Gedneil Alpeart

QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jul 13 2012, 11:57 AM) QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Jul 13 2012, 11:55 AM) QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jul 13 2012, 12:50 PM) QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Jul 13 2012, 11:45 AM) QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jul 13 2012, 12:44 PM) QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Jul 13 2012, 11:42 AM) Tombstone, as others have been telling you, I think you're overkilling it with the reviews. You're seeking out ANY review of CA, no matter how obscure, and you're starting a thread for each of them. You've got six on the first page alone. I'm going to combine all your review threads into one. If you want to keep posting reviews, that's fine, but you have to add them to your one thread. Sure whatever works dude!!! I just counted them...you've posted 26 review threads in a month's time. Wow. Not being a smart arse, but it happens when RUSH releases a new record. Thanks for creating the one thread. Yes, we see a number of reviews posted when a new album comes out, but never this many, and never by one person intent on posting as many as he can. Once I'm done merging them all, I'll name your thread "Tombstone Mountain's Review Thread." Okie Dokie. I appreciate it, and so will the people who enjoy reading them. Keep em coming Duff, and the one thread idea makes sense.

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 13 2012, 10:35 AM) Great question as I hadn't really thought about it before, but now that I do, I can honestly say that I think NONE of them really relate to my life that closely. Even though I can relate to several songs to an extent, those only touch upon lesser aspects of my life. There is no one song that really defines who I am and where I am very well... Good point. Not everyone will be able to identify with a song on here very closely, but only a little in bits and pieces, or none at all. Maybe for the ones that can, however, that song may take on more significance and amplify their emotional experience. Music is amazing that way.....it can give you so much, but you still have a choice as to how you receive it depending on various intrinsic and extrinsic factors. Hence, so many differing opinions about the same piece.

QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jul 12 2012, 07:43 PM) QUOTE (Rushman14 @ Jul 12 2012, 07:39 PM) QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jul 12 2012, 05:08 PM) wipe the slate clean including nick and his orchestra stick. that made me i hope you weren't thinking something dirty. Butthead: Uh huh huh huh huh.....he said "wipe" and "stick" uh huh huh huh huh Beavis: Yeah....heh heh heh cool.....heh heh heh.....

QUOTE (SlyJeff @ Jul 12 2012, 07:23 PM) The massive instrument break in that song isn't enough for you? I just love that break!

QUOTE (The Lofty Oaks @ Jul 12 2012, 07:39 PM) Its only just a theory. Something that I think of when listening to to those last three songs. Just meant to spark some thought and conversation. One of the great things about Rush is the various interpretations that can be taken from their lyrics. Its always a great topic of conversation. I am enjoying reading all of the responses (good and bad) I like your attitude! Keep on rockin!

Which of the following song lyrics do you identify with most personally based on life experience or believe most strongly? For me, BU2B, Wish Them Well, and Garden resonate with me most personally. If I had to choose one, Wish Them Well would hit home the strongest. Forgiveness and letting go have been one of my greatest life challenges and this song REALLY speaks to me in a very good way. I find myself remembering these lyrics a lot when a bad memory or grudgeful feeling comes on and it does help. Im curious if anyone would choose 7 Cities. If they do, maybe they're into

Snakes- Rush sound their age Angels - Rush sound 30 years younger (ok, maybe 25 years younger.....)

Yes I love Collins and wish he'd return!

QUOTE (Gompers @ Jul 12 2012, 12:45 PM) QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jul 12 2012, 12:55 PM) And you're hoping it will fail the test of time because........? Well that's just it. I hope it doesn't fail the test of time. Unfortunately, few have been the releases since Signals that have grabbed me from the get go. Perhaps my age has made me be cautious. Time allowed releases to grow on me and let the greatness prevail, with the exception of Presto, PEW, and VT. This release has a serious issue with sonic quality, which to this day still bogs me down as it did from the start. It also is poorly mixed, IMO. I find myself straining to hear parts that should be out front. There are numerous sections where Alex or Neil do something interesting, yet it is buried under bass or the mix is plain muddy with a wall of sound, almost similar to VT. And because it is already too bassy, I am not remembering anything interesting from Ged. Regardless of the repetition I hear, like old ideas being kept alive, the freshness of the new great ideas are lost in clarity. I do not question the power and electricity of the playing. No doubt the boys are alive, especially at their ages where many artists fall into adult alternative song writing. The poor songs are tedious though. The good songs are very good. Great songs would only be the title track and HF. I think there are more truly great songs on here than Title and HF like Anarchist and Garden, but I respect your opinion. The sound issue I recognize and wish it were less loud and compressed, but it doesn't bother me as much as you or some others.

