Malignant Narcissist

1 hour ago, J2112YYZ said:

 

What are your thoughts on growling vocals? If you don't like that then Lamb Of God isn't for you. Machine Head is very aggressive and heavy but they still have great melodic hooks mixed with aggressive vocals. If you know Phil Anselmo's vocal style, it's kind of like that. I would actually go with Machine Head's new album Of Kingdom And Crown. Tons of hooks on it.

Don't mind growling vocals as long as it doesn't overwhelm the music. 

I like Opeth but I suspect Micheal A's vocals are probably the mildest version of that style. 

On 10/9/2022 at 5:49 PM, Segue Myles said:

Okay let me get the odd one out of the way first:

 

Garth Brooks 

 

The rest of my current go to's are a bit more linked: 

 

Machine Head 

Kreator 

Lamb Of God 

Septicflesh

Not heard of Septicflesh but meaning to check out the other 3 metal bands you mentioned (I do have a Garth Brooks CD single somewhere so that will keep me going for a while ). 

What albums should I start with? 

On 4/26/2022 at 7:55 PM, Laurabw said:

who bought the Fish era Marillion? I forget. Wondering what the verdict is!

Remember when they came out with Script for a Jester's Tear. I like Hogarth-era Marillion but Fish-era is quintessential Marillion for me.

It's got a different feel to it due to, as the band put it, Fish being ahead of the music with his lyrics-and then the band catching up by Misplaced Childhood. 

Well that's my memory of a quote by the keyboard player.

It's very dramatic, early-on, lyric-wise compared to Hogarth-era and even Clutching at Straws.

Especially when you consider early pieces like Grendel. Bit similar to Gabriel-era Genesis compared to Collins-fronted-era.

I like all the Fish albums but ironically, I like Clutching at Straws just as much as Misplaced Childhood and Clutching seemed very paired-down drama-wise and maybe lyrically. It seemed like a bit of a shift towards the Hogarth-style.

Without researching it, I get the vibe that Fish was going through relationship and drinking problems but that's just wild conjecture!

Well here's a comment to really invite some stick regarding Perm Vs Pictures:- 

Well Moving Pictures isn't really heavy metal is it! It's when Rush did Police/Talking Heads so it's not really meant for this poll!! 

Usually Salted Caramel Cheesecake, Cream or Vanilla Slice from a supermarket patisserie section. (Or a variety thereof..)

But recently was tempted by some plain old custard with banana and it was surprisingly (to me) as satisfying as the aforementioned cakes!

On 10/8/2022 at 3:33 PM, Derek19 said:

What song from Triumph have you heard, and listened to?  You should try listening to them more.  I think they are a really good Canadian band, and group.  From Judas Priest, do you mean "Devil's Child", or "Electric Eye"?  Both songs are from "Screaming For Vengeance".  Judas Priest don't have a song called "Devil's Eye".  "Revolution" is from "Angel of Retribution".  Judas Priest has always been heavy metal.  They've had, and needed to change their sound, but stayed true to their heavy metal sound.

As you seem to be the forum's Judas Priest rep, you may be glad to hear that I'm listening to British Steel and thoroughly enjoying it, even Breaking the law. Maybe it's just the chorus of that song that used to bug me!

For my money, Priest had a good run of stylish album covers and then changed to a more vivid type from Screaming onwards. I quite like the Screaming for Vengeance cover but they style change seemed to be a bit of a dip in quality as the following albums were released. 

Breaking the law, Rocka Rolla, Killing Machine, Stained Class and Sad Wings were all quite cool and distinctive covers to my mind. The brighter more cartoonish covers of later years don't do it as much for me as much as those 'more stylish' early ones. Just my op.

Lot of bands I can think of that didn't make the cut (Slayer, Anthrax, Saxon, Exodus, Dokken, Whitesnake, Accept....Loudness(?!)...) but I can't really argue too strongly for replacing any of the bands and the albums here. For the most part, they are the biggies. 

Who here started listening to Rush because they loved the singing? 

Rush has always been about the musicianship. And let's face it, especially the bass and drums. 

I aspire to be a good guitarist and I try and do the odd Rush tune on the guitar and it always strikes me when learning a song, if it hadn't before, how much the bass and drums contribute to the brilliance of the music.

I love Lerxst's playing but he was always overshadowed a bit by the other 2 guys. 

So Geddy's vocals were always the last piece just to 'finish things off'. He pretty much hit the rights notes but like other vocalists who had 'character' rather than being top notch, (see Bon Scott, some Ozzy, Les Claypool, Brian Johnson, Lemmy etc), one was always drawn in by the music around them rather than their voices or singing ability specifically.

But as I alluded to in another post here, his voice has actually got better or more appealing over the years. Whether he's got a better vocalist or not is another matter. 

So can't put him in a top 10 because there are far too many other good singers out there. 

But as a multi-tasker, even just bass and singing, he's right near the top!

On 10/8/2022 at 3:33 PM, Derek19 said:

What song from Triumph have you heard, and listened to?  You should try listening to more of them.  I think they are a really good Canadian band, and group.  From Judas Priest, do you mean "Devil's Child", or "Electric Eye"?  Both songs are from "Screaming For Vengeance".  Judas Priest don't have a song called "Devil's Eye".  "Revolution" is from "Angel of Retribution".  Judas Priest has always been heavy metal.  They've had to change their sound, but stayed true to their heavy metal sound.

