ladirushfan80

I honestly would have to say the admins for without them, there would be no TRF.

 

 

You are right.

 

I would like to take this opportunity to thank whomever (is it you 73?) who started this forum and keep it going and never ask us for a dime. TRF has brought me more enjoyment and laughter than I can tell anyone. And it contains the greatest group of human beings on the face of the earth as well!

 

So, from the heart :heart: , a very big and very sincere: THANK YOU!!!

 

I sure would love to buy 73 a drink (or as many as he wants) some day.

 

First of all, if you dig far enough, you will find the story of how TRF came to be...

 

i've shared MANY drinks with all 3 admins and most of the mods here...

 

 

 

LRF, I'm pretty sure the TRF origin story has ever been posted. That has been by design

 

For me it will always be Mike2112,. our esteemed admin stepped down, as it was his idea initially, but if not for 1-0-01-0-0-1 and Ghostgirl helping him it would have taken shape or form. GG gave me my member title almost immediately and it really has littel to do with my namesake song.

 

The three of them will never know, even though I probably tell them every time I see them, how much this place means to me. They had a profound effect on my life. It is said in your darkest hour you will find out who your friends are, that is truer than I could have ever believed.

 

I can say with 100% honesty that my life would not be what it is today without the three of them.

 

Much love as ALWAYS to you and your beautiful family. This place IS a life-changer, for so many of us, but your story is special. As I keep saying (ad nauseum I'm sure) I'm not here like I wish I could be, not nearly as often as I'd like, but reading this post makes me smile and makes my heart feel happy.

 

So many wonderful things have come from my joining TRF. Our friendship is one of the best of them, Belle, along with all of the amazing people I've had the opportunity to connect with because of this little corner of the interwebs. To say TRF has significantly changed my life is the understatement of the century. To name ONE person as "The Greatest Person On This Forum" is impossible and maybe a little unfair. The Rush Forum is the greatest. Let's just say that. :)

 

You guys is all awesomeness.

 

I've always said this board is what it is because of the people who hang out here, not the people who run it. Seeing some of the TRF Originals™ hanging out here again and mixing with all the newer peeps is a reminder of that

some of the TRF Originals™ should have special badge/title/Icon all their own! we're approaching a 10 year anniversary MILESTONE man !!! :D

™

I'm

:cosmo: :cosmo: :cosmo: :cosmo:

 

Have a fabulous B-Day!!!!

:mwah: :kisshug:

I'm noticing the board is actually SLOW. I thought it was my computer, though i highly doubted it, but i installed google chrome anyway, just to see if that was the case, as well as did some computer maintenance. I don't have the best internet up where I live right now, but TRF is moving like a half dead turtle, compared to other sites that I am running fine on. Maybe that's why?

 

I check in every now and then, but as you said... not a lot of the old timers are here, and I'm just not seeing the same thing that made the place as special as it was when we were all here. And believe me, I hate saying that, cuz there were older timers than me that used to say the same thing about me and my contemporary members here. Now I guess i get it... but we PROVED our point and made things pretty fun around here. I'll keep looking and see if any of that's going on anymore. I do miss it, especially since a few friends refused to accept that facebook is pretty awesome. LOL

 

:hi:

 

 

Shouldn't you be sleeping?

 

 

:hi:

 

I will call you today at some point.

My member title isn't Dawn's Early Light for nuthin' ya know.... ;) besides... the f***ing puppy got me up... she does this every day. she's an earlier riser than i am...

damn Karma... :P

i'm off work today so i'm open! Looking forward to connecting with you today darlin! :D

I'm noticing the board is actually SLOW. I thought it was my computer, though i highly doubted it, but i installed google chrome anyway, just to see if that was the case, as well as did some computer maintenance. I don't have the best internet up where I live right now, but TRF is moving like a half dead turtle, compared to other sites that I am running fine on. Maybe that's why?

