Earthshine

This comparision of Rush with the Foo Fighters is insulting. NO WAY!

Can someone post it please?

Grabs hold, and won't let go!

He is. But so what? Him being a fanboy makes him all the more familiar with the greatness of the band, and not some producer who has never heard of them before.

QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Jun 12 2012, 02:17 PM)

Another listen-and-a-half later, and something occurs to me: The lyrics are focused less on the protagonist's little episodic adventures and more on WHAT HE LEARNS FROM THEM. The narrative may be confusing because there's little narrative there - it's unimportant; the focus is on what the hero LEARNS. Look at the lyric sheet or listen to all the songs again. It's not as if the lyrics tell linear and specific stories, just the bare bones of what happened (and these "bare bones" are often in the italicized part, not in the lyrics), followed by an epistemic "this is what I now know" song. For example - From "The Anarchist" he learns: It's shameful to tell How often I fell In love with illusions again From "The Wreckers" he learns: All I know is that sometimes you have to be wary Of a miracle too good to be true. All I know is that sometimes the truth is contrary - Everything in life you thought you knew. All I know is that memory can be too much to carry... From "Wish Them Well" he learns a lot, including: People who judge without a measure of mercy All the victims who will never learn Even the lost ones, you can only give up on Even the ones who make you burn The ones who've done you wrong The ones who pretended to be so strong The grudges you've held for so long It's not worth singing that same sad song Even though you're going through hell Just keep on going... All that you can do is wish them well You get the idea. What nugget of wisdom did the hero acquire from each episodic moment of his life? That's what we hear about.

QUOTE (Ovningskora @ Jun 14 2012, 06:57 PM)

QUOTE (Earthshine @ Jun 14 2012, 03:44 PM) I have no doubt that Neil know the Bible better than most Bible-thumping Christians out there. He reads EVERYTHING. And it seems to me that he lives his life in a more Christ-like fashion (I mean, Wish Them Well, meaning "love your enemies" in a large sense!) than the religious hypocrites of Christianity, Islam and Judaism who are killing each other all over the world and have been for thousands of years over religion! Sounds like it's almost as if Neil is a prophet to you.   Have you ever took part in any kind violence or conflict? Something you yourself consider immoral?   Not a prophet of any kind. And no, I have not been violent in a long time. And if I was, it was apologized for and resolved and learned from. Not justified or excused.   Nor done anything immoral for a long time. Again, when so I was my greatest critic and strongest self-punisher. Not the church or any organized religion. And I learned to forgive myself and learn from it.

QUOTE (Saint NIck @ Jun 14 2012, 07:25 PM)

Alrighty, here I go...I'm a very proud Christian of the Catholic Faith. I love RUSH; I use the term "Free Will" very often; and I love "Faithless" and "BU2B". For those who are agnostic and/or athiest, that's their own lives to live. Whether you believe or not, the right thing to do is just be a good person...love one another...or at least try to keep the peace.

Well, I think it is a matter of wanting "the old Rush" and not accepting them for what and who they are now. It would be ridiculous for them to try to write, play, record and perform as they did 30 years ago.

Totally. I thought the 2 singles were real good. But now hearing the whole album, they are even better and the whole album is much better than I ever expected.

Got to read it now. When does it go on sale?

No. Not on a new song like this. Maybe in a few years.

5. If I had been taken to a concert at 5, I would remember it. It could change one's life.

QUOTE (Jeffrey @ Jun 14 2012, 03:46 AM)

I woke up with the thought this morning that a TV evalengist can be compared to the fake lighthouse in this song.

I listen to it at least 3 times a day.

QUOTE (snowdog2112 @ Jun 14 2012, 09:03 AM)

I still can't get over how people attach the sound of a particular album to a producer and then assume any other album made during any era by that same band/producer combo would sound that same way. It's nuts. It doesn't matter if Terry Brown or Peter Henderson or Peter Collins or Rupert Hine produced CA it's not going to sound anything like the 70s or 80s albums. It just wouldn't. Go listen to Power Windows and Hold Your Fire and then listen to Counterparts and Test For Echo. Both pairs were produced by Peter Collins and the first 2 have signature 80s sound and the latter 2 have signature 90s sound and if any of them were still with Rush today it would not be much different than what CA is. Look at Terry Brown, ATWAS sounds nothing like ESL. Fly By Night sounds nothing like Signals. The idea is just silly that any producer is going to make a band sound like they are from another time.

QUOTE (presto123 @ Jun 10 2012, 04:44 AM)

CA is way better than 2112. All it takes is more spins and more familiarity. 2112 was an important record in the bands history for sure but it has weaknesses. CA has few weaknesses once you give it a chance to sink in. I never would have believed it. This record just gets better and better the more you spin it.

