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He looks alright. All the pics in this thread look too shiny, though. He's a Norse God, so he needs to be a little more gritty, a little darker, as someone mentioned above. I would have just put aside the clearly plastic, retarded armor and either put him in actual animal skins and mail, or just gone with Ultimate Thor. Ultimate Thor: http://bryantosh.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/ultimate_thor.jpg

QUOTE (Mara @ Jul 12 2010, 11:01 AM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ Jul 12 2010, 11:57 AM) Why are so many people f*cked in the head? Actors and politicians especially? I guess very public professions are bad for you in general. Try to separate people's f*cked up features from their professional competence. There is no condoning what he did, but it has nothing to do with how well he preforms on-screen. I sure as hell wouldn't want to work with him. Of course, there's probably a lot of stuff I'd rather not know about some of the people with whom I have daily professional contact. Yeah, I'm not too keen on knowing people's dark secrets either.

QUOTE (workingcinderellaman @ Jul 13 2010, 09:12 AM) QUOTE (The Main Monkey Business @ Jul 11 2010, 10:35 AM) I was so pumped for this film, saw it on friday and have never been so let down by a film! what a piece of shite! so much wrong with it, hurrendous script writing, terrible acting, cringeworthy lines, completely random elements, grrrr rodriguez tried to make it very similair to the original and absolutely destroyed it, such a shame cause the concept was great and could potentially if done in the right way have been a great film. The only saving grace was that they brought back the music and soundtracks from the original, which in themselves are a masterpiece. What were you expecting? I saw it last night and in comparison to other Predator flicks, it was pretty good. Much better acting than the first one (I still liked that one as well) and way better all around than the second one. It was an entertaining movie that's worth seeing if you liked the other predator movies. If you thought the others were crap then you won't like this one. What do you mean "better acting than the original"? The squad in Predator was completely believable, whereas the mixmatch of victims in this one marched around in a single file line firing off stupid dialog, and standing in a group shooting in the same direction (somehow missing) when in combat. (you are correct in your assessment of it vs. Predator 2).

Just saw it. Not that great. Worth a view, but it's completely retarded and boring up until somewhere in the middle. Terrible script in some places, and never really gave a solid sense of "this is not Earth and we are all in terrible danger" (besides one scene where multiple moons and a gas giant are visible in the sky, that was nice). Seemed cheap. I don't think Rodriguez should have been allowed to make a movie about a Sci-Fi staple; he filled it with dumb-ass-Rodriguez-humor that served to weaken the atmosphere. It gets decent near the end, though. It's just a really good B movie, kind of like the new "Clash Of The Titans". Don't know why I reviewed this in this thread, but it's worth a trip to theater if you have the time, and definitely worth a rent.

Why are so many people f*cked in the head? Actors and politicians especially? I guess very public professions are bad for you in general. Try to separate people's f*cked up features from their professional competence. There is no condoning what he did, but it has nothing to do with how well he preforms on-screen.

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 26 2010, 05:34 PM) QUOTE (Slaine mac Roth @ Jun 26 2010, 05:27 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 26 2010, 07:35 PM) All these modern vampire shows suck, and none of them are scary, the vampire genre has been raped by Hollywood, I think it began with Buffy, but that was an entertaining show. I'll disagree slightly with that - the blame needs laying, squarely, at the feet of Anne Rice Never read her stuff but Interview with a Vampire the film was cringeworthy, a piece of puke with the wooden top acting of Cruise and Pitt floating in the mess... Whoa, there, Lestat is a more terrifying creature than most anything else that has been called a Vampire. Anne Rice's Vampires are complex characters, but that doesn't make them any less unnerving or inherently evil. The Interview with the vampire was not a bad movie. Lestat, hell, even Louie would tear the Twighlight pussies limb from limb. Her creatures are Damned and terrible things that burn to ash in sunlight; you need to check your facts.

Near the end of last year's Star Trek when Spock is piloting the Jellyfish in the collision course with the Narada, and the Enterprise comes out of warp with all guns blazing. One of the most badass scenes I've ever seen, made me want to

The book of Eli was far from brilliant. It could have easily been brilliant, but they f*cked it up pretty bad. Denzel Washington was note perfect throughout the movie, as were most of the cast, but the movie itself needs serious retooling. Mostly continuity issues. They had a great concept, but it got screwed in production.