 

I check in every now and then, but as you said... not a lot of the old timers are here, and I'm just not seeing the same thing that made the place as special as it was when we were all here. And believe me, I hate saying that, cuz there were older timers than me that used to say the same thing about me and my contemporary members here. Now I guess i get it... but we PROVED our point and made things pretty fun around here. I'll keep looking and see if any of that's going on anymore. I do miss it, especially since a few friends refused to accept that facebook is pretty awesome. LOL

:hi:

yeah it's like that here in michigan.... being surrounded by lakes n all... :sigh:

I have pictures very similar to yours from last year traveling the west side of the state last 4th of july.

After being HAMMERED this past winter, we had a late, wet spring - hence the reason "mayflies" or shadflies are coming around late to the scene.

I honestly would have to say the admins for without them, there would be no TRF.

 

 

You are right.

 

I would like to take this opportunity to thank whomever (is it you 73?) who started this forum and keep it going and never ask us for a dime. TRF has brought me more enjoyment and laughter than I can tell anyone. And it contains the greatest group of human beings on the face of the earth as well!

 

So, from the heart :heart: , a very big and very sincere: THANK YOU!!!

 

I sure would love to buy 73 a drink (or as many as he wants) some day.

 

First of all, if you dig far enough, you will find the story of how TRF came to be...

 

i've shared MANY drinks with all 3 admins and most of the mods here...

 

 

 

LRF, I'm pretty sure the TRF origin story has ever been posted. That has been by design

 

For me it will always be Mike2112,. our esteemed admin stepped down, as it was his idea initially, but if not for 1-0-01-0-0-1 and Ghostgirl helping him it would have taken shape or form. GG gave me my member title almost immediately and it really has littel to do with my namesake song.

 

The three of them will never know, even though I probably tell them every time I see them, how much this place means to me. They had a profound effect on my life. It is said in your darkest hour you will find out who your friends are, that is truer than I could have ever believed.

 

I can say with 100% honesty that my life would not be what it is today without the three of them.

perhaps because i've heard the story that's why i thought it was in here some where...

and TRUTH! :goodone:

I honestly would have to say the admins for without them, there would be no TRF.

 

 

You are right.

 

I would like to take this opportunity to thank whomever (is it you 73?) who started this forum and keep it going and never ask us for a dime. TRF has brought me more enjoyment and laughter than I can tell anyone. And it contains the greatest group of human beings on the face of the earth as well!

 

So, from the heart :heart: , a very big and very sincere: THANK YOU!!!

 

I sure would love to buy 73 a drink (or as many as he wants) some day.

 

First of all, if you dig far enough, you will find the story of how TRF came to be...

 

i've shared MANY drinks with all 3 admins and most of the mods here...

 

I too, could not pick just one...

 

so THIS pic represents a few...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/amandaladi/RUSH%20stuf/pagscon08/DSCF2742.jpg

 

PARTY AT THE EXXON !!!! :haz:

 

*edited because it's been AGES since i posted a pic from photobucket to here... ha ha ha

 

Where did that happen, that you were able to get so many TRF people together at once?

 

Party at the EXXON was LEGENDARY !!!! It was in 2008 at PNC Bank Arts Center in Holmdel, NJ. We had TRF peeps from ALL OVER THE WORLD at this gig man.

 

 

it was epic.

 

Yay!

 

Who's who in the pic?

I'm way in the background....

 

I found another one in the PAGSCON thread with Necro in this one...

 

http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll455/edtguy/ExxonTailgate07122008.jpg

 

it'll take me a few to name everyone...

lets see, theres: ladirushfan80, sundog, Digital man, Ghost Girl, 73, Blonde 77th, troutman, different strings, hatchet axe & saw, the sweet science, failte, Ceej. Necro, Test 4 vital signs, Pags, Pass The Ammunition, Natch, Slacker, Geddys Mullet, metaldad, Lost in Xanadu ... who am i missing? did i get everyone? who took the dang picture???

 

Tick and MetalDad (I think).