I have no doubt that Neil know the Bible better than most Bible-thumping Christians out there. He reads EVERYTHING. And it seems to me that he lives his life in a more Christ-like fashion (I mean, Wish Them Well, meaning "love your enemies" in a large sense!) than the religious hypocrites of Christianity, Islam and Judaism who are killing each other all over the world and have been for thousands of years over religion!

QUOTE (Snaked @ Jun 14 2012, 11:01 AM)

It seems like Neil has hit me right where I'm living several times over the years. Lyrics that simply speak to me on a base level, directed exactly at the point in my life where I am at that particular time. Right now it's Wish Them Well. What a remarkable lyric. All that you can do is wish them well All that you can do is wish them well Spirits turned bitter by the poison of envy Always angry and dissatisfied Even the lost ones, the frightened and mean ones Even the ones with a devil inside Thank your stars you're not that way Turn your back and walk away Don't even pause and ask them why Turn around and say goodbye People who judge without a measure of mercy All the victims who will never learn Even the lost ones, you can only give up on Even the ones who make you burn The ones who've done you wrong The ones who pretended to be so strong The grudges you've held for so long It's not worth singing that same sad song Even though you're going through hell Just keep on going Let the demons dwell Just wish them well

I am on this search to really try to understand the meaning of this album and its songs.

 

Anyway, here is the main definition:

 

 

A breaker is a piece of reef against which waves break.

 

This sense of the term is closely related to another sense, that of the breaking wave itself. In times past, when ocean navigation was relatively rudimentary, a line of breaking waves was a crucial indicator that a boat was bearing down upon an island or reef. This was especially the case when sailing in darkness, in which the highly visible line of froth caused by breaking waves could be the only such indicator. In such cases the line of breakers was charted and named as a "breaker".

 

 

 

 

However, here is a 2nd definition:

 

 

Breakers are humans from various parallel worlds in Stephen King's multiverse who have various psychic powers. For example, a breaker named Dinky Earnshaw, from both King's Everything's Eventual and the Dark Tower series, has an ability "from some promise" to kill anything he chooses, although he has no exact control over when or how, which comes from some magic language that is particular only to him. And while some of the breakers have similar powers, most are very diversified, although the most common are teleportation or telepathy/telekinesis.

 

So could these "breakers" also be the ones who lured them there and are taking over the ship and are actually The Wreckers?

Just looked up "Pedlar." It is the British form and original spelling of Peddler. Also, it is an island in Ontario! Interesting!

Here we go (be ready; this is very different):

 

 

Chain Lightning

Chemistry

Prime Mover

Between Sun And Moon

Time And Motion

Alien Shore

Anagram

The Pass

Grand Designs

Cygnus X-1 Book 1

Cygnus X-1 Book 2 Hemispheres

 

INTERMISSION

 

Caravan

BU2B

Clockwork Angels

The Anarchist

Carnies

Halo Effect

Seven Cities Of Gold

The Wreckers

Headlong Flight

BU2B2

Wish Them Well

The Garden

Leave That Thing Alone (with drum solo)

Middletown Dreams

Hope

We Hold On

 

ENCORE:

The Color Of Right

One Little Victory

Mission

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They can and should do it.

Here we go:

 

Here Again

Before And After

Best I Can

By-Tor And The Snow Dog (all of it)

The Necromancer

Fountain of Lamneth

2112 (all of it in its original key!)

The Twilight Zone

Cinderella Man

Cygnus X-1 Book 1

Hemispheres (all of it)

The Trees

Jacob's Ladder

Entre Nous (in its original key!)

Red Barchetta

The Camera Eye

Chemistry

Digital Man

Red Lenses

Between The Wheels

Grand Designs

Middletown Dreams

Open Secrets

Mission

Chain Lightning

Anagram

The Big Wheel

You Bet Your Life

Between Sun And Moon

Alien Shore

The Color Of Right

Time And Motion

Nocturne

Earthshine

Bravest Face

We Hold On

The Anarchist

Halo Effect

The Wreckers

Wish Them Well

Don't know. But I can't help but wonder what this music would sound like with the production as on Power Windows: big, full, balanced and not so compressed. I would much rather prefer a bigger drum sound. Maybe Neil needs to get rid of those DW's and go back to Ludwig, which are the best sounding drums he ever had. The red Tamas sounded great too. But the white Ludwigs were the best.

A lot of the chord changes, rhythms and vocal lines make this album almost sound like My Favorite Headache, which I love. In fact, this could almost be a Geddy solo album I hear so much Geddy influence in it.