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    THE ONLY SPAM THREAD v.25

    in Grand Designs

    Posted · Edited by grep

    17 hours ago, That One Guy said:

    The Tesla Model S Plaid starts at $90,000, seats 4 adults comfortably, has 1,020 horsepower, does 0-60mph in 2.0 seconds, does a quarter mile in 9.2 seconds @ 155mph, limited to 200mph, and has an 8 year / 150k mile battery and drive unit warranty. And of course the cost per mile in electricity to drive this rocketship is dirt cheap.

     

    That's crazy for the price point. Is there a two seat supercar on sale that is as fast as this family sedan for $500,000?

     

    90 grand for a ride with batteries that are only guaranteed for 8 years doesn't sound all that appealing, TBH.  That's not a long time at all.  Get that down to 50K and I'm interested. Maybe.  Because charging availability on the road, and charging times still aren't there yet.  LIke, If I'm going to drive 600 miles on a vacation trip, that's what, 2 charges minimum?  How long does each take, and how vulnerable am I sitting in some place for like an hour with few options for alternatives. 

    I drive A LOT, and getting stuck somewhere is my biggest fear. 

    The tech and prices have to get better before the average person will buy into this promising stuff.

    I'm going to try to squeeze as much life out of my current 3 year old ride as I can.... and in 5 years look to get a hybrid. 

    THE ONLY SPAM THREAD v.25

    in Grand Designs

    Posted · Edited by grep

    2 hours ago, That One Guy said:

    It took until 2020, but the corporations that own most of the country finally noticed that there are tons and tons of items you can crank up the price on, that people will keep buying, often out of necessity. There's no free market competition when the competitor, if one exists, just does the same thing. Very few companies are trying to increase their market share among the poors with lean per-item margins. They'd all rather just abandon that market and fight for the more profitable upmarket customers.

     

    Shit's f***ed.

    I read something last year that said the margin on the typical product is on average 75% of the cost of said product.  Up from 7-15% in the 80's and 90's.

    So yeah, milk us to pay the shareholders.  f**k that.


    And don't even get me started on 'subscriptions'.   Like... BMW wanting a monthly fee to enable features in their vehicles... in perpetuity. Just one example.

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    John Rutsey - not returning phone calls/unpredictable

    in Rush

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    10 hours ago, currygoat11 said:

    This is something I have never read. For some reason this web page doesn't show the text content, but it's only available if you 'View Page Source'. This is straight from John and then a comment from Alex..

    http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/transcripts/19880404banasiewiczvisions.htm

     

     

    Reading that now - it helps me remember.  It jives with other stuff I've read and heard over the years. 

    Bottom line, they were moving in different directions.  It's natural and no one really did anything wrong.  At least not in the stories we've been presented with.

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