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Here is a link to the story of fathers paying child support for a child that isn't theirs: http://www.canadiancrc.com/articles/NY_Tim...sts_02OCT05.htm And read this: QUOTE DNA test very likely won't end child support Q: A married couple has a child. They divorce and the man pays child support. After three years, a DNA test is performed that shows he is not the father. Does he stop paying child support, and can he recover the money he has paid? A: Now that DNA testing has become widespread and inexpensive, the situation you have described has become a fairly frequent occurrence. When a couple gets divorced, that is when the father should raise the issue of parentage. Under Texas law, if a father fails to raise the issue at the time of the divorce, his ability to bring it up in a later lawsuit is very limited, if not impossible. In real cases similar to the one you described, the father has not been allowed to recover the past payments, and he has been required to keep making the payments. This may appear a bit unfair, but the father did have his chance to do the testing at the time of the divorce. One of the major issues facing legislators and the courts relates to public policy and how the termination of payments would affect the child. In many cases, the child will have been raised thinking of this person as his or her father, and if divorced fathers are allowed to go back to court to try to be released from their child support obligations, many children could be irreparably harmed. Also, in many cases, it would be the taxpayers who would then bear the burden of supporting the child, and that is viewed as an unacceptable result as well. Seems like the state think women are incapable of taking care of themselves, unlike you and I don't see NOW, MADRE or other Women's Rights, either liberal or conservative stepping up to the plate and voicing your sentiment. Are these stories above the exception? No way, it's the rule. Why didn't you know about it? Because you have the choice of getting pregnant or getting an abortion. We as men don't. It's either no sex or paying child support. Women politically have the upper-hand. But do we complain? Not really. We just go to work and eventually die.

QUOTE (Trance @ Dec 12 2006, 08:09 PM) QUOTE (Asian Rush Fan @ Dec 12 2006, 07:21 PM) QUOTE (Trance @ Dec 11 2006, 11:32 AM)QUOTE (porthleven's rose @ Dec 11 2006, 01:50 PM) agreed about the members of Rush----- BUT,any women living on her own can wipe the floor with your list!!!!! +100. I love the part about how there would be no Oprah without men. I could care less about Oprah, but last time I checked she was a woman Also, that's pretty 1920's of him to assume that women need a man to pay the bills. . . f**k that. Good! So there would be no need for alimony. Child support I could understand (if the man's the father), but to demand a man to pay his ex to keep the lifestyle she was accustomed to? You're right f**k that, but that's the way it is. Keep in mind that 50% of all marriages end in divorce in America and 2/3 of all marriages in California ends in divorce. And more times than not, the man has to pay? So yes, I agree, it is f**ked...for the guys. And child support. That's another scam. I get a woman pregnant and I pay child support. I find out that the mother is buying a car or buys a Gucci or Prada bag and so on. The bear necessities for the child is bought but barely. I'm paying for the woman's spending habits. Also I have sex with a woman, she has a baby, I pay child support. After a few years, I see some strange traits, so I get the kid's DNA tested. The child has the mother but not my DNA. She cheats and for three years, I paid for supporting the kid. I dump the woman and the kid but end up going to prison because the child grew accostomed to me. It is f**ked. So I agree, f-the 1920s and get rid of alimony and DNA testing MUST be required after child birth. And if the child is the guy's? Give him itemized receipts of ALL the merchandise the woman buys. If she's deviates from the requirements, she will lose custody of the child and will be imprisoned for fraud. So I agree, f-the 1920s No no see, you got me wrong. I don't give a shit about the alimony thing OR child support OR DNA testing or whatever the hell you just rambled on about. The part of your post that I thought was down right assinine to assume was the part that stated if there were no men there would be no one to pay our bills. If the only women you date make you pay their bills or take out their trash... then you need to get out some more and meet some REAL women. I guarantee you there are those of us out there who bust our asses daily to take care of ourselves. And if women "bust their ass to work", of course you are the exception, why then are men paying more in alimony and child support for children who aren't theirs and not like you? Please explain that to me.

