liquidcrystalcompass Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE (dimensionidol @ Dec 29 2005, 01:33 PM) if you guys wanna listen to a great drummer go out and check,this man blows all them off: MORGAN AGREN http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/Morganagren.html (here in a performance with FREDERIK THORDENDAL of MESHUGGAH) then: NEIL PEART(the greatest rock drummer ever...and i mean ever!) CHRISTIAN VANDER(MAGMA) TONY WILLIAMS DANNY CAREY(TOOL) THOMAS HAAKE(MESHUGGAH) BILL BRUFORD BRIAN "BRAIN" MANTIA and.... MIKE PORTNOY the most "overrated" musician ever...and i mean ever!!! That was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indica Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE (dimensionidol @ Dec 29 2005, 08:33 AM) and.... MIKE PORTNOY the most "overrated" musician ever...and i mean ever!!! LOL, I read through your posts and over half of them as slamming Portnoy. You aren't going to pull a Mark Chapman on him are you? This guy must have really pissed you off somewhere down the line. Hahahahaha I don't think I hate anyone that bad. Do you realize how many drummers in this world want to have a drum set like Pearts, and how many want to be the next Neil Peart? I'm sorry but I just don't understand the hatred here, it amazes me for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indica Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE (kazzman @ Dec 30 2005, 06:57 AM) QUOTE (dimensionidol @ Dec 30 2005, 03:40 AM) QUOTE (kazzman @ Dec 29 2005, 09:31 PM) QUOTE (dimensionidol @ Dec 29 2005, 01:33 PM) NEIL PEART(the greatest rock drummer ever...and i mean ever!) and.... MIKE PORTNOY the most "overrated" musician ever...and i mean ever!!! I take it you haven't heard Yngwie Malmsteen then as far as the most overrated musician goes... Malmstein overrated? That dood shreds, he's not overrated at all. I saw him live a couple times and I don't remember seeing too many guitarists that can shred like he can, he plays so clean and precise it's not funny. Not to mention a lot of these new bands that you told me about has a Malmstein kind of sound but just not quite as good. Kamelot, Nightwish, etc, etc. First thing I thought when I heard these bands are that they are Malmstein wanna bee's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indica Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE (NeilPeartFan2112 @ Dec 23 2005, 06:00 AM) QUOTE (tick @ Dec 22 2005, 11:21 PM) QUOTE (kazzman @ Dec 22 2005, 10:07 PM) QUOTE (Presto45 @ Dec 22 2005, 07:32 PM) QUOTE (floydfanatic111 @ Dec 3 2005, 06:00 PM) Greatest living rock drummers 1)Neil Peart 2)Roger Taylor of Queen 3)Phil Collins 4)Nick Mason of Pink Floyd 5)Zak Starkey 6)Scott Travis 7)Steve Smith(ex-Journey) 8)Carl Palmer 9)Bill Bruford 10)Nicko McBrain 11)Ginger Baker 12)Tommy Aldridge 13)Charlie Watts 14)Gil Moore of Triumph 15)Larry Mullen 16)Alan White 17)Dave Grohl 18)Vinny Appice 19)Bill Ward 20)Peter Criss Greatest DECEASED drummers: 1)John Bonham 2)Keith Moon 3)Eric Carr(KISS' best drummer) 4)John Panozzo 5)Cozy Powell Didnt add Mike Portnoy !!! Can't really blame him for not... you didnt add portnoy, but you have peter criss at 20! that alone gives you no credibility in my book. I doubt anyone wants to be in your book anyways. Actually, tick has a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indica Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE (dimensionidol @ Dec 30 2005, 09:48 AM) and please someone check that MORGAN AGREN guy... he was a candidate to be the Zappa's drummer when i was only 16 years old... unfortunately Zappa decide to quit touring just after he listened to him... so he is not famous... this is the moste ashaming kind of underrating.... So he was that great and since Zappa didn't want him in his band he never got famous. If he's that great then wouldn't you think he could have found another great band to join and get famous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 ill tell who sucks, peter criss, so please stop putting him in a greatest drummer thread!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indica Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 (edited) QUOTE (tick @ Dec 30 2005, 10:34 AM) ill tell who sucks, peter criss, so please stop putting him in a greatest drummer thread!!! You sound like those DT haters now. Edited December 30, 2005 by Indica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimensionidol Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE (Indica @ Dec 30 2005, 03:25 PM) If he's that great then wouldn't you think he could have found another great band to join and get famous? be famous don't mean be good... do you think Oasis are good musicians? what the hell do YOU mean? listen to him with your ears... do you think he has not enough talent? of course at least not like Portnoy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimensionidol Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE (Indica @ Dec 30 2005, 03:20 PM) Not to mention a lot of these new bands that you told me about has a Malmstein kind of sound but just not quite as good. Kamelot, Nightwish, etc, etc. don't be shy...add also DT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
