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Yeah. I hadn't decided if I was going to pay for Toronto tix plus staying overnight (did not want to drive five hours home after the show.) Too late. Oh well. I've seen them before. It's possible they'll add dates since the sales are so great. I'm stunned. I did not expect them to sell so hot over here after such a long lay off and even longer since they were big here. What I really want, though, is an album. Rob and Jim write constantly, and they record albums still. They're the principle writers, so if they want to work together, all they need is for Pete to want to sing. Come on, one more time guys!

Wow. This is the very first album I bought with my own money. I was very much into Def Leppard. I very very rarely bother with them anymore, they do little for me. If I heard them now for the first time I doubt I'd notice. But I don't know. This thread makes me want to go listen right now. Great memories, and affection for these tunes will last forever.

I LOVED Closer when I was young, long before I had any idea who Rush was. But in my town they played that song to the point that it dropped. Sure I like it, and yes FbN was played its share of rotations, but FbN wins, because I head Closer too often for it to retain its once lofty spot.

They were known in the underground, of which I sadly was not party. But Diesel broke huge here and when I looked into them and saw their back catalog, I ordered every album from my music store and bought them immediately. Phenomenal band often seen as one-hit wonder over here, which is sickening. Capricornia was a stellar send off, Moginie is a genius, Rob's contributions are always spot on, and if they want to make another I'll buy it now sound unheard.

I hated the typical lyrics so much- cars/beer/women/party. In fact, I will more quickly like a band if they have something to say, either ridiculous or political. That helps me get past a weak band. A good band isn't enough for me, though. A great one is, but a good band better have more to say. Some people never listen to lyrics, I study them. But I agree that a facade of social consciousness is far worse than just admitting you'd rather just rock out for fun. I'll take an honest band over a posturing band any day.

True, except Vikernes was never a satanist. He was and has always been a paganist. Fair enough. In the original post the question was posed this way: "What you think? What is the point of inverted crosses, devils and pentagrams on album covers, evil, morbid and Satanic/anti-Christian lyrics at many metal bands, esp.of extreme subgenres?" So I took this broader picture and brought him in that way. The anti-Christian theme.

Many bands that use satanic ideology in picture or lyric also are quite outspokenly opposed to war, racism, and intolerance. The point is often to counter a perceived hypocrisy in Christianity that claims to be all of those things, but to which many Christian adherents seem to directly act in opposition to. And there are those that just adorn themselves for the scene. And those who see it as a lark, or a shock. And then there are the truly awful folk like Vikernes. There's a lot of great Black/Folk Metal, and unfortunately racist xenophobes like Vikernes legitimize that sick subset of fans who actually want to hurt others. It's uncommon, and I reject the idea that his existence damns the whole lot of fans and bands. And he hasn't changed. Over 20 years in prison and he's still dangerous and has dangerous ideas. But he isn't indicative of that vast majority of bands/fans.

When I first got heavily into Rush I looked up everything in our main library. There were multiple mentions of a LOT of bands as being satanic in some books. Terribly researched and outright careless guessing. One of those satanic bands: Rush One of those books reprinted lyrics that were consistently wrong for many bands. Not always wrong in ways that supported their argument, but consistently wrong. So I can't take any charge of satanism seriously unless I look it up myself. Outside of people like Varg Vikernes, I haven't seen too many serious concerns.

I never understood why some people can read Stephen King, but think such music is evil. It's the same thing, essentially. Stories in song rather than book, and not serious. The attraction of the topic of course was massively heightened by those opposed to the music, because a lot of people can't resist poking a person who is overly sensitive to nonsense. edit: The above opinion isn't an assumption that Texas King is such a person, I wouldn't think you'd post the question if you were. A lot of people quite understandably find the whole topic obvious and tired, and others just don't think much of intentional provocation because they find it a cynical grab for shock. I don't presume to know your reasons, but the fact that some people are super sensitive to the subject is definitely a reason it became so massively popular.

