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QUOTE (Mara @ Jul 7 2010, 11:57 AM) And I wonder if it's one reason why they have a static setlist. NO, THIS IS NOT A COMPLAINT ON MY PART!!! Just to be clear. But if they relied less on samples they triggered themselves, maybe designated a few crew members to take on this task (god, I'd hate to be the one who screwed up) That's what I alluded to earlier. The choreography involved not only with triggers (add in lighting, pyro, and monitor mixes) makes a fluid setlist impossible. Having one of the crew trigger things just wouldn't work. Some triggers have to be hit at the same exact time a note is played or a drum is hit. If it isn't triggerred simultaneously, the whole band's timing gets thrown off. Not good.

QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Jul 7 2010, 08:12 AM) QUOTE (_pete_ @ Jul 7 2010, 08:55 AM)QUOTE (briremo @ Jul 7 2010, 07:46 AM) QUOTE (_pete_ @ Jul 7 2010, 07:33 AM) QUOTE (briremo @ Jul 6 2010, 07:19 PM) Its better than when they had a guy at the sound board in the back of the hall playing keyboards, like they used to do. There are lighting controllers that are small keyboards. I think this is what you may have seen. They have never had anyone offstage playing musical parts. The band is adamant about that. They do all the triggering and playing. They did have a crewmember (Jack Secret) offstage changing the sampler banks and loading programs but that is not the same thing. never say never Yeah I'm gonna say never. With samplers it's very simple to trigger a pre-recorded part. You can watch any live vid and see who triggers the parts and when they do it. Ged can trigger from the keyboards or either set of foot pedals. Alex triggers from his foot pedals and Neil triggers from his MalletKat, V-drums, or Dauz pads. My band does it the same way with less tech than they have available. There is no need to have a fourth person playing parts. It would be harder to have a fourth person triggering parts due to the timing needed. It much safer to hit a trigger at the same time you hit a certain note. They have said that they do ALL the triggering during the shows and there is no reason to doubt that. Briremo, _pete_ knows his shit. The band does not have anyone from the crew playing keys or triggering samples. Loading samples beforehand, yes. But not triggering them. QUOTE (trenken @ Jul 7 2010, 07:32 AM)QUOTE (Nate1647 @ Jul 6 2010, 10:16 PM) a lot of times I've noticed rush samples intros (caravan, spindrift, witch hunt, TCE) into one long sample, and its triggered by holding a foot pedal down. They do lots of other things to make things simpler too. Sometimes they will assign chords to one key on the keyboard so Ged doesn't actually play the actual chord (like on between the wheels and mystic rhythms). then for songs like mission its 2 different loops (the D to A and the G to A in this case) set on different keys. Watch enough live videos and try some of it for yourself and its pretty easy to figure out Yep ive noticed that too, him holding one key and an entire chord. The reason for this is he cant really be bothered with having to memorize all that. He already has to memorize basslines and lyrics for songs he doesnt even listen to like we do, has to remember all the parts and changes for many songs over a 3+ hours time period, to have to remember all the keyboard parts on top of that is a bit much. Could you imagine having to memorize all those keyboard chords? Thats silly. So he cheats a little, its not a big deal to me. A good example of that is "Mission" from ASOH. You see him press one key and you hear the two opening chords cycling back and forth. You then see him press another key to change to two different chords. Then you have songs like "Subdivisions" where he's playing all the keyboard parts the old fashioned way. Thank you sir! Subdivisions is a good example. The way that song is arranged, the keys and the bass are not played at the same time so the keys do not have to be sampled. You'll notice different keyboard sounds on that song throughout the years due to Ged using different models of synths. During the keyboard solos, Alex plays the bass notes on his set of bass pedals. When my band does that song, the keys are played live, I play the bass notes during the key solo just as Alex does, and our drummer triggers the deep "Subdivisions" while I pretend I'm singing it. In our tribute band we try really hard to do each song the same way the boys do. It's a very complex choreography to get it all to work correctly. Every song has to be done in certain ways and it leaves no room for improvisation or spur of the moment set changes. That's why Rush shows never change much during a tour. Having a fourth person involved would add a huge risk of a trainwreck.