launchpad67a Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE (Indica @ Dec 30 2005, 01:14 PM) QUOTE (dimensionidol @ Dec 29 2005, 08:33 AM) and.... MIKE PORTNOY the most "overrated" musician ever...and i mean ever!!! LOL, I read through your posts and over half of them as slamming Portnoy. You aren't going to pull a Mark Chapman on him are you? This guy must have really pissed you off somewhere down the line. Hahahahaha I don't think I hate anyone that bad. No Indy, he's just bitter at the world. I would be to if I wrote music like his. WOW.......that was harsh, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indica Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 (edited) QUOTE (dimensionidol @ Dec 30 2005, 02:50 PM) QUOTE (Indica @ Dec 30 2005, 03:25 PM) If he's that great then wouldn't you think he could have found another great band to join and get famous? be famous don't mean be good... do you think Oasis are good musicians? what the hell do YOU mean? listen to him with your ears... do you think he has not enough talent? of course at least not like Portnoy... What I mean is, if he is the "best drummer in the world" and he didn't get the gig with Zappa because Zappa quit playing, then since he was so great then don't you think he could have got in another band and got "Famous"? I didn't say famous means being good. At least I don't remember ever saying anything stupid like that. I will listen to him if he gets in a good band and they put out a CD. Show me some links or something. I'm not a big fan of listening to drums without music with them. A drum solo is a good time for a piss break or a good time for the rest of the band to go do some lines or something IMO. Send me a mp3 or something I will listen to him. But to me a great drummer is a great drummer. I don't think there's a best drummer in the world. I'm not one to think that you have to be famous to be good either, some of the best musicians I ever seen was people I know and they never got famous. Talent isn't measured by record sales. I'm sure the guy is a good drummer but if he was the best drummer I'm sure he could have got another gig in a popular band if that's what he wanted to do, that's all I'm saying. Don't act like I am putting the guy down because I don't think I ever heard him. What bands he play in? P.S. What does Portnoy have to do with this guy? Edited December 31, 2005 by Indica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimensionidol Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 there was a link coming with his name.... do you have checked it? it is not a solo....it is a song(coming from his solo album) played with Thordendal of Meshuggah... he usually plays with his mate mats gustaffson an amazing blind keyboard player.... i think he don't have to be in a band to be considered a talent....considering that he plays jazz7rock with experimental flavor... even Allan Holdsworth haven't a band...but we can consider him a talent...i think... here's another link: http://www.morganagren.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 (edited) QUOTE (Indica @ Dec 30 2005, 04:56 PM) QUOTE (tick @ Dec 30 2005, 10:34 AM) ill tell who sucks, peter criss, so please stop putting him in a greatest drummer thread!!! You sound like those DT haters now. not to be a hater indy, but peter criss on a best drummers list, thats insulting. and im a life long kiss fan by the way,hes just not very good. Edited December 31, 2005 by tick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qball Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Greatest: 1. John Bonham 2. Keith Moon 3. Neil Peart 4. Ginger Baker 5. Bill Bruford Favourite: 1. Danny Carey 2. Bill Bruford 3. Billy Cobham 4. Mitch Mitchell 5. John Bonham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloserToTheHEART Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 My favorites are: Neil Peart Michael Derosier Kenny Aronoff Hal Blaine Buddy Rich Keith Moon Ringo Starr Phil Collins Denny Carmassi John Bonham Ginger Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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