I meant Devil's Child. 

OK I'm not overly familiar with many of Priest's albums but I did listen to Screaming... and Turbo a while back. I like Screaming but was underwhelmed by Turbo if I remember rightly. 

I've got Sad Wings recently but have only heard the odd song. Maybe it's the 70s production or the style of music at the time but I thought someone say they were more 'hard rock' and maybe a hint or prog in that album rather than full-on metal but hey, I haven't listened to it much so I'm happy to be corrected that they were metal from the outset.

I thought it was considered one of their better early ones too.

I may have heard Stained Glass too at some point and thought it ok but wasn't knocked out by it. 

I used to hear Breaking the Law everywhere during the 80s as the archetypal Priest song and I've never really liked it. Well, it's ok but but I that's the best I'll grant it. 

A friend at the time said I should hear it live (probably referring to Unleashed in the East which I haven't heard) instead. 

But many people have cited Priest as one of their favourites (Opeth's Michael Akerfeldt amongst others) so I need to give them a more in depth listen at some point.

As for Triumph, I don't know what song I heard but they sounded pretty good but it was only 1 song. 

Let's face it, they're all good. Well, I presume because I haven't heard much Triumph apart from the odd track which I mean to resolve. 

Having said that I find Priest a bit underwhelming but they seem to have a killer track here and there (Devil's eye, Revolution) and others that are just ok. I need to get more acquainted with their catalogue to be honest to get a better feel for them. Their rock-to-metal style has jumped around a bit though since their early days if I'm not mistaken so the albums can vary in 'rock' style sometimes. Listening to Sad Wings of Destiny is, for instance, a bit different than listening to Screaming for Vengeance. 

Got one of their albums, No Exit, a long time ago and was not bad but a bit uneven if my recollection is correct. Have tried a few tracks on spoty-thingy and impressed enough to start listening to them in anger. NB:- on LP so haven't had a system setup for a while to listen to it.

I think Mike Portnoy is mates with Jim Matheos (?) who is the main guy for FW right? So that gives it some prog cred but then again, MP is one of these guys who seems to know everyone in his corner of the music biz!

Soundgarden - Spoonman 

Live - Pillar of Davidson

Black Sabbath - Supernaut

As others have said, as a combo singer-bass player-keyboard-foot pedals-moving mic with his nose-basting chickens on tour he's 2nd to none. 

As a singer/bass player he's up there in a top 5 with the likes of Jack Bruce, Sting and Phil Lynott. 

Singing experts correct me if I'm wrong but I think Geddy had a slight advantage over others in starting off with having a high voice with respect to longevity. 

He might have had trouble hitting the high notes as his voice presumably got deeper, as it tends to for most of us, but I think mid-career on wards his voice got a bit mellower (for want of a better word) and deeper to a mid range and therefore more appealing to the masses who weren't a fan of the high, Robert Plant-in-overdrive initial experience.

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My wife and I were going to watch the Zack Snyder cut as our Saturday night viewing but she baulked when she realised it was nearly 4 hours long.

We watched the original cut but before and after I have been trying to watch the Zack S version to see if and how it improves things. 

Porcupine Tree and Sons of Apollo

Prog heavy and heavy prog!

On 9/30/2022 at 9:59 PM, bathory said:

KISS

I think we're reading this topic as guilty pleasures! (See Status Quo under that banner too).

14 hours ago, stoopid said:

I listen to a fair bit of prog, so pretty much all those bands aren't mainstream.

Mon dieux - yes totally. Love prog too but I've only scratched the surface of it and there are loads of good bands under the radar in that genre.

Sliding into another different style there's always Santana:-

https://youtu.be/JAsfAuvFvh8

I actually find Samba Pa Ti a bit boring and love it when he and band speed up a bit but it's more of a band vibe then with them all pitching in here and there and his solos being interspersed throughout:-

On 5/11/2022 at 6:01 PM, Timbale said:

Marc Ribot - a madman/master

 

 

Not necessarily my fave but nice to have something a bit different posted here. 

Have heard plaudits for Marc Ribot before so much check him out a bit more. I presume he's on more than just Tom Waits' pieces.

Soundgarden - Burden in my Hand

Sons of Apollo - King of Delusion

Holdsworth at his most rocking! Wanted to post because Eddie Van Halen got this album arranged for him as he was a big fan of him and was hoping to produce it but couldn't make it in the end. 

Will do!

On 9/26/2022 at 2:15 PM, Rod in Toronto said:

The Temperance Movement. Incredible band with Stones and Faces influence, who unfortunately broke up after only three albums.

I'd have to check but I think they were mentioned several times over the last few years in one of the UK's rock magazines. Maybe Classic Rock. A track of theirs might have been on one of the free compilation CDs these mags sometimes have. I've got a few and see if I can track it down (although Spoti-thingy might be easier).

2 hours ago, Babycat said:

Notwithstanding, I knew of a sibling who's completely and utterly grammatically illiterate, uses no commas, no punctuation of any kind, and would fly off the handle with the kind of temper that could go from 0 to 60 in three seconds... just because I couldn't figure out wtf she was on about. The fact that she could quite literally take it the wrong way would be quite the understatement...  

Is this generally or just in their online interactions? I don't really need to know per se but rather I just wondered if many people act/react differently online as opposed to in real life.