 

Which one is LIX??

OMG!!!!!!!!!! you're right i TOTALLY forgot TICK!!!

egads.. time for me to STOP baking the rolls.... :smoke:

I honestly would have to say the admins for without them, there would be no TRF.

 

 

You are right.

 

I would like to take this opportunity to thank whomever (is it you 73?) who started this forum and keep it going and never ask us for a dime. TRF has brought me more enjoyment and laughter than I can tell anyone. And it contains the greatest group of human beings on the face of the earth as well!

 

So, from the heart :heart: , a very big and very sincere: THANK YOU!!!

 

I sure would love to buy 73 a drink (or as many as he wants) some day.

 

First of all, if you dig far enough, you will find the story of how TRF came to be...

 

i've shared MANY drinks with all 3 admins and most of the mods here...

 

I too, could not pick just one...

 

so THIS pic represents a few...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/amandaladi/RUSH%20stuf/pagscon08/DSCF2742.jpg

 

PARTY AT THE EXXON !!!! :haz:

 

*edited because it's been AGES since i posted a pic from photobucket to here... ha ha ha

 

Where did that happen, that you were able to get so many TRF people together at once?

 

Party at the EXXON was LEGENDARY !!!! It was in 2008 at PNC Bank Arts Center in Holmdel, NJ. We had TRF peeps from ALL OVER THE WORLD at this gig man.

 

 

it was epic.

 

Yay!

 

Who's who in the pic?

I'm way in the background....

I found another one in the PAGSCON thread with Necro in this one...

http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll455/edtguy/ExxonTailgate07122008.jpg

it'll take me a few to name everyone...

lets see, theres: ladirushfan80, sundog, Digital man, Ghost Girl, 73, Blonde 77th, troutman, different strings, hatchet axe & saw, the sweet science, failte, Ceej. Necro, Test 4 vital signs, Pags, Pass The Ammunition, Natch, Slacker, Geddys Mullet, metaldad, Lost in Xanadu ... who am i missing? did i get everyone? who took the dang picture???

I honestly would have to say the admins for without them, there would be no TRF.

 

 

You are right.

 

I would like to take this opportunity to thank whomever (is it you 73?) who started this forum and keep it going and never ask us for a dime. TRF has brought me more enjoyment and laughter than I can tell anyone. And it contains the greatest group of human beings on the face of the earth as well!

 

So, from the heart :heart: , a very big and very sincere: THANK YOU!!!

 

I sure would love to buy 73 a drink (or as many as he wants) some day.

 

First of all, if you dig far enough, you will find the story of how TRF came to be...

 

i've shared MANY drinks with all 3 admins and most of the mods here...

 

I too, could not pick just one...

 

so THIS pic represents a few...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/amandaladi/RUSH%20stuf/pagscon08/DSCF2742.jpg

 

PARTY AT THE EXXON !!!! :haz:

 

*edited because it's been AGES since i posted a pic from photobucket to here... ha ha ha

 

Where did that happen, that you were able to get so many TRF people together at once?

Party at the EXXON was LEGENDARY !!!! It was in 2008 at PNC Bank Arts Center in Holmdel, NJ. We had TRF peeps from ALL OVER THE WORLD at this gig man.

it was epic.

I honestly would have to say the admins for without them, there would be no TRF.

 

 

You are right.

 

I would like to take this opportunity to thank whomever (is it you 73?) who started this forum and keep it going and never ask us for a dime. TRF has brought me more enjoyment and laughter than I can tell anyone. And it contains the greatest group of human beings on the face of the earth as well!

 

So, from the heart :heart: , a very big and very sincere: THANK YOU!!!

 

I sure would love to buy 73 a drink (or as many as he wants) some day.

First of all, if you dig far enough, you will find the story of how TRF came to be...

i've shared MANY drinks with all 3 admins and most of the mods here...