QUOTE (Trance @ Dec 12 2006, 08:09 PM) QUOTE (Asian Rush Fan @ Dec 12 2006, 07:21 PM) QUOTE (Trance @ Dec 11 2006, 11:32 AM)QUOTE (porthleven's rose @ Dec 11 2006, 01:50 PM) agreed about the members of Rush----- BUT,any women living on her own can wipe the floor with your list!!!!! +100. I love the part about how there would be no Oprah without men. I could care less about Oprah, but last time I checked she was a woman Also, that's pretty 1920's of him to assume that women need a man to pay the bills. . . f**k that. Good! So there would be no need for alimony. Child support I could understand (if the man's the father), but to demand a man to pay his ex to keep the lifestyle she was accustomed to? You're right f**k that, but that's the way it is. Keep in mind that 50% of all marriages end in divorce in America and 2/3 of all marriages in California ends in divorce. And more times than not, the man has to pay? So yes, I agree, it is f**ked...for the guys. And child support. That's another scam. I get a woman pregnant and I pay child support. I find out that the mother is buying a car or buys a Gucci or Prada bag and so on. The bear necessities for the child is bought but barely. I'm paying for the woman's spending habits. Also I have sex with a woman, she has a baby, I pay child support. After a few years, I see some strange traits, so I get the kid's DNA tested. The child has the mother but not my DNA. She cheats and for three years, I paid for supporting the kid. I dump the woman and the kid but end up going to prison because the child grew accostomed to me. It is f**ked. So I agree, f-the 1920s and get rid of alimony and DNA testing MUST be required after child birth. And if the child is the guy's? Give him itemized receipts of ALL the merchandise the woman buys. If she's deviates from the requirements, she will lose custody of the child and will be imprisoned for fraud. So I agree, f-the 1920s No no see, you got me wrong. I don't give a shit about the alimony thing OR child support OR DNA testing or whatever the hell you just rambled on about. The part of your post that I thought was down right assinine to assume was the part that stated if there were no men there would be no one to pay our bills. If the only women you date make you pay their bills or take out their trash... then you need to get out some more and meet some REAL women. I guarantee you there are those of us out there who bust our asses daily to take care of ourselves. Then you then Ms Trance, are the exception to the rule. Your idea is though correct and noble is Man bites Dog or the Tail wagging the Dog. You don't care, you tell me to look for a real woman but guess what, there are more fake women than there are real women.

QUOTE (Trance @ Dec 11 2006, 11:32 AM)QUOTE (porthleven's rose @ Dec 11 2006, 01:50 PM) agreed about the members of Rush----- BUT,any women living on her own can wipe the floor with your list!!!!! +100. I love the part about how there would be no Oprah without men. I could care less about Oprah, but last time I checked she was a woman Also, that's pretty 1920's of him to assume that women need a man to pay the bills. . . f**k that. Good! So there would be no need for alimony. Child support I could understand (if the man's the father), but to demand a man to pay his ex to keep the lifestyle she was accustomed to? You're right f**k that, but that's the way it is. Keep in mind that 50% of all marriages end in divorce in America and 2/3 of all marriages in California ends in divorce. And more times than not, the man has to pay? So yes, I agree, it is f**ked...for the guys. And child support. That's another scam. I get a woman pregnant and I pay child support. I find out that the mother is buying a car or buys a Gucci or Prada bag and so on. The bear necessities for the child is bought but barely. I'm paying for the woman's spending habits. Also I have sex with a woman, she has a baby, I pay child support. After a few years, I see some strange traits, so I get the kid's DNA tested. The child has the mother but not my DNA. She cheats and for three years, I paid for supporting the kid. I dump the woman and the kid but end up going to prison because the child grew accostomed to me. It is f**ked. So I agree, f-the 1920s and get rid of alimony and DNA testing MUST be required after child birth. And if the child is the guy's? Give him itemized receipts of ALL the merchandise the woman buys. If she's deviates from the requirements, she will lose custody of the child and will be imprisoned for fraud. So I agree, f-the 1920s