Adolescent iconoclasm, the excitement of engaging in 'wrong' things. A stick in the eye to authority. A rejection of proscribed rules of What Is Good in favor of proving that there is no devil and religion is silly. I think some or all of the above is the point. I think it is very very rarely serious. Sometimes it's a socio/political point. Sometimes it's just to exercise a right to do what you want regardless of society's opinion, sometimes it's just because it sells, and sometimes it's just for fun. I don't care one way or another if a band plays around with the occult. Sometimes it's great, sometimes it's obvious and boring, sometimes it's stupid. It never offends me, though.

My instinct was UK, but then I reflected on what classic even meant. Is Hendrix classic? Is Van Halen? I voted tie, but I probably should change it to UK, but without the parameters I'm not sure. I already know classic has changed since I was young, it includes more bands now. Are the Ramones classic? Is Kiss? I don't even like Kiss, but they certainly mattered. You know what, I'm changing it to UK. I'm overthinking this.

Prime Mover is easily the best song on HYF, but Lock and Key is sub par. Territories is sometimes my favorite on Power Windows, and Grand Designs was a favorite once. So the Power duo wins, but Prime Mover wins best song.

Since Red Barchetta is my least favorite song on Moving Pictures, and Freewill is my second favorite on Permanent Waves, this was an incredibly easy call.

I got them all...almost. I was struggling- (Hole in the Ground? Grass Hole? Rabbit Hole? Down the Hole? etc.) Argh.

Children of the Grave, although in a way I almost have to vote for Back Sabbath, because I can only imagine what hearing that for the first time must have been like. It came out almost the day I was born, it may have been traumatizing at the time.

Without the wonderful Snakes instrumentals this poll is no longer up to date. I voted Villa, but Snakes deserves to be included.

I voted for Cross, then I switched to Stewart. Then I deleted entirely. I like elements of both, and both turn down roads that bore me or annoy me. Neither. I think if I really had to I'd choose Cross. His song needs more punch, though. Stewart's song needs to dial back the overwrought build. Basically they both are better in their verses.

I just was notified of that as well. Toronto's the closest to me. A five hour drive for the Oils? Possibly the last time ever? I need to make it happen. Lucky to see them in Lincoln in the early 90's. Finger's crossed. I get a home show (more or less), I'll be there! I can take my 15 year old with me now, who was still in the womb the last time I saw them. Best of all is she knows all of their songs and will be just as psyched to hear Lucky Country or No Time For Games as Beds are Burning. It's amazing the scope of this tour, wow, it's the largest since Blue Sky Mining I think, They're playing literally everywhere this year. http://www.midnighto...017-world-tour/ My son wants to go, but at 15 he can't make the 19+ show. Next closest is north Philly, but I don't see that happening.

I just was notified of that as well. Toronto's the closest to me. A five hour drive for the Oils? Possibly the last time ever? I need to make it happen. Lucky to see them in Lincoln in the early 90's. Finger's crossed.

I think the fact that I've always listened to current music ensured my kids never felt a divide between generations as far as art goes. I've never experienced my kids frowning on anything I liked because of it's era.

Angry Anderson is a great front man.

They have a great drummer, and Colin Hay's vocals are fantastic. And he's a massively underrated writer. His solo albums are very good.

Yeah, but close enough. If we include New Zealand then it's tougher for me. 70's Split Enz were bizarre, but wonderful. Not taking anything away from what they did after Neil Finn joined his older brother, but Tim Finn and Phil Judd were weird in a way I really love. I'd still vote for the Oils, though.

I need to check out Angel City and Cold Chisel, I don't know either of them. I think you'd like some of the ones I added, Goose. Edit: Weird that I don't know the Angels. I like them a lot, thanks for broadening the picture! And based on what I heard you'd definitely like some of the ones I mentioned. Just listened to a bit of Cold Chisel as well. A bit of old and a bit of new. I like the singer a lot. Definitely more win here. Thanks!

Radio Birdman Alchemist Rose Tattoo Beasts of Bourbon The Saints The Scientists X (not the California punks, the Aussie garage) Hunters and Collectors Lime Spiders All deserve attention for sure My favorite band as an adolescent was Men At Work, but Midnight Oil is one of my all time favorite bands right now. This was easy. Australia has produced exceptional talent.