QUOTE (The Lofty Oaks @ Jul 11 2012, 09:27 PM) Please don't misunderstand me I am hoping beyond all hope that Clockwork Angels is not the last studio album released by Rush. However if it did turn out to be the band's final swan song album you cannot deny the perfect symbolic undercurrent messages of the last three songs on Clockwork Angels. Allow me to explain this theory and then you tell me if it's not just too perfect to be accidental or coincidental. Maybe I am reading too much into the situation or maybe those multifaceted diamond cut layers of perspectives are the genius of Rush. I was listening to the final quarter of the album for the umpteen hundredth time the other day when this theory crystallized in my pea sized brain. For the purposes of this exercise we need to ignore the song "BU2B2". Lets pretend like it is just an extended intro to "Wish Them Well". The last three real song on the album are "Headlong Flight", "Wish Them Well" and "The Garden". Of course I have reviewed each of these songs in-depth and in context of the concept story in earlier posts. I do not want to retrace those steps. I want to focus on the overall message, mood and meaning of each song as an individual entity outside of the Clockwork Angels concept. I contend that these three songs converge into one singular trilogy that conveys a strong set of farewell messages. READ MORE HERE I appreciate your thoughts, but I don't think those songs are intended to issue a statement, although you never know how the subconscious operates, afterall, it is NEIL who wrote those lyrics and some parts of CA may be self referencing about his life and experiences for sure. But, I don't think it's any kind of statement like you're conjecturing.

QUOTE (Gompers @ Jul 12 2012, 06:38 AM) pffftt! Take all that back. They are no over unless something godawful happens. Even if Ged loses his voice they could still put something out instrumentally. I want a children's fairy tale album by Rush.....

QUOTE (Tony R @ Jul 12 2012, 04:59 AM) Embarrassingly puerile garbage. Some Rush fans need to get a grip. Stop being so neutral and politically correct. Show a little more judgement and feeling, would ya?????

QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jul 12 2012, 12:17 PM) QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jul 12 2012, 12:03 PM) QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jul 12 2012, 10:31 AM) QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jul 12 2012, 10:24 AM) QUOTE (Gompers @ Jul 12 2012, 06:10 AM) QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jul 11 2012, 03:13 PM) QUOTE (Gompers @ Jul 11 2012, 06:41 AM)QUOTE (presto123 @ Jul 11 2012, 05:47 AM) These are stellar poll results. No way SnA would even get close to these numbers. Oh I wouldn't say that. Rate S&A Actually, the numbers illustrate just how much better CA is being received than S&A. S&A: 10 [ 5 ] [3.38%] 9 [ 16 ] [10.81%] 8 [ 41 ] [27.70%] 7 [ 37 ] [25.00%] 6 [ 16 ] [10.81%] 5 [ 13 ] [8.78%] 4 [ 8 ] [5.41%] 3 [ 2 ] [1.35%] 2 [ 5 ] [3.38%] 1 [ 5 ] [3.38%] S&A 8/9/10 ratings: 41.89% CA: 10 [ 22 ] [11.34%] 9 [ 60 ] [30.93%] 8 [ 68 ] [35.05%] 7 [ 23 ] [11.86%] 6 [ 8 ] [4.12%] 5 [ 0 ] [0.00%] 4 [ 1 ] [0.52%] 3 [ 5 ] [2.58%] 2 [ 3 ] [1.55%] 1 [ 1 ] [0.52%] 0 [ 3 ] [1.55%] CA 8/9/10 ratings: 77.32% Sure there's some honeymoon effect (halo effect) now with CA. But I really do think CA will hold up much better over time than S&A. Wow...talk about picking your data points. Overall, CA = 8.10/10 S&A = 7.36/10 I consider these pretty close. And as was mentioned quite a few times, maybe we will see what 5 years brings. S&A has already settled. CA is still in the woohoo mode. Dividing percentages and detailed data points mean a LOT more than lumping everything into means, which are heavily influenced by outliers. Regardless, time will tell, and I have a feeling CA will stand the test of time much more than SA. BTW, it sounds like you are hoping that CA will not stand the test of time and will be dragged down like SA was. When before CA came out I listened to Snakes and Arrows a lot and realized there are a handful of tracks that I love, some that are still good, and then a couple that I can do without. havi,ng said that I was pleased to have the CD because I can find the good in almost anything. CA is a quantum leap from that album. The more we inspect something the more flaws we'll discover. This album contains several all time great Rush tracks, while the rest are just merely "really freaking awesome"!!! I'm like you. I weight positives much more than negatives, which does not mean my head is in the sand. I don't like everything about CA.....esp. the loudness and compression and would have liked more keys and guitar textures. But, I go by feeling mostly and don't like to analyze or intellectualize art to death. I feel things when I listen to CA that I have not felt with a Rush album in ages. I don't subconsciosly or consciously compare CA with my own fantasy Rush album or Hemispheres. I take it for what it is and I am enjoying the HECK out of it. Others aren't and that's ok........but what we feel shouldn't be judged. The only thing I don't like is people who don't like it go out of their way to constantly put it down or minimize it.....a separate agenda than just stating their opinion, and some state their opinions to try and piss off others. I also don't appreciate fans who blindly love everything Rush puts out just because it's by Rush......there is no credibility there. But, the haters and trolls are the ones who insult and offend, while the fan boys are just annoying. Big difference. to me it's like watching a movie by Stanley Kubrick. I don't love everything about his films, yet I know that the hands of greatness and genuis sculpted the vision, thus I pay attention to detail. With CA, there is always something new...rush "paints" in the corners of this work of art. the sound thing is something that I don't reflect on very much. I've got a great system and them I have a "boom box" that I use while lounging on my decks. CA sounds good to me on anything I play it through. Yeah, the sound thing is quite subjective....some like it, some are ok with it....some let it bother them, some don't. All depends on one's tastes and experiences and expectations. I find CA louder than what I would like, but it's not so bad that it ruins my enjoyment of the great music.

QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jul 12 2012, 10:31 AM) QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jul 12 2012, 10:24 AM) QUOTE (Gompers @ Jul 12 2012, 06:10 AM) QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jul 11 2012, 03:13 PM) QUOTE (Gompers @ Jul 11 2012, 06:41 AM)QUOTE (presto123 @ Jul 11 2012, 05:47 AM) These are stellar poll results. No way SnA would even get close to these numbers. Oh I wouldn't say that. Rate S&A Actually, the numbers illustrate just how much better CA is being received than S&A. S&A: 10 [ 5 ] [3.38%] 9 [ 16 ] [10.81%] 8 [ 41 ] [27.70%] 7 [ 37 ] [25.00%] 6 [ 16 ] [10.81%] 5 [ 13 ] [8.78%] 4 [ 8 ] [5.41%] 3 [ 2 ] [1.35%] 2 [ 5 ] [3.38%] 1 [ 5 ] [3.38%] S&A 8/9/10 ratings: 41.89% CA: 10 [ 22 ] [11.34%] 9 [ 60 ] [30.93%] 8 [ 68 ] [35.05%] 7 [ 23 ] [11.86%] 6 [ 8 ] [4.12%] 5 [ 0 ] [0.00%] 4 [ 1 ] [0.52%] 3 [ 5 ] [2.58%] 2 [ 3 ] [1.55%] 1 [ 1 ] [0.52%] 0 [ 3 ] [1.55%] CA 8/9/10 ratings: 77.32% Sure there's some honeymoon effect (halo effect) now with CA. But I really do think CA will hold up much better over time than S&A. Wow...talk about picking your data points. Overall, CA = 8.10/10 S&A = 7.36/10 I consider these pretty close. And as was mentioned quite a few times, maybe we will see what 5 years brings. S&A has already settled. CA is still in the woohoo mode. Dividing percentages and detailed data points mean a LOT more than lumping everything into means, which are heavily influenced by outliers. Regardless, time will tell, and I have a feeling CA will stand the test of time much more than SA. BTW, it sounds like you are hoping that CA will not stand the test of time and will be dragged down like SA was. When before CA came out I listened to Snakes and Arrows a lot and realized there are a handful of tracks that I love, some that are still good, and then a couple that I can do without. havi,ng said that I was pleased to have the CD because I can find the good in almost anything. CA is a quantum leap from that album. The more we inspect something the more flaws we'll discover. This album contains several all time great Rush tracks, while the rest are just merely "really freaking awesome"!!! I'm like you. I weight positives much more than negatives, which does not mean my head is in the sand. I don't like everything about CA.....esp. the loudness and compression and would have liked more keys and guitar textures. But, I go by feeling mostly and don't like to analyze or intellectualize art to death. I feel things when I listen to CA that I have not felt with a Rush album in ages. I don't subconsciosly or consciously compare CA with my own fantasy Rush album or Hemispheres. I take it for what it is and I am enjoying the HECK out of it. Others aren't and that's ok........but what we feel shouldn't be judged. The only thing I don't like is people who don't like it go out of their way to constantly put it down or minimize it.....a separate agenda than just stating their opinion, and some state their opinions to try and piss off others. I also don't appreciate fans who blindly love everything Rush puts out just because it's by Rush......there is no credibility there. But, the haters and trolls are the ones who insult and offend, while the fan boys are just annoying. Big difference.