I too, could not pick just one...

so THIS pic represents a few...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/amandaladi/RUSH%20stuf/pagscon08/DSCF2742.jpg

PARTY AT THE EXXON !!!! :haz:

*edited because it's been AGES since i posted a pic from photobucket to here... ha ha ha

Tick

 

Hilda,

 

And every one who attended Pagscon!! :dweez: :7up: :haz: :D :rush:

 

Hilda! That's right. Babycat is still searching for her.

 

Who isn't? :P

uhm... i thought we FOUND her....?

I recently found this show while searching for something to watch on Hulu...

ended up watching all of the episodes hulu had in one sitting.... cracking up the whole time.

How did i not know this existed? It's been on You Tube for a while i guess as i was so informed by my 23 yr old...

omg... this shit is hilarious.

About

And that's the thing i love about this show - the reenactments are what make it so funny.

here's a short clip ya'll can check out.

Take a look at how Patty Hearst(Kristen Wiig) was kidnapped and brainwashed by the Symbionese Liberation Army.

http://on.cc.com/QDxxPN

Soda Farls with tuna fish.

 

Explain please!

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_KMqabHJVXk/TxVSWFW4UWI/AAAAAAAADH4/S73Bham3tBY/s1600/100_1812.JPG

 

http://www.channel4.com/media/images/Channel4/4Food/ontv/lakes_on_a_plate/recipes/soda_farls_ahero_A1.jpg chttp://bakingbites.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/farl-skilletscones.jpg

 

so it's like an Irish soda bread?

 

I just finished a shitton of pineapple that i cut up this morning....

 

Is that the same as a sh**load of pineapple?

I think that's it. :hail:

shit -ton is my favourite unit of measurement

Soda Farls with tuna fish.

 

Explain please!

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_KMqabHJVXk/TxVSWFW4UWI/AAAAAAAADH4/S73Bham3tBY/s1600/100_1812.JPG

 

http://www.channel4.com/media/images/Channel4/4Food/ontv/lakes_on_a_plate/recipes/soda_farls_ahero_A1.jpg chttp://bakingbites.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/farl-skilletscones.jpg

so it's like an Irish soda bread?

I just finished a shitton of pineapple that i cut up this morning....

Any suggestions on ideas for recipes? I don't want to go vegan but I would like to eat a little healthier.

:bump:

i live in a vegan - gluten free household so i'm always on the lookout for tasty new ways to enjoy food. :)

there's a plethora of blogs that are filled with wonderful vegan dishes.

below i will post a few of my favourite recipe blogs i follow and a few cookbooks that we use quite regularly.

http://www.theveganhousehold.com/

http://allaboutveganfood.com/

http://www.theveganwoman.com/

http://www.olivesfordinner.com/

http://www.allysonkramer.com/

http://www.amazon.co...ow it all vegan

http://www.amazon.co...GJM8V9VFQXGK9NP

http://www.amazon.co...free vegan eats

http://www.amazon.co...nscious kitchen

Not sure who this comment is directed at... no bother. i'll try to explain where i'm coming from further. but no where in my previous post did i say anything about being self centered. All i was trying to convey is that when a persons actions come with any kind of expectation, and the expectation is then not fulfilled, you are then disappointed. those feelings are yours and yours alone. you control those. Not the actions (or lack thereof) of other individuals.

you can avoid said disappointment by not expecting anything from a person when performing any kind of action. Give of yourself freely - out of love, care, concern for humankind, and be content or at peace with yourself that you are a person with integrity, compassion & empathy.

 

and for the record, i am far from a troll.. i am an (almost) 10 year veteran of this board.

I can't believe someone thought you were a troll Amy! :o :o :o :o :o

 

:o

 

:o

 

:o

 

:o

 

 

 

:o

i know, right?