QUOTE (Mandalorian Hunter @ May 14 2010, 05:40 PM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ May 14 2010, 10:34 PM) QUOTE (Mandalorian Hunter @ May 14 2010, 04:14 AM) QUOTE (Andrew1 @ May 14 2010, 01:56 AM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ May 13 2010, 08:26 PM) QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ May 13 2010, 08:10 AM) QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ May 12 2010, 06:55 AM) QUOTE (Mandalorian Hunter @ May 12 2010, 04:04 AM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ May 11 2010, 11:45 PM) Also, "Just a movie" is not an excuse. If something doesn't work, it doesn't work. The setting is in what year? I think that combat craft would have glass capable of resisting Thundercat-Smurf arrows by then. BTW, "Exit wounds" are those things that happen when a projectile exits the other side of the object that it comes in contact with. Futuristic weapons would do that sort of thing to the blue f*cks. Again. IT IS SCI-FI. SCIENCE-FICTION. MEANING IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TRUE. NOTE THE FICTION PART. How boring would Star Wars be without noises in space. How boring would the last Star Trek have been without noises in space (even if it did stick to it for a while). Stuff like this happens in movies all the time so get used to it. If you want realism, well, it's right outside your door. And graphic exit wounds on a film Cameron intended all to see (including kids)? Yeah, that's a really good way to getting loads of money. In addition, I can't believe you're having a dig at the science in this Cameron film, and you've seen his others, and you seem astounded it could be so bad in Avatar. Time-Travel? Load of balls. Aliens and all that stuff in space? Give me a break, it 'doesn't work' (as you say) now, so how can it work in the next century. Also, how do you know Glass will be a great deal stronger in that time? You can't have a go at a film about a fact you don't even know about yet. I agree with this post 100%. It's sci-fi. You have to suspend disbelief since many of these technologies either don't yet exist (and may never) or don't exist in the future the way it does now. Either way, sitting back and analyzing a film like this is ridiculous. If some of these scientific details are a big reason this film seems bunk to you (general you...no one specific), I suggest giving up entirely on the sci-fi genre and getting into something else altogether. There was an entire program devoted to the technolgies of Star Wars not too long ago and most things there are absurd at the moment. Things like a light saber with a finite "end" of its laser. Wouldn't the light just travel on??? Sound in space, which MH brought up above. Fire in space. But it's a movie. That's not an excuse, it's what it is. It's not a science documentary. Cameron made the film to be entertaining first. You can pretty much throw out the Terminator too, based on existing "time traveling" technologies and other such details that are purely and wholly speculative and hopeful at best. Still you can do that with Aliens as well. So point that criticism at his other beloved films if you're going to call out a film like Avatar for being the height of ridiculous. But what the f**k fun is that?? Is that why Cameron made Avatar...to be scientifically accurate? Here's the truth. It's a movie you either didn't like or have no interest in, so the only way to make any kind of argument is to piss all over the details of it. It's sure a lot of time devoted to something you didn't enjoy or have no interest in, which then seems more like people with chips on their shoulders and not points to make. Sorry guys, but Astromancer is right. Let's look at this using a little thing I like to call "logic": The Marines in the movie use kinetic energy weapons (that's "guns that fire bullets") so therefore the people that they have fought in the past used them, too. If they use kinetic energy weapons and are used to fighting people who use them, then the windshields on their ground and air craft would have been capable of resisting projectiles fired from kinetic energy weapons and anything capable of resisting that kind of force could easily resist an arrow fired from a bow. I can suspend my disbelief but I get pissed off when the filmmaker assumes that I'm a dumbass, which is the case here. Thank you, Mr. Aubrey. The filmmakers did assume the viewer is a dumbass. And they were right when it comes to the majority of the people who saw it.The fact is that Avatar was engineered to pander to the lowest common denominator of viewer. Not just children, that would be a different story, but to make every person to walk out of the theater feel that they had "gotten" some complex allegory which, in reality, was completely simplified and obvious. It faked being the greatest thing ever made, and the masses devour it. "So much style without substance So much stuff without style It's hard to recognize the real thing when it comes along once in a while" Avatar is not the real thing. Just style without substance. Damn dude! Are you saying that we're dumbasses? It's an arrow that went through glass. I never even thought anything about it until you brought it up a couple of days ago. You see shit like that in every movie. I see where you're coming from but some others here might not feel the same. There are some intelligent people here who liked AVATAR. I'm cool with you, but they might not be. Simply because of the "dumbass" remark. All I'm saying is be ready for the backlash. For someone whos idea of description and point-enforcement is a load of swearwords and derogatory remarks, well, I'm not going to worry about him calling me a dumbass anytime soon, if you get my meaning. Yes, talk about the speaker instead of backing your movie up. Genus, really. Later. Iv'e expended my Avahatred. I want to go talk about other stuff. I don't particularly dislike any of you. I did back the movie up. Many, many times. Unfortunately you never responded to any kind of movie discussion from me, which I guess is due to being completely and utterly stumped by most of my responses. You know, you give a silly review, people call you out, and you have no answer. Such is the way of the world though. On the subject of dumbasses though, it's genIus, not genus Okay, Mr. Mandalorian Hunter, the only way you defended the film is by saying it's ridiculous to analyze it, and offering examples of superior films with their own holes. I challenge you to find one aspect of the space travel in Alien or Aliens that isn't plausible. Your comment about Star Wars being boring without space sounds was irrelevant because it already is. Those graphic exit wounds that would have ruined it for kids? If you want a children's movie, don't include firearms. Nerfing things is shit. Also, glass would be a great deal stronger in that time because it's a great deal stronger now. Take a compound bow and go fire it at the window of an Apache attack helicopter from the appropriate Avatar glass piercing range, and see what happens. Oh, and BTW, don't criticize my spelling until you improve your wording, Mr. "that's a really good way to getting loads of money"