QUOTE (Gompers @ Jul 12 2012, 10:30 AM) QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jul 12 2012, 11:24 AM) QUOTE (Gompers @ Jul 12 2012, 06:10 AM) QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jul 11 2012, 03:13 PM) QUOTE (Gompers @ Jul 11 2012, 06:41 AM)QUOTE (presto123 @ Jul 11 2012, 05:47 AM) These are stellar poll results. No way SnA would even get close to these numbers. Oh I wouldn't say that. Rate S&A Actually, the numbers illustrate just how much better CA is being received than S&A. S&A: 10 [ 5 ] [3.38%] 9 [ 16 ] [10.81%] 8 [ 41 ] [27.70%] 7 [ 37 ] [25.00%] 6 [ 16 ] [10.81%] 5 [ 13 ] [8.78%] 4 [ 8 ] [5.41%] 3 [ 2 ] [1.35%] 2 [ 5 ] [3.38%] 1 [ 5 ] [3.38%] S&A 8/9/10 ratings: 41.89% CA: 10 [ 22 ] [11.34%] 9 [ 60 ] [30.93%] 8 [ 68 ] [35.05%] 7 [ 23 ] [11.86%] 6 [ 8 ] [4.12%] 5 [ 0 ] [0.00%] 4 [ 1 ] [0.52%] 3 [ 5 ] [2.58%] 2 [ 3 ] [1.55%] 1 [ 1 ] [0.52%] 0 [ 3 ] [1.55%] CA 8/9/10 ratings: 77.32% Sure there's some honeymoon effect (halo effect) now with CA. But I really do think CA will hold up much better over time than S&A. Wow...talk about picking your data points. Overall, CA = 8.10/10 S&A = 7.36/10 I consider these pretty close. And as was mentioned quite a few times, maybe we will see what 5 years brings. S&A has already settled. CA is still in the woohoo mode. Dividing percentages and detailed data points mean a LOT more than lumping everything into means, which are heavily influenced by outliers. Regardless, time will tell, and I have a feeling CA will stand the test of time much more than SA. BTW, it sounds like you are hoping that CA will not stand the test of time and will be dragged down like SA was. Oh, it will fall. It would be foolish to not think so. The CAid still has people in a euphoria of Rush's best work. I have already started getting not so pumped about it. Maybe I need another glass. I don't think it's foolish to believe this album will have much longer legs than the previos 3, because to me and most others, it is THAT much better. Sure, some regression may happen post honeymoon, but I think a year and beyond from now, you will have a LOT more Rush fans rating this album as their modern best and a career highlight than seen for the last 3 records. I would almost bet on it. And you're hoping it will fail the test of time because........?

QUOTE (andrew28 @ Jul 12 2012, 10:42 AM) QUOTE (GeminiRising79 @ Jul 9 2012, 03:19 PM) I've only heard the lo-res youtube version of CA, and I refuse to purchase the CD based on my initial reaction to it. If anyone would be willing to point me to a good quality recording, I will give a fair listen and see if it "blooms" after a week. If I do see some early glimmers and it grows on me, like so many of you insist, I will buy the CD. If not, I will give an in-depth critique of each song, and the album as a whole. Thank u, Kurt So you want a free CD and in exchange you'll give us your song-by-song review? Pass. lol...yeah....as if we're all waiting with baited breath for his majestic review...........what a narcissist!!! Bet his house is one big mirror that he jacks off to constantly!

QUOTE (andrew28 @ Jul 12 2012, 10:47 AM) Can anyone point me to a restaurant that will give me food that I'm pretty sure I won't like? In the off chance that I do actually like the food, I guess I'll pay for it. But I probably won't like it, so in return for said food, I will offer my scathing review of it. Thank u.