:eyeroll: :sigh:

Not sure who this comment is directed at... no bother. i'll try to explain where i'm coming from further. but no where in my previous post did i say anything about being self centered. All i was trying to convey is that when a persons actions come with any kind of expectation, and the expectation is then not fulfilled, you are then disappointed. those feelings are yours and yours alone. you control those. Not the actions (or lack thereof) of other individuals.

you can avoid said disappointment by not expecting anything from a person when performing any kind of action. Give of yourself freely - out of love, care, concern for humankind, and be content or at peace with yourself that you are a person with integrity, compassion & empathy.

and for the record, i am far from a troll.. i am an (almost) 10 year veteran of this board.

Living in a (virtually) vegan gluten free household. My daughter was the first one who actually made the conscious decision to change her lifestyle to that of a gluten free vegan. I've been feeling guided to go that route as well for some time now, there is energy in the things we digest... and mostly followed along... old habits die hard especially eating/drinking habits!

I was recently diagnosed with RA (rheumatoid arthritis) and the Dr recommended following a paleo diet plan. In my research though it would mean cutting out nuts, seed, beans, lentils - all of which i LOVE and some even help with some RA symptoms...

not 100 % gluten free vegan, but i'm getting there... a work in progress... :) it's a more laborious lifestyle choice - especially with the gluten - which when i'm not flaring i'm OK with.

We've made tons of vegan gluten free pizza's, pot pie, fruit pies, breads, cookies, brownies, cinnamon rolls was our latest triumph.

one of my favourite SAYIN's is:

Plant an expectation, Reap a disappointment.

your disappointment with someone for having not lived up to what you were expecting has nothing to do with them, and everything to do with you.

Call or txt the friend so you know that the gift was received. Be done.

Feel good within yourself for having done something nice and be done.

another good sayin' is:

Just because someone doesn't love you the way you want, doesn't mean he doesn't love you with everything he has.

I ran into 2 of his acquaintances. I didn’t know them. They put me through the third degree and gave me a really hard time just for being there.

 

Next time you encounter these two D-bags, have your Taser with you.....and USE it..... ;)

 

Finding real friends used to be fairly easy. Not in today's world. So much narcissism, self-centeredness, and eroding social skills.......good people such as yourself are an endangered species. :o

What's wrong with this? And, I'd argue that one gives to make oneself feel better. Also, isn't the OP being self-centered for expecting a thank you card? Of course she is, and that is why she gave in the first place, and I don't see anything wrong with that. No one has friends for altruistic purposes. They have friends to make themselves happy. Hopefully, the friendship is reciprocal, and both parties are happier having friendship with one another.

I'd also argue that if you're looking for virtuous people to be friends with, you'll only find 4 or 5 of those in this entire life.

 

I would consider myself very lucky, I have a significantly more than 4 or 5 of those people in my life. I think you are being a bit cynical. I have seen way too much good in people in my life. To me, love is wanting what is best for another person. If you are wanting something in return for your deed, that is not necessarily bad, but its not really loving, its more reciprocal like you said.

it's conditional love, not unconditional love...

Mara I'm as white as they come (red hair genes) I use Coconut oil to actually brown a bit with the sun naturally. It doesn't burn me and makes me a lil darker. Self tanners I use the Jergen's lotion with tint added for a lil colour. It's not striking and it's easy to apply and doesn't make you look orange. I stay away from cancerous tanning beds like mad.

 

 

the chemicals in self tanners and skin lotions are harmful - toxic even. and this company tests on animals... :(

 

Mara, you're better off spending 10-15 minutes a day in natural sunlight with no commercial sunscreen on. most you want to build up to without protection is 30 minutes. any longer than that & use a natural sunscreen. absorb that Vitamin D girl! it does a body good - literally!

 

Don't care about the chemicals as long as we're not talking excessive amounts of, say, arsenic (an element, technically) or cyanide. I mainline aspartame, which according to some people is akin to snorting ricin (despite scads of research indicating otherwise and the fact that the stuff's been around for 30+ years without being directly linked to a spike in cancer). Tap water is also full of chemicals but I shower in it daily. Oh well.