QUOTE (Mandalorian Hunter @ May 14 2010, 04:14 AM) QUOTE (Andrew1 @ May 14 2010, 01:56 AM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ May 13 2010, 08:26 PM) QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ May 13 2010, 08:10 AM) QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ May 12 2010, 06:55 AM) QUOTE (Mandalorian Hunter @ May 12 2010, 04:04 AM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ May 11 2010, 11:45 PM) Also, "Just a movie" is not an excuse. If something doesn't work, it doesn't work. The setting is in what year? I think that combat craft would have glass capable of resisting Thundercat-Smurf arrows by then. BTW, "Exit wounds" are those things that happen when a projectile exits the other side of the object that it comes in contact with. Futuristic weapons would do that sort of thing to the blue f*cks. Again. IT IS SCI-FI. SCIENCE-FICTION. MEANING IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TRUE. NOTE THE FICTION PART. How boring would Star Wars be without noises in space. How boring would the last Star Trek have been without noises in space (even if it did stick to it for a while). Stuff like this happens in movies all the time so get used to it. If you want realism, well, it's right outside your door. And graphic exit wounds on a film Cameron intended all to see (including kids)? Yeah, that's a really good way to getting loads of money. In addition, I can't believe you're having a dig at the science in this Cameron film, and you've seen his others, and you seem astounded it could be so bad in Avatar. Time-Travel? Load of balls. Aliens and all that stuff in space? Give me a break, it 'doesn't work' (as you say) now, so how can it work in the next century. Also, how do you know Glass will be a great deal stronger in that time? You can't have a go at a film about a fact you don't even know about yet. I agree with this post 100%. It's sci-fi. You have to suspend disbelief since many of these technologies either don't yet exist (and may never) or don't exist in the future the way it does now. Either way, sitting back and analyzing a film like this is ridiculous. If some of these scientific details are a big reason this film seems bunk to you (general you...no one specific), I suggest giving up entirely on the sci-fi genre and getting into something else altogether. There was an entire program devoted to the technolgies of Star Wars not too long ago and most things there are absurd at the moment. Things like a light saber with a finite "end" of its laser. Wouldn't the light just travel on??? Sound in space, which MH brought up above. Fire in space. But it's a movie. That's not an excuse, it's what it is. It's not a science documentary. Cameron made the film to be entertaining first. You can pretty much throw out the Terminator too, based on existing "time traveling" technologies and other such details that are purely and wholly speculative and hopeful at best. Still you can do that with Aliens as well. So point that criticism at his other beloved films if you're going to call out a film like Avatar for being the height of ridiculous. But what the f**k fun is that?? Is that why Cameron made Avatar...to be scientifically accurate? Here's the truth. It's a movie you either didn't like or have no interest in, so the only way to make any kind of argument is to piss all over the details of it. It's sure a lot of time devoted to something you didn't enjoy or have no interest in, which then seems more like people with chips on their shoulders and not points to make. Sorry guys, but Astromancer is right. Let's look at this using a little thing I like to call "logic": The Marines in the movie use kinetic energy weapons (that's "guns that fire bullets") so therefore the people that they have fought in the past used them, too. If they use kinetic energy weapons and are used to fighting people who use them, then the windshields on their ground and air craft would have been capable of resisting projectiles fired from kinetic energy weapons and anything capable of resisting that kind of force could easily resist an arrow fired from a bow. I can suspend my disbelief but I get pissed off when the filmmaker assumes that I'm a dumbass, which is the case here. Thank you, Mr. Aubrey. The filmmakers did assume the viewer is a dumbass. And they were right when it comes to the majority of the people who saw it.The fact is that Avatar was engineered to pander to the lowest common denominator of viewer. Not just children, that would be a different story, but to make every person to walk out of the theater feel that they had "gotten" some complex allegory which, in reality, was completely simplified and obvious. It faked being the greatest thing ever made, and the masses devour it. "So much style without substance So much stuff without style It's hard to recognize the real thing when it comes along once in a while" Avatar is not the real thing. Just style without substance. Damn dude! Are you saying that we're dumbasses? It's an arrow that went through glass. I never even thought anything about it until you brought it up a couple of days ago. You see shit like that in every movie. I see where you're coming from but some others here might not feel the same. There are some intelligent people here who liked AVATAR. I'm cool with you, but they might not be. Simply because of the "dumbass" remark. All I'm saying is be ready for the backlash. For someone whos idea of description and point-enforcement is a load of swearwords and derogatory remarks, well, I'm not going to worry about him calling me a dumbass anytime soon, if you get my meaning. Yes, talk about the speaker instead of backing your movie up. Genus, really. Later. Iv'e expended my Avahatred. I want to go talk about other stuff. I don't particularly dislike any of you.

QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ May 13 2010, 08:10 AM) QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ May 12 2010, 06:55 AM) QUOTE (Mandalorian Hunter @ May 12 2010, 04:04 AM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ May 11 2010, 11:45 PM) Also, "Just a movie" is not an excuse. If something doesn't work, it doesn't work. The setting is in what year? I think that combat craft would have glass capable of resisting Thundercat-Smurf arrows by then. BTW, "Exit wounds" are those things that happen when a projectile exits the other side of the object that it comes in contact with. Futuristic weapons would do that sort of thing to the blue f*cks. Again. IT IS SCI-FI. SCIENCE-FICTION. MEANING IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TRUE. NOTE THE FICTION PART. How boring would Star Wars be without noises in space. How boring would the last Star Trek have been without noises in space (even if it did stick to it for a while). Stuff like this happens in movies all the time so get used to it. If you want realism, well, it's right outside your door. And graphic exit wounds on a film Cameron intended all to see (including kids)? Yeah, that's a really good way to getting loads of money. In addition, I can't believe you're having a dig at the science in this Cameron film, and you've seen his others, and you seem astounded it could be so bad in Avatar. Time-Travel? Load of balls. Aliens and all that stuff in space? Give me a break, it 'doesn't work' (as you say) now, so how can it work in the next century. Also, how do you know Glass will be a great deal stronger in that time? You can't have a go at a film about a fact you don't even know about yet. I agree with this post 100%. It's sci-fi. You have to suspend disbelief since many of these technologies either don't yet exist (and may never) or don't exist in the future the way it does now. Either way, sitting back and analyzing a film like this is ridiculous. If some of these scientific details are a big reason this film seems bunk to you (general you...no one specific), I suggest giving up entirely on the sci-fi genre and getting into something else altogether. There was an entire program devoted to the technolgies of Star Wars not too long ago and most things there are absurd at the moment. Things like a light saber with a finite "end" of its laser. Wouldn't the light just travel on??? Sound in space, which MH brought up above. Fire in space. But it's a movie. That's not an excuse, it's what it is. It's not a science documentary. Cameron made the film to be entertaining first. You can pretty much throw out the Terminator too, based on existing "time traveling" technologies and other such details that are purely and wholly speculative and hopeful at best. Still you can do that with Aliens as well. So point that criticism at his other beloved films if you're going to call out a film like Avatar for being the height of ridiculous. But what the f**k fun is that?? Is that why Cameron made Avatar...to be scientifically accurate? Here's the truth. It's a movie you either didn't like or have no interest in, so the only way to make any kind of argument is to piss all over the details of it. It's sure a lot of time devoted to something you didn't enjoy or have no interest in, which then seems more like people with chips on their shoulders and not points to make. Sorry guys, but Astromancer is right. Let's look at this using a little thing I like to call "logic": The Marines in the movie use kinetic energy weapons (that's "guns that fire bullets") so therefore the people that they have fought in the past used them, too. If they use kinetic energy weapons and are used to fighting people who use them, then the windshields on their ground and air craft would have been capable of resisting projectiles fired from kinetic energy weapons and anything capable of resisting that kind of force could easily resist an arrow fired from a bow. I can suspend my disbelief but I get pissed off when the filmmaker assumes that I'm a dumbass, which is the case here. Thank you, Mr. Aubrey. The filmmakers did assume the viewer is a dumbass. And they were right when it comes to the majority of the people who saw it.The fact is that Avatar was engineered to pander to the lowest common denominator of viewer. Not just children, that would be a different story, but to make every person to walk out of the theater feel that they had "gotten" some complex allegory which, in reality, was completely simplified and obvious. It faked being the greatest thing ever made, and the masses devour it. "So much style without substance So much stuff without style It's hard to recognize the real thing when it comes along once in a while" Avatar is not the real thing. Just style without substance.