QUOTE (porthleven's rose @ Dec 11 2006, 10:50 AM) agreed about the members of Rush----- BUT,any women living on her own can wipe the floor with your list!!!!! Wipe the floor with my list? I thought this thread was about stopping that

http://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/malebrain.gif the male brain At least it's with women. Imagine a world without men? No child support No alimony No babies No one to pay your gas bill No one to pay your cable bill No Oprah No one to clean the dog poop No one to nag (that's a dream come true) No one to take your trash out No one to kill that spider No one to feed the dog No one to lift the heavy objects No skinny women No washing clothe And worst of all? NO GEDDY, ALEX AND NEIL!!! Cuz they would be with us...da boyz

That's fun! I should try that That is so funny!!!

Oh yeah, without men, there would be no Geddy, Alex or Neil. Hey, you can always listen to chick bands like: J-Lo, Paris Hilton, Janet Jackson, K-Fed, Madonna,

QUOTE (blonde77th @ Nov 16 2006, 07:50 PM) Men's answer to Maxine Men strike back! How many men does it take to open a beer? None. It should be opened when she brings it ------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is a Laundromat a really bad place to pick up a woman? Because a woman who can't even afford a washing machine will probably never be able to support you. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Why do women have smaller feet than men? It's one of those "evolutionary things" that allows Them to stand closer to the kitchen sink. ------------------------------------------------------------------- How do you know when a woman is about to say something smart? When she starts a sentence with "A man once told me..." ------------------------------------------------------------------- How do you fix a woman's watch? You don't. There is a clock on the oven. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Why do men fart more than women? Because women can't shut up long enough to Build up the required pressure. ------------------------------------------------------------------- If your dog is barking at the back door and your wife is yelling at the front door, who do you let in first? The dog, of course. He'll shut up once you let him in. ------------------------------------------------------------------- What's worse than a Male Chauvinist Pig? A woman who won't do what she's told ------------------------------------------------------------------- I married a Miss Right. I just didn't know her first name was Always. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Scientists have discovered a food that diminishes A woman's sex drive by 90%. It's called a Wedding Cake. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Why do men die before their wives? They want to. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Women will never be equal to men until they can Walk down the street with a bald head and a beer Gut, and still think they are sexy. ------------------------------------------------------------------- In the beginning, God created the earth and rested. Then God created Man and rested. Then God created Woman. Since then, neither God nor Man has rested. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Send this to a few good men who need a laugh and To the select few women who can handle the truth ! AND MAXINE SAYS..... http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h173/blonde77th/cid_002701c709ed0f8c2390d6d52648hal.jpg Bwahahahaha

ha ha Donna. but without us, you'd be listening to Kelly Clarkson, Madonna, Paris Hilton. It's men who create darling, unless you're calling the boys girls

It is so hard to choose

QUOTE (Cygnus @ Jun 29 2006, 09:50 AM)How to Make a Woman Happy It's not difficult to make a woman happy. A man only needs to be: 1. a friend 2. a companion 3. a lover 4. a brother 5. a father 6. a master 7. a chef 8. an electrician 9. a carpenter 10. a plumber 11. a mechanic 12. a decorator 13. a stylist 14. a sexologist 15. a gynecologist 16. a psychologist 17. a pest exterminator 18. a psychiatrist 19. a healer 20. a good listener 21. an organizer 22. a good father 23. very clean 24. sympathetic 25. athletic 26. warm 27. attentive 28. gallant 29. intelligent 30. funny 31. creative 32. tender 33. strong 34. understanding 35. tolerant 36. prudent 37. ambitious 38. capable 39. courageous 40. determined 41. true 42. dependable 43. passionate 44. compassionate WITHOUT FORGETTING TO: 45. give her compliments regularly 46. love shopping 47. be honest 48. be very rich 49. not stress her out 50. not look at other girls AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU MUST ALSO: 51. give her lots of attention, but expect little yourself 52. give her lots of time, especially time for herself 53. give her lots of space, never worrying about ! where she goes IT IS VERY IMPORTANT: 54. Never to forget: * birthdays * anniversaries * arrangements she makes HOW TO MAKE A MAN HAPPY 1. Show up naked 2. Bring food In other words boys: Bring the wallet