I may need to rethink based on the animal testing, though. I have a choice - they do not. (But is that hypocritical of me given that I eat meat)?

 

I'm not doing unprotected sun exposure to tan. Am not. I am watching a family lose its husband and father far too young from melanoma. He wasn't a "sun worshiper" at all, but having fair skin and living in Arizona triggered that sequence that is going to kill him.

 

first this: - http://theunboundeds...sunscreen-myth/

 

According to a June 2014 article featured in The Independent (UK), a major study conducted by researchers at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden found that women who avoid sunbathing during the summer are twice as likely to die as those who sunbathe every day.

The epidemiological study followed 30,000 women for over 20 years and “showed that mortality was about double in women who avoided sun exposure compared to the highest exposure group.”

Researchers concluded that the conventional dogma, which advises avoiding the sun at all costs and slathering on sunscreen to minimize sun exposure, is doing more harm than actual good.

 

That’s because overall sun avoidance combined with wearing sunscreen effectively blocks the body’s ability to produce vitamin D3 from the sun’s UVB rays, which is by far the best form of vitamin D.

In the USA, vitamin D deficiency is at epidemic levels. Ironically, vitamin D deficiency can lead to aggressive forms of skin cancer. A ground-breaking 2011 study published in Cancer Prevention Research suggests that optimal blood levels of vitamin D offers protection against sunburn and skin cancer.

Additionally, vitamin D protects the body from diseases like multiple sclerosis, rickets (in the young), tuberculosis, inflammatory bowel disease, type 1 diabetes, inflammatory bowel disease, rheumatoid arthritis, systemic lupus erythematosus and Sjogren’s syndrome.

According to the Vitamin D Council, researchers at the University of Alabama at Birmingham recently reported that “lack of sun exposure may lead to cognitive decline over time.”

A dissident dermatologist

 

Bernard Ackerman, MD, (deceased 2008) was one of the world’s foremost authorities on the subject of skin cancer and the sun, sunscreens and melanoma skin cancer risks.

Below are Ackerman’s views excerpted from an article in The New York Times (July 20, 2004), titled “I BEG TO DIFFER; A Dermatologist Who’s Not Afraid to Sit on the Beach”:

The link between melanoma and sun exposure (dermatology’s dogma) is unproven.There’s no conclusive evidence that sunburns lead to cancer.There is no real proof that sunscreens protect against melanoma.There’s no proof that increased exposure to the sun increases the risk of melanoma.

A 2000 Swedish study concluded that higher rates of melanoma occurred in those who used sunscreen versus those who did not.

Sunscreens: Cancer-Causing Biohazards

 

Elizabeth Plourde, PhD, is a California-based scientist who authored the book Sunscreens – Biohazard: Treat as Hazardous Waste, which extensively documents the serious life-threatening dangers of sunscreens not only to people but to the environment as well.

Dr. Plourde provides proof that malignant melanoma and all other skin cancers increased significantly with ubiquitous sunscreen use over a 30-year period. She emphasizes that many sunscreens contain chemicals that are known carcinogens and endocrine-disrupting chemicals (EDC).

Environmentally, she notes: “In areas where there has been much exposure to ED [endocrine disrupting] chemicals, coral and other sea populations have died off and the prevalence of dual-sexed fish has risen.”

Dr. Plourde’s research on mice and sunscreen exposure also showed increases in both pup and maternal mortality as well as reproductive issues in subsequent generations.

Additionally, the book documents how sunscreen chemicals have polluted our water sources including oceans, rivers and municipal drinking water. Worse yet, testing revealed that 97% of Americans have sunscreen chemicals in their blood!

Dr. Plourde’s book also has a chapter on the importance of vitamin D3 to health, and she posits that the widespread vitamin D3 deficiency is linked to overuse of sunscreen combined with sun avoidance in general.

