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#1 rushstarboy37

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 01:29 PM

How many rush songs are there that are connected in a way from different albums?

so far i know of :

by-tor and the snow dog
the necromancer

cygnus X-1
Cygnus X-1 Book II

the four parts of fear(or so i hear):
The enemy within
The weapon
Witch hunt
Freeze

what other ones are there?

I've always been interested in things like this and im trying to find all the songs that connect and play them together.

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 01:37 PM

Where's my Thing/Leave that Thing Alone


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Posted 15 April 2005 - 01:52 PM

QUOTE (rickyrob @ Apr 15 2005, 01:37 PM)
Where's my Thing/Leave that Thing Alone

"it's a totally different thing"!!!


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Posted 15 April 2005 - 01:55 PM

actually by-tor and Nec aren't connected. In one By-tor is bad and the other he is good....it's just a name. One of the roadies dogs if I remember  

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 01:59 PM

oh, yeah i was wondering because by-tor was defeated by the snow dog.

i was thinking maybe he was good then he turned bad or something.

oh well, still a cool name.

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 02:00 PM

The gangster of boats trilogy.


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Posted 15 April 2005 - 02:03 PM

what are all the songs in the boats trilogy?  

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 02:06 PM

QUOTE (rushstarboy37 @ Apr 15 2005, 02:03 PM)
what are all the songs in the boats trilogy?

Only "Where's my thing"....and it's part IV, which is kind of hard to have a part 4 in a trilogy. icon_really_happy_guy.gif


They're just goofs sometimes...esp Alex.

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 02:08 PM

lol, yeah they are

big al's tiki bar, lol.
I like the interview with the british dog.

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 02:09 PM

QUOTE (My_Shrimp_Cot @ Apr 15 2005, 08:06 PM)
QUOTE (rushstarboy37 @ Apr 15 2005, 02:03 PM)
what are all the songs in the boats trilogy?

Only "Where's my thing"....and it's part IV, which is kind of hard to have a part 4 in a trilogy. icon_really_happy_guy.gif


They're just goofs sometimes...esp Alex.

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What have you been on today Shrimp??  rofl3.gif

you're setting me off now  icon_really_happy_guy.gif

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 02:15 PM

What about grace under pressure? maybe it's just me but those songs totally sound like they are connected in a way.

maybe it's just because geddy only refers to the other person in the songs as you the entire time and has red in like three songs.

distant early warning: red alert, red sector A, red lenses

Edited by rushstarboy37, 15 April 2005 - 02:19 PM.


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Posted 15 April 2005 - 02:21 PM

I've always noticed things like lyrics that point to another song or album.  It's probably just coincedence, but for example:

"SIGNALS get crossed.."  from Vital Signs

"ALL THE WORLD'S indeed A STAGE"  from Limelight

"Force a SHOW OF HANDS"  from Prime Mover

Etc etc...


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Posted 15 April 2005 - 02:33 PM

QUOTE (Earthshine @ Apr 15 2005, 02:21 PM)
I've always noticed things like lyrics that point to another song or album.  It's probably just coincedence, but for example:

"SIGNALS get crossed.."  from Vital Signs

"ALL THE WORLD'S indeed A STAGE"  from Limelight

"Force a SHOW OF HANDS"  from Prime Mover

Etc etc...


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interesting, i'll check that out.

i need to buy more albums first.

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 02:46 PM

I've personally considered "Middletown Dreams" connected to "Mission". In Middletown dreams, it's about the dream whereas in Mission it's the actions taken in response to those dreams.

Subdivisions could be thrown in there too, but since Grace Under Pressure interrupts that concept, I don't count it.

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 04:09 PM

QUOTE (My_Shrimp_Cot @ Apr 15 2005, 01:55 PM)
actually by-tor and Nec aren't connected. In one By-tor is bad and the other he is good....it's just a name. One of the roadies dogs if I remember

no actually they are the same person. It's explained in the necromancer. hes returned and the curse is broken, he used to be evil but hes good now. by the way, how many people are princes by the name of by-tor? hes a prince in both songs, it is the same one.