Rocked the house. Loved the suits, love RDJ as Stark, loved Mickey Roark, even loved the Triangulum. Coolest battle scenes iv'e ever seen in a super hero movie (even if they were short, fights between armament like that wouldn't last long). Only thing i don't know about is Scarllet Johanson's Black Widow portrayal. She's supposed to be a lot more Russian, but her fight sequences were beautiful. (SPOILER ALERT) Question: Was Mjolnir out in New Mexico because it fell from Asgard, was it excavated, was Thor fighting someone or something and separated from it? Not a plot hole, just an interesting topic. Theories, please. Continuity questions: (not bashing the film, just wondering). Alright, first of all, how was Pepper able to lug the case that folds out into Stark's portable suit. Could be some kind of ultra light polymer or alloy, but it looked pretty heavy. Theories, please. Second of all, if the arc reactor in Stark's chest is killing him, why not just use another power source? If you remember, the only reason he had it there was to power an electromagnet to keep the shrapnel out of his heart, right? Stark tech could easily provide a battery that lasts weeks, if not months at a time for that purpose. Or, better yet, remove the shrapnel. Hell, it's the Marvel universe, Reed f***ing Richards could do it. Unless there is something i don't remember, it was just to provide juice to the magnet. Once again, theories please. (one good one iv'e heard was that Stark's body had become dependent on the reactor somehow).

