within 77 @ Mar 7 2011, 12:14 AM) If you're gonna knock the lyrics you can at least get them right. It's "better VANISHED time." Oh. That makes a lot more sense. It was the Permanent Waves/Moving Pictures "don't synchronize the word emphasis with the tune" style of writing, coupled with Geddy's enunciation, that threw me off.

QUOTE (CMWriter @ Mar 6 2011, 10:51 PM) "I knew he was different in his sexuality.." I get it. I get what he's trying to say here. But the execution, to me, kind of.. falls... flat. Maybe it's the fact that he says it in such a weird, roundabout fashion, one which is highlighted by the way that the following line gets right to the point with "straight minority"?

QUOTE (CMWriter @ Mar 6 2011, 09:12 PM) I once saw someone comment that they found many of the lyrics to "Red Barchetta" rather "Middle-school" is what they used to describe them. What do you guys think? Yea or nay for "Red Barchetta"? Some of them are good, but there are phrases, especially "before the Motor Law" and "better-managed time", that really don't do it for me.

QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Mar 6 2011, 08:15 PM) The line from TSOR fits the song perfectly. The words written on the studio walls I always thought referred to a wall that rocks stars signed while visiting a radio station studio. Or possibly autographed pictures of them hanging up on a wall in the studio. The line "echoes with the sounds of salesmen" makes perfect sense because it's referring to advertisements on the radio. And since it's a song about radio what's the big deal? Oh, I get the lyrics. I just think that the way that they're written is really cheesy, especially in combination with Geddy's delivery. Similarly, it's easy to see the message behind "Dog Years", but it's articulated laughably.