QUOTE (briremo @ Jul 7 2010, 07:46 AM) QUOTE (_pete_ @ Jul 7 2010, 07:33 AM) QUOTE (briremo @ Jul 6 2010, 07:19 PM) Its better than when they had a guy at the sound board in the back of the hall playing keyboards, like they used to do. There are lighting controllers that are small keyboards. I think this is what you may have seen. They have never had anyone offstage playing musical parts. The band is adamant about that. They do all the triggering and playing. They did have a crewmember (Jack Secret) offstage changing the sampler banks and loading programs but that is not the same thing. never say never Yeah I'm gonna say never. With samplers it's very simple to trigger a pre-recorded part. You can watch any live vid and see who triggers the parts and when they do it. Ged can trigger from the keyboards or either set of foot pedals. Alex triggers from his foot pedals and Neil triggers from his MalletKat, V-drums, or Dauz pads. My band does it the same way with less tech than they have available. There is no need to have a fourth person playing parts. It would be harder to have a fourth person triggering parts due to the timing needed. It much safer to hit a trigger at the same time you hit a certain note. They have said that they do ALL the triggering during the shows and there is no reason to doubt that.

QUOTE (reimero @ Jul 6 2010, 03:48 PM) The "main black" isn't actually his "main black." It's a Custom Shop bass like the others (the video camera actually got a shot of the back of the head, which clearly showed the Fender Custom Shot logo.) That's interesting. Has it been said that it is an entirely new bass? As attached as he is to the '72 I would be amazed that he would retire it. I know the neck on the original '72 was replaced for the S&A tour with the neck from a Fender Geddy Jazz. The original neck was very worn out. This was said by his bass tech on the TalkBass forums. I would not be surprised if he had Fender make him a new Custom Shop neck for the '72.

QUOTE (briremo @ Jul 6 2010, 07:19 PM) Its better than when they had a guy at the sound board in the back of the hall playing keyboards, like they used to do. There are lighting controllers that are small keyboards. I think this is what you may have seen. They have never had anyone offstage playing musical parts. The band is adamant about that. They do all the triggering and playing. They did have a crewmember (Jack Secret) offstage changing the sampler banks and loading programs but that is not the same thing.

Fantastic. Thanks for posting. I keep forgetting to check H&K's website.

QUOTE (New World Manny @ Jul 4 2010, 02:08 PM) QUOTE (Joshua @ Jul 4 2010, 08:41 AM) QUOTE (farcryoverspilledmilk @ Jul 4 2010, 01:49 AM) Vital Signs from tonight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB3nPopwgw0 Wonder what the early guitar switch was all about there. Broken string. Yup. Right before he starts singing, you can just hear Geddy say "You don't need that one". I have a boot from a very early show (Tampa?) on the S&A tour where Alex's ES355 was hideously out of tune when they started the encore with OLV. These things happen.

Three from what I've seen. The main black Jazz (with a new neck and pickguard for this tour) The red Jazz (tuned down one step for 2112) Another black Jazz (tuned to drop D for Stick it Out) I'm sure they carry a backup for each bass also. No Ric and no fretless to be seen this time around.

Thanks! I was gonna edit the post to add the Workin" Them Angels guitar but the edit button is gone. WORKIN' THEM ANGELS --Cherry Sunburst Gibson Les Paul w/ piezo

QUOTE (Jaminbenb @ Jun 30 2010, 09:54 AM) Wow....whiners! it's it's LIVE Ok...would it kill them to play Lakeside Park? For real! I don't understand the complaining and whining. You're getting old songs that have never been played live, new songs, and new arrangements of some staples. I for one am damn glad they still want to tour. They could have easily hung it up years ago. Jeez, be thankful that you're getting anything at all.

These songs sound awesome. I liked S&A but it took a little while for it to grow on me. These I love straight away. I'm so happy that they're heavier and more up tempo than the songs on S&A. The guitars sound freakin' fantastic too. The boys are definitely not going through the motions here. This album is gonna kick some ass.

This is terrible news. 55 is way too young. I've always loved the first Rush album. I bought it new in 1974 soon after it was released. I was 14 and just learning to play guitar. That album really inspired me to become a good player. Ironically, John's leaving was the best thing for Rush but his playing on that debut album was exactly what it needed. I think Neil's playing would have been too much for those songs and might have made them too complex to get airplay at that time. RIP John and thanks for being part of the soundtrack of my life.

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