QUOTE (Andrew1 @ May 11 2010, 08:19 PM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ May 11 2010, 07:45 PM) QUOTE (Andrew1 @ May 11 2010, 05:33 PM)QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ May 11 2010, 07:57 AM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ May 10 2010, 07:46 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ May 8 2010, 06:14 PM)QUOTE (Astromancer @ May 8 2010, 03:30 PM)Wow, really? f**k this movie. Very, very disappointed in Cameron. I've seen every Cameron film except Titanic, and this was just a flashy dud. Weak dialog, WEAKER story, weak "allegory", weak space marines. Watch Aliens, okay? The space marines in that movie would have had Navi hanging upside down, skinned, from goddamned soul trees. PS: How the f**k did the Smurf's arrows pierce the windows of the gunships? How did that one pilot bitch go "I didn't sign up for this", and fly away without being shot down or court marshaled? How did the protagonist ass block the Kernel dickhead's mechsuit at the end of the movie without being turned into a big blue stain(I know they have carbon fiber level of strength bones, it wouldn't have helped that much)? How did the floating mountains float? Where were the exit wounds(i don't care about the rating)? Why are so many people Avatards? Hmmm, it sounds like maybe this movie would be more appropriate for you? http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u170/Triskaidekaphobe/2008-03-27/AngerManagementPoster.jpg Go watch "The Land Before Time", that's about as appropriate for an Avatar fan as anything else, based on the plot. A simple plot doesn't necessarily make a dumb or unsuccessful (in terms of ability to convey it properly) or unenjoyable film. The basic story of Star Wars, for instance, is very simple....not terribly original...and rooted in archetypes you can pick and pluck from dozens of classic. That's also the reason the film is so accessible, because it's not lost up its own ass with convoluted ideas and pretentiousness. Both films are visual marvels which is a good thing, since film is a visual medium. Oh man! I'm chomping at the bit! I can't wait to respond to this! O.K. dude, where do I start? ALIENS is one of my favorite movies by the way. Kick-ass movie. I'm with you on that one. You've never seen Titanic? Statistically, you should have seen it by accident after 10 years. What have you been doing for the past decade? Studying mountain gorillas in Africa? Anyway..... I'm guessing the arrows pierced the glass of the gunships because they hit dead on. Trajectory? Line of sight? Physics? Fantasy? Just a movie maybe? The Navi' are 10 feet high and obviously much stronger. Can you imagine the draw-back force on one of those bows? Here's one for you? How did the APC in ALIENS blow a trans-axle by going over a bump? That was a lot worse if you want to get technical. Next...the "space-marines" you refered to in AVATAR are not Marines at all. They're mercenaries on contract. Given, a lot of them are ex-military but this isn't a military operation. It's the RDA's baby. They call the shots. When Trudy abandoned her post during the attack on Hometree, she didn't break any rules so no action was taken against her. Also, she piloted a transport and not a 'Scorpion' gunship. So why was she even there you ask? Because it was supposed to be a shock and awe campaign. They were sending a message so they brought everything to appear more menacing I guess. The mountains float because they contain huge amounts of unobtainium. Unobtainium floats. The blow the protagonist Jake takes from "Kernel" Colonel Quarithch's AMP-suit? Low gravity probably reduced the downforce and he deflected it off to the side instead of taking the full force of the blow. Good move. Jake is an ex-marine you know. I don't know what you're talking about when you mention "exit-wounds" though, but I'm sure I have an explanation. What else do you have for me? This is James Cameron's world anyway. Stop picking the movie apart and just enjoy it for what it is. An entertaining film and one I thought was well written. So what about that APC's trans-axle in ALIENS? And why didn't they keep extra magazines for the pulse rifles on it? I can go all day long with this shit. Do your worst..... The APC in Aliens rolled over a lot of Xenomorphs, which, if you'll remember have concentrated acid for blood. Seems like that would f**k up a trans axle, huh? There was probably a clip shortage because Goreman was an asshole, but if you'll remember, they all had loaded pulse rifles in the rest of the scenes where they were still alive (albeit, that's not many scenes). Also, if Unobtainium floats, why where the samples in the mercenaries base just f***ing rocks? They didn't float. Your magical force deflecting protagonist would have been ripped apart by COLONEL Archetype's mech, no matter low the gravity. If your in even zero gravity, an object with high speed and large mass still has speed and mass. In fact, in lower gravity the mech would swing even faster and easier. If Blue bastard's strong bones somehow didn't break from a hit, they would have been disconnected, completely intact, from the rest of his body. Also, "Just a movie" is not an excuse. If something doesn't work, it doesn't work. The setting is in what year? I think that combat craft would have glass capable of resisting Thundercat-Smurf arrows by then. BTW, "Exit wounds" are those things that happen when a projectile exits the other side of the object that it comes in contact with. Futuristic weapons would do that sort of thing to the blue f*cks. P.S.- Dances With Smurfs featuring Hornets from Halo 3 and Mechassault Very good possibility on acid eating up the trans-axle. But I figure if the tires were just smoldering when the APC rolled to a stop, then the trans-axle should have been O.K.. You don't have to remind me about the aliens having acid for blood. I am an Alien fanatic (just the first two movies though), anything after ALIENS was an embarrassment to the franchise. Did you know Ridley Scott is directing an Alien prequel? Really looking forward to that one. Can't wait... Yes, I also know that Gorman ordered Apone to collect magazines from everybody. Here's what I'm getting at....If the APC was carrying automatic motion-sensored cannons that they set up outside the barricades, I would think they would also have extra munitions. Pulse rifle magazines, extra tanks for the flame-throwers, etc.. Here's another one off the top of my head...Why did Ripley take just one magazine with her when she went after Newt? I NEVER could figure that one out. Anyway.... I'm not recalling the scene you're talking about in the base where the rocks weren't floating. But I did say the mountains contained "huge" quantities of unobtainium. Maybe the rocks in the movie contained small amounts and they were outweighed by the rest? Come on man! We don't know how strong the Navi' are. They're alien. Remember in ALIENS when the xenomorphs were busting down welded, steel doors with their bare hands? Same thing with AVATAR isn't it? BTW, I know what exit-wounds are. I just didn't know what scene you were talking about where ther should have been some. Dude, I understand you didn't like it and that's cool. I just like talking about shit like this. I hope you're not getting to bent out of shape over this! There should be a James Cameron 'Mythbusters'! My god! I'm a genius! Avatar is regurgitated characters, weak ass dialog, and giant Smurfs. Continuity issues in fake science can be dealt with, I know of a great many in Terminator and T2, but they are what you call GOOD. Good Cameron films. Good characters, good dialog, a story that compels. I was waiting for Avatar, in all it's digital superglory, to END. When you find yourself sitting in a theater watching a movie instead of being IN the story, with the characters, something is wrong. Avatar was pretty, like an ornate plate that comes apart when you try to eat off of it, or in this case, get into the story. WEAK. BTW: James Cameron Mythbusters =

