melodic777

just think of Xanadu, and Hemispheres (a lot of them in that song during the main theme of Prelude), Red Barchetta when the guitar solo ends and he does a fill with the drums going into the last verse. Man there's a lot of examples. I love his playing though because even though it is scaler most of the time, he throws in dotted notes and rests to take away the same of 16th note "one e and a" fills as well as the quarter note ascends and descends.

fair enough.

its a message board, I'm glad you had fun, because its not much of a thing to me. WIth the other days' drama, of course, I'm getting snide shit my way......so I'll treat it as such. I don't lose my temper here in my house so if you think you've pulled my chain, you wouldn't know as I have a large thresh hold for bullshit But then again, if you were just messin with me and I am not your friend, then that means you are being a troll, something your people here don't like, so I guess a double standard eh?

QUOTE (Mandalorian Hunter @ Oct 21 2006, 06:01 PM) Hmmm. I can see that Ged's tone is muddy, but if he goes back to the Presto era bass, means Alex has to go there with his guitar sound, and that would just be crap. If a concert is all seated, i can understand people sitting and appreciating, i did for Tull, but standing, it's hard to just stand there for ages without being retarded. I'd like if we would be able to hear what the Presto bass sounded like if we were sitting in the control room of that studio while Geddy was recording because whoever engineered that one really f*cked it up. His tone was great but for that album and RTB, they rolled off everything under 400mhz it seems. Bass would've been brilliant had it had that God damn low pass filter off (I don't know if that was the case, but it sure did seem like it......and this goes for the drums as well) The entire album had the low end rolled off. Give Geddy that tone with some phatness but clean phatness, not garbled up bullshit, and use Alex's tone from say Limelight on R30 and then let them jam. No more of this crap sound he has. As I said and at this point I would give anything to work for free, not to meet Geddy so much, but so that I could hear his tone the way it should be, nice and clean, one last time before he retires at some point I'm guessing in the near few years. I actually didn't mind his tone on "My Favorite Headache" although I didn't really dig the album but the tone was good.

no, I did'nt change anything, I only further elaborated as we all well know the clapping etc was accompanied by screaming.

cool

QUOTE (Grace2Grace @ Oct 16 2006, 09:49 PM) I like that crazy form RHCP... come again?

QUOTE (melodic777 @ Oct 16 2006, 09:41 PM) See, I think his studio sound minus Moving Pictures when there was no bass on YYZ cause it sounded like a guitar with have distortion on......sounds good. But you don't take the engineer on the road with you so having your sound clean in the studio versus on the road can be two separate things. Geddy just hears what he hears. Everyone hears what they want. That guy in Korn thinks he has a good tone. I'd rather pound pencils into my eardrums and then chop my arms off and then feed myself to a pool of hungry alligators than play a bass like that guy with no technique, no tone, no purpose, and look like a total douche. But Geddy has some clean sounds. What I would have given to have heard a beefed up and more present, not thin, Wal sound like Presto but not pussed out like it was mixed in Presto on the Moving Pictures cd. and that is the producer and engineers fault. BUt again, Geddy has a say in his tone. Roll the Bones was the least present bass I've ever heard and that goes for bass drum as well. The whole spectrum was between 400hz and 10khz There was no bottom end, terrible sound and what a great album

See, I think his studio sound minus Moving Pictures when there was no bass on YYZ cause it sounded like a guitar with have distortion on......sounds good. But you don't take the engineer on the road with you so having your sound clean in the studio versus on the road can be two separate things. Geddy just hears what he hears. Everyone hears what they want. That guy in Korn thinks he has a good tone. I'd rather pound pencils into my eardrums and then chop my arms off and then feed myself to a pool of hungry alligators than play a bass like that guy with no technique, no tone, no purpose, and look like a total douche. But Geddy has some clean sounds. What I would have given to have heard a beefed up and more present, not thin, Wal sound like Presto but not pussed out like it was mixed in Presto on the Moving Pictures cd.

QUOTE (Necromancer @ Oct 16 2006, 08:28 PM) On dvd's. The point of the dvd isn't to JUST show play their tunes. The producers and other people that are part of the artistic creation of the DVD are trying to capture a moment in time and a FEEL. Most of us here have heard live and know what we like and which show may have sounded better than another. THAT particular night, in Rio, THE CROWD was a major part of THAT MOMENT IN TIME. It wasn't like every other show they play. So the band and producers, i'm sure, felt it wouldn't do the DVD justice to just have ANOTHER live recording of the band from stage view and crowd mixed out. If the point was just to do that, then it might as well be a lip synched, no crowd show. Know what I mean? I look at DVD concerts as almost a movie. The Rio dvd and R30 have two distinctly different feels and are shot completely different. DVD's are NOT all about the sound, but more the feeling of that particular moment in time. IMO actually, you watch a music dvd to hear and watch the music from the albums be performed, not to watch 60,000 people jump up and down like they're on crack. No, its not their fault for having that energy, they kicked ass and I wish I was Rush to experience that......however, That is for them to experience, I don't like that, I purchase music to listen to IT, not the crowd. If they SLIGHTLY, NOT COMPLETELY cut out the crowd a bit more.....the mix coulda been perfect and we would have had an excellent DVD that gave you that warm feeling as if you were there, yet, a feeling that, this is great, I can still hear the band playing unimpeded by loud people. Fridge, I agree to an extent. I don't find it egotistical to take credit for hard work. I walk the walk. Talk is cheap. If I go into an audition no matter what the format, I walk in there to get the job, and you know what? 9 outta 10 times that job is mine as soon as I plug in because I do possess the chops to hang with anyone on the planet, but I also have instilled in me by a great mentor, teacher, and friend (that will tell me my shit still stinks if need be), the wisdom to know when its not in context and to lay off. You are only as good as the band you play in and if you try to outshine, then its too much, whereas your job in a team should be to do your best to make others look good first and foremost. I'm a chopsmonster, however, I get misinterpreted from my conversations as someone who thinks chops only applies. That's not the case. Just like when I mention Dream Theater, automatically people who don't know much except for maybe "Pull Me Under" jump right on the bandwagon of ignorance and call Petrucci a shredder only, and the bassist overplays and the drummer is an egotistical asshole, and the singer doesn't know how to sing....... If those same people took the time to buy or download each song ever written post '92, they would be enlightened to see that their music has been ecclectic and not all shred, not feelingless and uninspiring..... Same with my playing. I have worked in a ton of bands and in different stylings, I go with the flow but I always make the music my own with my phrasing or fills that I seem to love to work in. Geddy's melodies made me fall in love with his bass playing and I am forever indebted to his influence, as it is one of the reasons I am so good at what I do. He opened doors to my perception in my approach to playing bass guitar. I don't care if I ever make a living off of music, my dream would be to have touched people the way he has and knowing I had part of shaping someone elses passion. That's a very powerful and priceless thing especially between strangers that will never meet. I had a kid approach me that I didn't even know when I was 22 who saw me gigging when I was 18 and I didn't know him from Jack and he said, "you're the reason I started playing bass after seeing what you did on bass that night" That's awesome. I was only an extension of what Geddy and so many other greats have given me. What a gift!

its sad if you're there to hear clapping, yelling, and hollering...... I go to concerts however, to enjoy the music and cheer between songs