I have to apologize on the past post, I think my room mate did it and he forgot the answer...the dummy. But I got a question: What album may have inspired a lyric? This takes a little thinking but you could get it.

QUOTE (DonnaWanna @ Jun 19 2006, 04:18 PM) http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5021/thisisfu1gt.jpg Amen!

I think that Caress was their only real Progressive Rock Album. 2112 was a rocking album with complex time signature, but Passage and so on were your hard, complex rock tunes Rush is famous for. Funny thing though? Talk progressive about politics, then you're label a commie, music? You're blue blood. An elite.

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QUOTE (blonde77th @ Jun 17 2006, 08:06 AM) when i said clobber you i meant whack you upside your head not a fight........ you seem to stretch everything beyond reality ....i thought this was done ?? Go play & get your life going in the right way ......there has to be something to get you interested in something else ..now let my whack upside your head go & have a great day is Saturday ! Hey Blondie, I'd still have you arrested, why? This is a Rush fansite and we're Rush fans. We don't resort to violence, we're above that. We have dialogue, not slap someone upside their head. Yes it is Saturday, so vent your anger by going to a carnival and Whack a Mole or something

QUOTE (blonde77th @ Jun 16 2006, 06:56 PM) QUOTE (Asian Rush Fan @ Jun 16 2006, 08:36 PM) QUOTE (porthleven's rose @ Jun 16 2006, 10:30 AM) QUOTE (blonde77th @ Jun 15 2006, 03:30 PM) Either single or he had a bad relationship and she left and is seeking or getting support ,by his attitude i say he was at fault and is just bitter about it but still no excuse to come down hard on anyone ! -oh Absolutely--- having had experience of long-term abuse-- --they never give up-- Good on Ya all who escape,its worth it!! When Blond77 said she wanted hit me, I was going to call the police. This kind of confuse me poth, if you were in an abusive relationship, why didn't you get out? I had a chick who wanted to stab me and I left her. Why is it you're a victim of abuse, when you could have left and not become one? And why is it that I'm an abuser? I didn't hurt her, beat her up or something evil? Why deflect your past on me? is it easier? Does the responsibility of using common sense allayed by the anger of me? I always wondered about that. i said if you were in eye sight of me !! Being you are in another country sorry my arm isn't that long !! Wow, you sure are angry. So this is how you resolve your anger, by using violence. is this what you want to teach a 16-year-old? Why not tell her to not have a boyfriend and get an education and a career, no, you resort to fisticuffs. What kind of example are you? You criticize me for being so rude and crude, but your solution is violence. Trust me, if to do resort to violence, keep in mind, I never lost a fight. I don't care you're a chick, because, i will do everything in my power to defend myself. The broad who tried to stab me? Guess what, i knocked her out and her jaw was broken. There was blood everywhere and to add insult to injury, she was carted away to General Hospital and to Sybil Brand Institute. She copped a guilty plea for a lighter sentence and I didn't have to go to court.