QUOTE (Andrew1 @ May 11 2010, 05:33 PM)QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ May 11 2010, 07:57 AM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ May 10 2010, 07:46 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ May 8 2010, 06:14 PM)QUOTE (Astromancer @ May 8 2010, 03:30 PM)Wow, really? f**k this movie. Very, very disappointed in Cameron. I've seen every Cameron film except Titanic, and this was just a flashy dud. Weak dialog, WEAKER story, weak "allegory", weak space marines. Watch Aliens, okay? The space marines in that movie would have had Navi hanging upside down, skinned, from goddamned soul trees. PS: How the f**k did the Smurf's arrows pierce the windows of the gunships? How did that one pilot bitch go "I didn't sign up for this", and fly away without being shot down or court marshaled? How did the protagonist ass block the Kernel dickhead's mechsuit at the end of the movie without being turned into a big blue stain(I know they have carbon fiber level of strength bones, it wouldn't have helped that much)? How did the floating mountains float? Where were the exit wounds(i don't care about the rating)? Why are so many people Avatards? Hmmm, it sounds like maybe this movie would be more appropriate for you? http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u170/Triskaidekaphobe/2008-03-27/AngerManagementPoster.jpg Go watch "The Land Before Time", that's about as appropriate for an Avatar fan as anything else, based on the plot. A simple plot doesn't necessarily make a dumb or unsuccessful (in terms of ability to convey it properly) or unenjoyable film. The basic story of Star Wars, for instance, is very simple....not terribly original...and rooted in archetypes you can pick and pluck from dozens of classic. That's also the reason the film is so accessible, because it's not lost up its own ass with convoluted ideas and pretentiousness. Both films are visual marvels which is a good thing, since film is a visual medium. Oh man! I'm chomping at the bit! I can't wait to respond to this! O.K. dude, where do I start? ALIENS is one of my favorite movies by the way. Kick-ass movie. I'm with you on that one. You've never seen Titanic? Statistically, you should have seen it by accident after 10 years. What have you been doing for the past decade? Studying mountain gorillas in Africa? Anyway..... I'm guessing the arrows pierced the glass of the gunships because they hit dead on. Trajectory? Line of sight? Physics? Fantasy? Just a movie maybe? The Navi' are 10 feet high and obviously much stronger. Can you imagine the draw-back force on one of those bows? Here's one for you? How did the APC in ALIENS blow a trans-axle by going over a bump? That was a lot worse if you want to get technical. Next...the "space-marines" you refered to in AVATAR are not Marines at all. They're mercenaries on contract. Given, a lot of them are ex-military but this isn't a military operation. It's the RDA's baby. They call the shots. When Trudy abandoned her post during the attack on Hometree, she didn't break any rules so no action was taken against her. Also, she piloted a transport and not a 'Scorpion' gunship. So why was she even there you ask? Because it was supposed to be a shock and awe campaign. They were sending a message so they brought everything to appear more menacing I guess. The mountains float because they contain huge amounts of unobtainium. Unobtainium floats. The blow the protagonist Jake takes from "Kernel" Colonel Quarithch's AMP-suit? Low gravity probably reduced the downforce and he deflected it off to the side instead of taking the full force of the blow. Good move. Jake is an ex-marine you know. I don't know what you're talking about when you mention "exit-wounds" though, but I'm sure I have an explanation. What else do you have for me? This is James Cameron's world anyway. Stop picking the movie apart and just enjoy it for what it is. An entertaining film and one I thought was well written. So what about that APC's trans-axle in ALIENS? And why didn't they keep extra magazines for the pulse rifles on it? I can go all day long with this shit. Do your worst..... The APC in Aliens rolled over a lot of Xenomorphs, which, if you'll remember have concentrated acid for blood. Seems like that would f**k up a trans axle, huh? There was probably a clip shortage because Goreman was an asshole, but if you'll remember, they all had loaded pulse rifles in the rest of the scenes where they were still alive (albeit, that's not many scenes). Also, if Unobtainium floats, why where the samples in the mercenaries base just f***ing rocks? They didn't float. Your magical force deflecting protagonist would have been ripped apart by COLONEL Archetype's mech, no matter low the gravity. If your in even zero gravity, an object with high speed and large mass still has speed and mass. In fact, in lower gravity the mech would swing even faster and easier. If Blue bastard's strong bones somehow didn't break from a hit, they would have been disconnected, completely intact, from the rest of his body. Also, "Just a movie" is not an excuse. If something doesn't work, it doesn't work. The setting is in what year? I think that combat craft would have glass capable of resisting Thundercat-Smurf arrows by then. BTW, "Exit wounds" are those things that happen when a projectile exits the other side of the object that it comes in contact with. Futuristic weapons would do that sort of thing to the blue f*cks. P.S.- Dances With Smurfs featuring Hornets from Halo 3 and Mechassault