QUOTE (Gompers @ Jul 12 2012, 06:10 AM) QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jul 11 2012, 03:13 PM) QUOTE (Gompers @ Jul 11 2012, 06:41 AM)QUOTE (presto123 @ Jul 11 2012, 05:47 AM) These are stellar poll results. No way SnA would even get close to these numbers. Oh I wouldn't say that. Rate S&A Actually, the numbers illustrate just how much better CA is being received than S&A. S&A: 10 [ 5 ] [3.38%] 9 [ 16 ] [10.81%] 8 [ 41 ] [27.70%] 7 [ 37 ] [25.00%] 6 [ 16 ] [10.81%] 5 [ 13 ] [8.78%] 4 [ 8 ] [5.41%] 3 [ 2 ] [1.35%] 2 [ 5 ] [3.38%] 1 [ 5 ] [3.38%] S&A 8/9/10 ratings: 41.89% CA: 10 [ 22 ] [11.34%] 9 [ 60 ] [30.93%] 8 [ 68 ] [35.05%] 7 [ 23 ] [11.86%] 6 [ 8 ] [4.12%] 5 [ 0 ] [0.00%] 4 [ 1 ] [0.52%] 3 [ 5 ] [2.58%] 2 [ 3 ] [1.55%] 1 [ 1 ] [0.52%] 0 [ 3 ] [1.55%] CA 8/9/10 ratings: 77.32% Sure there's some honeymoon effect (halo effect) now with CA. But I really do think CA will hold up much better over time than S&A. Wow...talk about picking your data points. Overall, CA = 8.10/10 S&A = 7.36/10 I consider these pretty close. And as was mentioned quite a few times, maybe we will see what 5 years brings. S&A has already settled. CA is still in the woohoo mode. Dividing percentages and detailed data points mean a LOT more than lumping everything into means, which are heavily influenced by outliers. Regardless, time will tell, and I have a feeling CA will stand the test of time much more than SA. BTW, it sounds like you are hoping that CA will not stand the test of time and will be dragged down like SA was.

QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jul 12 2012, 08:47 AM) I don't know where this magazine comes from, but the link is below if you wish to visit the site. http://rockandrollworld.net/rock/?p=8130 RUSH Clockwork Angels (Heavy Prog, 2012) Progarchives.com | July 11, 2012 - 10:30 | Review by sagichim If I wouldn't have known Rush before and someone would have told me this album is from a three sixty year old dudes, I probably would say "get the [%*!#] outa here!!". Having not enjoyed any Rush album from the last decade I probably wouldn't have bought this, but after listening to their surprisingly good 2010 single, I thought they might just pull it off afterall. Talking about it on our forum, I certainly approached this album with cautious and hidden expectations. So as I listened to it for a few times, I knew it's a good album but it didn't really fully grabbed me and I was starting to think that I would end up eventually returning it to the shelf to collect a good amount of dust, just like it's predecessor is still doing. But just after a couple of listens it clicked!! and the melodies began to sink in deeper and maid me realize that this is a wonderful album. What makes it so good are a few things, first it's the great melodies, the trio really out did themselves here, whether if it's the verses or the choruses it's all really good. Another thing I like and that's what drew me to this album in the first place, is the excellent heaviness unleashed by Alex's distorted guitars and Geddy's 5 tons weighting bass, it all works so well under the conducting of the maestro Mr. Peart. Seriously I can't find any weak song or any uninspired moment that would remind me any of their previous albums. That said, I wouldn't compare it to any of my favorite 70's albums by the band, that era is over, but placing it in the right perspective I have to say that I would be more than happy to receive this level of quality every two years or so. So what's the album like? Well, arguing if it's going to be progressive or not before it has been released, now I can say... yes it is but also no it's not. It's more in the vein of structured songs with a cool twist or you can just call them interesting songs. The riffs are not your ordinary FM radio stuff, it is certainly edgier, just take a quick look at UB2B's hammer like main riff and you'll get the picture. Other than that, still keeping it in the "song pattern" Rush have a lot to offer to our trained ears, delievering us with fantastic playing and such a high quality writing. The album is again HEAVY but still holds a lot of emotion. Lee's vocals are very good and he doesn't sound like he strained his vocal cords for the past 40 years, but man...can he play that bass whoooohooo, he has a lot of groovy moments and overall a fabulous performance, he is one of my favorite bassists ever no doubt about it. Lifeson also manages to stay a live and produces some excellent riffing and some good solos every now and then, he also didn't loose his inspiration. Peart is like always a master but he is not a wicked machine as he was before, I can't help but feel that this time he hasn't stormed the drum kit and played like the good old days, he is more timid and relaxed than before but still not a single bad word can be said about him. I'm very excited by this album and I'm very proud of Rush, they certainbly showed just what an amazing musicians and incredible writers they are. So if you are already a Rush fan, you can not go wrong with this album since it has just about every thing we love about this band. Great effort 4 solid stars. Keep em coming Tombstone.... esp. if these reviews piss off the haters!