By-tor and the snowdog
I. At The Tobes Of Hades
The Tobes of Hades, lit by flickering torchlight
The netherworld is gathered in the glare
Prince By-Tor takes the cavern to the north light
The sign of Eth is rising in the air.
By-Tor, knight of darkness,
Centurion of evil, devil's prince.

II. Across The Styx
Across the River Styx, out of the lamplight
His nemesis is waiting at the gate
The Snow Dog, ermine glowing in the damp night
Coal-black eyes shimmering with hate.
By-Tor and the Snow Dog
Square for battle, let the fray begin...

III. The Battle
i) Challenge And Defiance
ii) 7/4 War Furor
iii) Aftermath
iv) Hymn of Triumph

IV. Epilogue
The battle's over and the dust is clearing
Disciples of the Snow Dog sound the knell
Rejoicing echoes as the dawn is nearing
By-Tor in defeat retreats to Hell
Snow Dog is victorious
The land of the Overworld is saved again.

The necromancer
III. Return of the Prince
Enter the Champion. Prince By-Tor appears to battle for freedom from chains of long years. The spell has been broken...the Dark Lands are bright, the Wraith of the Necromancer soars away...in the night.

Stealthily attacking
By-Tor slays his foe
The men are free to run now
From labyrinths below
The Wraith of Necromancer
Shadows through the sky
Another land to darken
With evil prism eye...



edit: also note he was never slayed he only retreated to hell after he failed to win. by-tor rocks

Edited by rushstarboy37, 15 April 2005 - 04:13 PM.


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Posted 15 April 2005 - 04:17 PM

QUOTE (rushstarboy37 @ Apr 15 2005, 11:15 AM)
What about grace under pressure? maybe it's just me but those songs totally sound like they are connected in a way.

maybe it's just because geddy only refers to the other person in the songs as you the entire time and has red in like three songs.

distant early warning: red alert, red sector A, red lenses

You're right all the songs are loosely connected on Grace.  Neil said in one of his books that he tends to go with a theme on albums...

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 08:42 PM

QUOTE (rushstarboy37 @ Apr 15 2005, 01:09 PM)
QUOTE (My_Shrimp_Cot @ Apr 15 2005, 01:55 PM)
actually by-tor and Nec aren't connected. In one By-tor is bad and the other he is good....it's just a name. One of the roadies dogs if I remember

no actually they are the same person. It's explained in the necromancer. hes returned and the curse is broken, he used to be evil but hes good now. by the way, how many people are princes by the name of by-tor? hes a prince in both songs, it is the same one.

By-tor and the snowdog
I. At The Tobes Of Hades
The Tobes of Hades, lit by flickering torchlight
The netherworld is gathered in the glare
Prince By-Tor takes the cavern to the north light
The sign of Eth is rising in the air.
By-Tor, knight of darkness,
Centurion of evil, devil's prince.

II. Across The Styx
Across the River Styx, out of the lamplight
His nemesis is waiting at the gate
The Snow Dog, ermine glowing in the damp night
Coal-black eyes shimmering with hate.
By-Tor and the Snow Dog
Square for battle, let the fray begin...

III. The Battle
i) Challenge And Defiance
ii) 7/4 War Furor
iii) Aftermath
iv) Hymn of Triumph

IV. Epilogue
The battle's over and the dust is clearing
Disciples of the Snow Dog sound the knell
Rejoicing echoes as the dawn is nearing
By-Tor in defeat retreats to Hell
Snow Dog is victorious
The land of the Overworld is saved again.

The necromancer
III. Return of the Prince
Enter the Champion. Prince By-Tor appears to battle for freedom from chains of long years. The spell has been broken...the Dark Lands are bright, the Wraith of the Necromancer soars away...in the night.

Stealthily attacking
By-Tor slays his foe
The men are free to run now
From labyrinths below
The Wraith of Necromancer
Shadows through the sky
Another land to darken
With evil prism eye...



edit: also note he was never slayed he only retreated to hell after he failed to win. by-tor rocks

By-Tor is redeemed in The Necromancer.

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 08:38 AM

The last line in "A Farewell to Kings"...

"Can't we find the minds that lead us closer to the heart."




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