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Out of curiosity, I thought I'd see how Geddy sounded on the S&A tour, where I really started noticing the problem, even though it existed prior to that. I did a google search and the firs thing it came up with was Red Barchetta from the S&A official DVD:

 

 

 

Check out Geddy's singing from 1:26 on through about 3:00 - I didn't listen beyond that. TRY and be objective and just listen just to the vocals. Sometimes he's fine, but at other times it's cringe city. And keep in mind this was 5 or 6 years ago and things have only and will only get worse. The RRHOF performance vocally was worse than this video.

 

I'll see your S&A Red Barchetta and raise you a Time Machine Freewill

 

 

 

AND a HEADLONG FLIGHT....

 

 

 

Kiss my ass, lee can't sing, that's domino mother trucker!

 

NIce :)

Just skimmed through these, because as much as I like ya, Goobs, You will never win me over in an argument over Geds vocals. I like the way he sings today and the quality of his vocals.

 

Your "sky is falling" scenario that Geddy is killing off new fans by the dozen with his horrible vocals is illogical, and has already been played out and proven wrong by the strength of his performance on both the new album and both legs of the tour.

 

Have you actually attended a Rush concert recently?

 

I do have to thank you, tho - I saw the words "Bob Dylan" and "Geddy Lee" together in a post as some sort of rational comparison and had myself a good chuckle.

 

;)

 

Holy overeaction.

 

Ged can still bring it live - he sounds great on this tour, go see them.

 

I don't care that his voice is a little rough around the edges. So what? His performance at the HOF was good, not great, but not at all "cringeworthy" and certainly won't turn off any potential new fans any more then his 20 year old screech would. C'mon

 

At least his 20 year old screech was in key and sounded effortless. Oh well, to each their own. Hardcore fans are incredibly forgiving, but it is a real and growing problem/issue.

 

Its not about being forgiving - it's about being a realist.

 

The band is much older now and Geds vocals will surely be the first thing to show their age - particularly under the glare of unforgiving hi-def television.

 

However, his vocals were not the dreadful, potential new-fan killing problem you are suggesting. They were fine, actually. Certainly not off key??

 

Again, go see them live, in their element.

 

I had the incredible pleasure of seeing the Orlando show in the front row directly in front of Geddy last month (an awesome VIP victory story I still need to share here ;) and trust me, with seats like that you hear everything.

 

Of course his voice has aged - he has to really work for some notes and it takes him a good few songs to get warmed up. But as Analog_Bro said, what he can still do at his age is incredible. There are portions of the show that just blew me away vocally, both due to the power he still has and, even more so, how beautiful he sounds on the melodic "singers" songs they are doing on this tour. He's still got it, just has to work a little harder to get there lol - and man, does he ever. The dude is a monster on stage - I can't get over the shape he's in.

 

At this stage of the game, Geddy's voice is anything but a detriment to the band. On the contrary, it's one of their biggest assets that allows them to continue doing what they do at this level.

 

I say enjoy it while it lasts and focus on the postive.Time is still the infinate jest.

Holy overeaction.

 

Ged can still bring it live - he sounds great on this tour, go see them.

 

I don't care that his voice is a little rough around the edges. So what? His performance at the HOF was good, not great, but not at all "cringeworthy" and certainly won't turn off any potential new fans any more then his 20 year old screech would. C'mon

What does everyone think?

 

Clockwork Angels is fantastic.

this is the dumbest damn debate I've ever seen

 

You betchya!

 

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get over it, Neil does Not care

 

This is true, and neither do I.

 

I love his drumming and lyrics, and enjoy some of his writings - but if I ever saw him in person I would walk right past him.

Like he cares!!!!!

 

Of course he cares. He hates being approached by his fans, which is why I would respect his wishes and walk right past him.

 

I certainly wouldn't feel the need to blather over him.

Something tells me Rush would've kept in different circle during ceremony

 

Yes, I'm sure they would have hung in the back out of fear Joan Jett might piss on them lol

get over it, Neil does Not care

 

This is true, and neither do I.