QUOTE (fendergirl4001 @ Jun 16 2006, 02:39 PM) QUOTE (blonde77th @ Jun 14 2006, 01:36 PM) QUOTE (chaotica @ Jun 14 2006, 03:03 PM) QUOTE (Asian Rush Fan @ Jun 14 2006, 12:06 PM) QUOTE (fendergirl4001 @ Jun 9 2006, 05:44 PM)Sorry to spoil the mood... If y'all can't tell, my views on love have changed a bit. The "love of my life" has walked out on me without giving me any sort of sign. Why would he do that? Sorry, I'm still in a state of shock... He ended it at 12:25 this afternoon. Today was the last day of school. Seriously, Ihad a boyfriend until mid-fifth period. How and why the hell? Waaaaa, now imagine the same feeling, add child support and/or alimony for the rest of your life? Cry a storm. most guys won't care, because, what you feel in infatuation, men feel with a house attached to it. The reason women leave men? Jerk? abusive, etc? Guess what, who married the jerk? Who allowed the jerk to impregnate the woman? Who allowed the woman to express her feelings to her love? She did. Buck up. Stop acting like a baby and consider your losses as a learning experience. Tough common sense from a fellow Rush listener. Even as young as you. Don't ya think this is a little harsh? She's only a kid and ya she got a bad deal right now but she will get over her hardship and learn... but thats what growing up is about.... As a fellow rush fan I think you can give words of encouragement and support and gentle reassurement instead of belittling her... Thats my opinion Ok from your B/D i take you are in your early 30's right ...... and she is only 16 years old ...... so big difference on life experiences don't YOU THINK !! I find you more than a little Harsh !! I have never wanted to sound off at anyone in this forum until NOW!!! You need to take under concideration of this girl's age for #1 ........ how did you do when you had your first heart break ??? I remember mine well & i cried for weeks over it just to let you know thats Normal....... so you know it is true Women of any age do a Heart but you on the other hand i don't think so or where you hurt that bad that you think you can take it out on a Teenager, someone who is in the middle of becoming a young Lady & a Woman ....... oh i am trying to watch what i say in this family forum if you where here in my eye sight i just might want to clobber you !! Please think twice before you come on so strong with a younger person !!!!!!!! Or is it because you are one of those JERKS that have to pay child & alimony for life Is this what is getting your dander up ....well the way i feel it takes 2 to tangle so if you make a child but don't want to be around then Yes support support support !!!!!! Hey, it's ok guys... I get the point and I'm over the little jerk. At least what he did, anyway. I now refuse all advice to call him and ask if we can be friends. I hardly want to acknowledge his existance, let alone want to talk to the little shit. but I feel I am being pretty mature about it otherwise. My life is confusing enough w/out him controlling me. Good for you. Don't get in to any serious relationship, graduate high school, go to college, get a degree, find a career you love, buy a home, get what you need ad around 25 years old, start looking for a good man. you are too young to share your love with someone.

QUOTE (porthleven's rose @ Jun 16 2006, 10:30 AM) QUOTE (blonde77th @ Jun 15 2006, 03:30 PM) Either single or he had a bad relationship and she left and is seeking or getting support ,by his attitude i say he was at fault and is just bitter about it but still no excuse to come down hard on anyone ! -oh Absolutely--- having had experience of long-term abuse-- --they never give up-- Good on Ya all who escape,its worth it!! When Blond77 said she wanted hit me, I was going to call the police. This kind of confuse me poth, if you were in an abusive relationship, why didn't you get out? I had a chick who wanted to stab me and I left her. Why is it you're a victim of abuse, when you could have left and not become one? And why is it that I'm an abuser? I didn't hurt her, beat her up or something evil? Why deflect your past on me? is it easier? Does the responsibility of using common sense allayed by the anger of me? I always wondered about that.