QUOTE (rushgoober @ May 8 2010, 06:14 PM)QUOTE (Astromancer @ May 8 2010, 03:30 PM)Wow, really? f**k this movie. Very, very disappointed in Cameron. I've seen every Cameron film except Titanic, and this was just a flashy dud. Weak dialog, WEAKER story, weak "allegory", weak space marines. Watch Aliens, okay? The space marines in that movie would have had Navi hanging upside down, skinned, from goddamned soul trees. PS: How the f**k did the Smurf's arrows pierce the windows of the gunships? How did that one pilot bitch go "I didn't sign up for this", and fly away without being shot down or court marshaled? How did the protagonist ass block the Kernel dickhead's mechsuit at the end of the movie without being turned into a big blue stain(I know they have carbon fiber level of strength bones, it wouldn't have helped that much)? How did the floating mountains float? Where were the exit wounds(i don't care about the rating)? Why are so many people Avatards? Hmmm, it sounds like maybe this movie would be more appropriate for you? http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u170/Triskaidekaphobe/2008-03-27/AngerManagementPoster.jpg Go watch "The Land Before Time", that's about as appropriate for an Avatar fan as anything else, based on the plot.

And yet no one could answer any of the questions at the bottom of my post.

Wow, really? f**k this movie. Very, very disappointed in Cameron. I've seen every Cameron film except Titanic, and this was just a flashy dud. Weak dialog, WEAKER story, weak "allegory", weak space marines. Watch Aliens, okay? The space marines in that movie would have had Navi hanging upside down, skinned, from goddamned soul trees. PS: How the f**k did the Smurf's arrows pierce the windows of the gunships? How did that one pilot bitch go "I didn't sign up for this", and fly away without being shot down or court marshaled? How did the protagonist ass block the Kernel dickhead's mechsuit at the end of the movie without being turned into a big blue stain(I know they have carbon fiber level of strength bones, it wouldn't have helped that much)? How did the floating mountains float? Where were the exit wounds(i don't care about the rating)? Why are so many people Avatards?

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