 

I love his drumming and lyrics, and enjoy some of his writings - but if I ever saw him in person I would walk right past him.

Ha - that's pretty awesome.

 

The Runaways music is terrible. I still don't understand what their frickin problem is?

 

Okay - bravo, they were an all female band.... with really bad songs.

 

The seventees had plenty of incredibly talented, successful female rockers - Ann and Nancy Wilson of course - and Stevie Nicks and Christine Mcvie from Fleetwood Mac, who penned some of the biggest hits of all time, let alone the entire decade.

 

If The Runaways were shunned and ridiculed despite having really good songs, I would be the first to defend them.

 

But they sucked.

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Well, keep in mind that SPIN is about as releveant as Windows 98.

 

But no, I'm not surprised at all that some Rush fans were disruptive jerks who drank too much.

 

Wouldn't be a Rush show without them, unfortuntely.

All of the speeches were great - Alex was typiclly silly.

 

I didn't get the sense that this was a disrespect at all - they all seemed genuinely moved by this whole experience.

 

Great night for the band and us fans, I wish I was there!

Lunch with Nancy Wilson - sweet!!

 

Tom Saywer and Spirit (or YYZ) - sure it's predictable, but appropriate

I was relieved when it was cancelled, to be honest. It was a BAD storm - I kept telling my Sister "there is no way they can play tonight, someones gonna go flying off that stage"

 

The poor crew waited until the very last minute - they were literally sweeping water off the stage.

 

Life happens. The make-up show was a treat and we all got those awesome hats.

Rush had always been on my radar as a kid - my older brothers and cousins were fanatics when Exit Stage Left came out but I was still only 11.

 

Four years later I heard Red Sector A and from that moment on I was hooked. As presto123 mentioned, it was the "goosebump factor".

 

For me it has always been about the "hooks" and the melodies that Geddy brings to the table. As much as I love and appreciate the mastery of their musicianship - it's the melody and feel of the songs that has held me captive for all these years.

 

I also just loved how entirely unique they were (and still are)

 

As a young guy I definately felt "different" and Rush were a band that was entirely weird, totally unique and realy spoke to me on a personal level.

Easy. It's the goosebump factor.

 

YES!

I especially love it as the opener for the VT tour - fantastic choice for their comeback tour.

 

It's their signature tune - anyone who is really, truly upset by having to endure Tom Sawyer in concert really needs to do some re-evaluating.

I can think of far worse things to spend my money on then 90 minutes of Rush music

2112 was also a major event but it did not kick the doors open to new fans like MP.

 

2112 didnt break them into the mainstream like MP - but in terms of their success, it's probably their most critical record. If it failed, they were done.

 

Instead, it broke them out and set a standard for total creative freedom ever since

 

Pretty awesome :)

It's fun to speculate - but all things have their place in the scheme of things.

 

Would Donna Halper have put "Fly By Night" into heavy rotation had that been the first single she heard?

 

I would venture to say probably not - Working Man was the right song at the right time.

 

So, it will be nice for the guys to give a shout out to Rutsey.

This changes everything now that Rush is in the RRHOF. They will no longer be our "personal band" sorta speak. They will now join the ranks of Rolling Stones and Aerosmith.

People that never gave a rats ass about Rush before will all of a sudden like them. Will be more people (not genuine fans) going to their shows. Jacking up ticket prices!

 

Personaly, I think Rush should do the right thing and turn down this stupid induction. They have said it in the past that the RRHOF mean nothing to them.

 

People who dislike Rush are not going to suddenly become superfans just because they are being inducted, just as Rush fans aren't going to become disco loving, Donna Summer fanatics.

 

I don't see the harm in the band being exposed to new fans, however - they have plenty of music to go around.

I mentioned this before, but have Chris Cornell sing 2112 (Temples).

 

No offense to Chris Cornell fans, but for some reason I have always loathed his voice. It's so ... grating.

 

I guess I know how the non-Ged fans feel lol

I didn't see this tour live (first show was the PoW tour) but I've never been a big fan of the GUP concert video or their live sound at the time.

I really think the guitar urinated on by Joan Jett belongs front and center.

 

THIS!!!