QUOTE (Alsgalpal @ Jun 15 2006, 11:58 AM) QUOTE (Asian Rush Fan @ Jun 14 2006, 09:06 AM) QUOTE (fendergirl4001 @ Jun 9 2006, 05:44 PM)Sorry to spoil the mood... If y'all can't tell, my views on love have changed a bit. The "love of my life" has walked out on me without giving me any sort of sign. Why would he do that? Sorry, I'm still in a state of shock... He ended it at 12:25 this afternoon. Today was the last day of school. Seriously, Ihad a boyfriend until mid-fifth period. How and why the hell? Waaaaa, now imagine the same feeling, add child support and/or alimony for the rest of your life? Cry a storm. most guys won't care, because, what you feel in infatuation, men feel with a house attached to it. The reason women leave men? Jerk? abusive, etc? Guess what, who married the jerk? Who allowed the jerk to impregnate the woman? Who allowed the woman to express her feelings to her love? She did. Buck up. Stop acting like a baby and consider your losses as a learning experience. Tough common sense from a fellow Rush listener. Even as young as you. I bet your single, right? Nope, dating for more than eight years and living together for one.

QUOTE (chaotica @ Jun 14 2006, 01:03 PM)QUOTE (Asian Rush Fan @ Jun 14 2006, 12:06 PM) QUOTE (fendergirl4001 @ Jun 9 2006, 05:44 PM)Sorry to spoil the mood... If y'all can't tell, my views on love have changed a bit. The "love of my life" has walked out on me without giving me any sort of sign. Why would he do that? Sorry, I'm still in a state of shock... He ended it at 12:25 this afternoon. Today was the last day of school. Seriously, Ihad a boyfriend until mid-fifth period. How and why the hell? Waaaaa, now imagine the same feeling, add child support and/or alimony for the rest of your life? Cry a storm. most guys won't care, because, what you feel in infatuation, men feel with a house attached to it. The reason women leave men? Jerk? abusive, etc? Guess what, who married the jerk? Who allowed the jerk to impregnate the woman? Who allowed the woman to express her feelings to her love? She did. Buck up. Stop acting like a baby and consider your losses as a learning experience. Tough common sense from a fellow Rush listener. Even as young as you. Don't ya think this is a little harsh? She's only a kid and ya she got a bad deal right now but she will get over her hardship and learn... but thats what growing up is about.... As a fellow rush fan I think you can give words of encouragement and support and gentle reassurement instead of belittling her... Thats my opinion Of course it's tough, but who's going to teach the guys? In divorce or separation, women have more rights than men. Do we complain? No. We just work to pay the child support and alimony. I have a girlfriend and she was surprised how divisive the courts are. It's depressing to hear a foreign woman speak badly of American women, when this is my country. you know what? I had my heart broken when my ex left me or I caught her in bed with another guy. Guess what instead of crying or killing her, I went forward. I hope she could do the same.

[i. Into the Darkness] 'As grey traces of dawn tinge the eastern sky, the three travelers, men of Willowdale, emerge from the forest shadow. Fording the River Dawn, they turn south, journeying into the dark and forbidding lands of the Necromancer Even now the intensity of his dread power can be felt, weakening the body and saddening the heart Ultimately they will become empty, mindless spectres... stripped of will and soul, only their thirst for freedom gives them hunger for vengeance...' Silence shrouds the forest As the birds announce the dawn Three trav'llers ford the river And southward journey on The road is lined with peril The air is charged with fear The shadow of his nearness Weighs like iron tears [iI. Under the Shadow] 'Shreds of black cloud loom in overcast skies. The Necromancer keeps watch with his magic prism eyes. He views all his lands and is already aware of the three helpless invaders trapped in his lair...' Brooding in the tower Watching o'er his land Holding ev'ry creature Helplessly they stand Gaze into his prisms Knowing they are near Lead them to the dungeons Spectres numb with fear They bow defeated [iII. Return Of the Prince] 'Enter the Champion Prince By-Tor appears to battle for freedom from chains of long years The spell has been broken...the Dark Lands are bright. The Wraith of the Necromancer soars away in the night.' Stealthily attacking By-Tor slays his foe The men are free to run now From labyrinths below The Wraith of Necromancer Shadows through the sky Another land to darken With evil prism eye

I'm partial to Manhattan, Rush sang about my aunt