Sources:

http://www.independent.co.uk

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org

http://www.nytimes.com

http://www.faim.org

https://www.vitamindcouncil.org

http://science.naturalnews.com

Credit: “Compelling evidence: Slathering on toxic sunscreen and avoiding the sun could jeopardize your health and shorten your life,” from naturalnews.com, by Paul Fassa

 

It has become my belief based on a shit ton of research that absorbing all of these chemicals is a contributing factor and quite possibly a cause to cancer - not a preventative measure. there are natural sunscreens you can purchase and even make yourself...

 

In my opinion, it is not hypocritical to consume meat and want to support no more animal testing... i feel it does depend on where you choose purchase said animal products. and for the record, L'Oreal is one of them who does test on animals... http://www.mediapeta...aniesdotest.pdf

 

 

 

i could also provide documentation supporting how horrible aspartame is... and how harmful fluoridated water is... etc etc etc.

People are going to choose what they feel they want or need in their life - and i'm not one to judge or convince them otherwise. I'm just providing information...

 

it is never easy to lose loved ones nor is it easy to watch the pain and suffering of all those involved. you have my understanding, love, & support.

 

So they should take a D3 supplement.

a D or D3 supplement would help. but the best source of vitamin D is literally soaking up the sun. 10-20 minutes a day depending on where you live is all a body needs... :)

but it's more than just soaking up the sun and/or taking a supplement. it's attitude. emotions. dietary intake. exercise. state of mind. it's all connected.

You know, that's an idea. We should have t-shirts that say The Rush Forum - Exclusive Member!

 

I would represent!

Me too. I would certainly get one and wear it proudly..... :dweez:

 

So would I. Except where I am from, probably everyone would think Limbaugh. :lol:

 

It would have to be a proper T-shirt... so there is no confusion.

uhm.... there HAVE been TRF T-shirts made in the past...

i have 4 of them. this is one of them (photo courtesy of Barney Rebel)

and then this one:

Mara I'm as white as they come (red hair genes) I use Coconut oil to actually brown a bit with the sun naturally. It doesn't burn me and makes me a lil darker. Self tanners I use the Jergen's lotion with tint added for a lil colour. It's not striking and it's easy to apply and doesn't make you look orange. I stay away from cancerous tanning beds like mad.

 

 

the chemicals in self tanners and skin lotions are harmful - toxic even. and this company tests on animals... :(

 

Mara, you're better off spending 10-15 minutes a day in natural sunlight with no commercial sunscreen on. most you want to build up to without protection is 30 minutes. any longer than that & use a natural sunscreen. absorb that Vitamin D girl! it does a body good - literally!

 

Don't care about the chemicals as long as we're not talking excessive amounts of, say, arsenic (an element, technically) or cyanide. I mainline aspartame, which according to some people is akin to snorting ricin (despite scads of research indicating otherwise and the fact that the stuff's been around for 30+ years without being directly linked to a spike in cancer). Tap water is also full of chemicals but I shower in it daily. Oh well.

I may need to rethink based on the animal testing, though. I have a choice - they do not. (But is that hypocritical of me given that I eat meat)?

 

I'm not doing unprotected sun exposure to tan. Am not. I am watching a family lose its husband and father far too young from melanoma. He wasn't a "sun worshiper" at all, but having fair skin and living in Arizona triggered that sequence that is going to kill him.

first this: - http://theunboundedspirit.com/scientists-blow-the-lid-on-cancer-sunscreen-myth/

According to a June 2014 article featured in The Independent (UK), a major study conducted by researchers at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden found that women who avoid sunbathing during the summer are twice as likely to die as those who sunbathe every day.

The epidemiological study followed 30,000 women for over 20 years and “showed that mortality was about double in women who avoided sun exposure compared to the highest exposure group.”

Researchers concluded that the conventional dogma, which advises avoiding the sun at all costs and slathering on sunscreen to minimize sun exposure, is doing more harm than actual good.

That’s because overall sun avoidance combined with wearing sunscreen effectively blocks the body’s ability to produce vitamin D3 from the sun’s UVB rays, which is by far the best form of vitamin D.

In the USA, vitamin D deficiency is at epidemic levels. Ironically, vitamin D deficiency can lead to aggressive forms of skin cancer. A ground-breaking 2011 study published in Cancer Prevention Research suggests that optimal blood levels of vitamin D offers protection against sunburn and skin cancer.

Additionally, vitamin D protects the body from diseases like multiple sclerosis, rickets (in the young), tuberculosis, inflammatory bowel disease, type 1 diabetes, inflammatory bowel disease, rheumatoid arthritis, systemic lupus erythematosus and Sjogren’s syndrome.

According to the Vitamin D Council, researchers at the University of Alabama at Birmingham recently reported that “lack of sun exposure may lead to cognitive decline over time.”

A dissident dermatologist

Bernard Ackerman, MD, (deceased 2008) was one of the world’s foremost authorities on the subject of skin cancer and the sun, sunscreens and melanoma skin cancer risks.

Below are Ackerman’s views excerpted from an article in The New York Times (July 20, 2004), titled “I BEG TO DIFFER; A Dermatologist Who’s Not Afraid to Sit on the Beach”:

The link between melanoma and sun exposure (dermatology’s dogma) is unproven.There’s no conclusive evidence that sunburns lead to cancer.There is no real proof that sunscreens protect against melanoma.There’s no proof that increased exposure to the sun increases the risk of melanoma.

A 2000 Swedish study concluded that higher rates of melanoma occurred in those who used sunscreen versus those who did not.

Sunscreens: Cancer-Causing Biohazards

Elizabeth Plourde, PhD, is a California-based scientist who authored the book Sunscreens – Biohazard: Treat as Hazardous Waste, which extensively documents the serious life-threatening dangers of sunscreens not only to people but to the environment as well.

Dr. Plourde provides proof that malignant melanoma and all other skin cancers increased significantly with ubiquitous sunscreen use over a 30-year period. She emphasizes that many sunscreens contain chemicals that are known carcinogens and endocrine-disrupting chemicals (EDC).

Environmentally, she notes: “In areas where there has been much exposure to ED [endocrine disrupting] chemicals, coral and other sea populations have died off and the prevalence of dual-sexed fish has risen.”

Dr. Plourde’s research on mice and sunscreen exposure also showed increases in both pup and maternal mortality as well as reproductive issues in subsequent generations.

Additionally, the book documents how sunscreen chemicals have polluted our water sources including oceans, rivers and municipal drinking water. Worse yet, testing revealed that 97% of Americans have sunscreen chemicals in their blood!

Dr. Plourde’s book also has a chapter on the importance of vitamin D3 to health, and she posits that the widespread vitamin D3 deficiency is linked to overuse of sunscreen combined with sun avoidance in general.

Sources:

http://www.independent.co.uk

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org

http://www.nytimes.com

http://www.faim.org

https://www.vitamindcouncil.org

http://science.naturalnews.com

Credit: “Compelling evidence: Slathering on toxic sunscreen and avoiding the sun could jeopardize your health and shorten your life,” from naturalnews.com, by Paul Fassa

It has become my belief based on a shit ton of research that absorbing all of these chemicals is a contributing factor and quite possibly a cause to cancer - not a preventative measure. there are natural sunscreens you can purchase and even make yourself...

In my opinion, it is not hypocritical to consume meat and want to support no more animal testing... i feel it does depend on where you choose purchase said animal products. and for the record, L'Oreal is one of them who does test on animals... http://www.mediapeta.com/peta/pdf/companiesdotest.pdf

i could also provide documentation supporting how horrible aspartame is... and how harmful fluoridated water is... etc etc etc.

People are going to choose what they feel they want or need in their life - and i'm not one to judge or convince them otherwise. I'm just providing information...

it is never easy to lose loved ones nor is it easy to watch the pain and suffering of all those involved. you have my understanding, love, & support.