the masked drummer

"Spreading The Disease" is by far Scott's greatest drumming of all time. My God I am listening to this song right now.

It's.....

 

IMMACULATE!

Scott was a super nice guy when I talked to him a couple times. I still can't believe Tate spit on him in front of fans. What an asshole...

TATE SUX. That is all...

The saddest thing about Brian's departure is he never told the band he had to quit, only wanted to discuss his doctor's opinion. Then they dropped him off at the next block and posted to their webpage that Brian quit. That is simply not true based on what Brian said himself in interviews. Similar to Jon Anderson being canned from Yes at the drop of a hat...

Doesn't it just say he's helping them finish up this tour? Doesn't sound like the commitment goes any further than that.

agreed. I just hope axl's performances of "BBQ City" and "Whole Lotta Donuts" don't make my extra June 23 GNR tix lose value...

I didn't care much for most of his music, but his show on the Purple Rain Tour in 1984 was incredible and he was an amazing musician. I'm looking forward to the autopsy results. It's been rumored it was not a big surprise to people close to him when he died...

Mangini is the cat's ass, but I do miss the days of 1992/1993 when they were still hungry. I guess that could be said about any band, but that's my opinion as of lately. This last album sucked (in my unwanted opinion), so I didn't buy it. Maybe I'll give it another chance based on Tick's love for it tho. I'm going to take my latest groupie to the upcoming show and then decide whether I will buy it...

I haven't been on here in ages but finally had some free time to spend a lazy Saturday afternoon perusing the Internet and return to this forum.

 

I can't believe the bashing that is going on about Geddy's vocals on the tour and (in particular) the DVD/Blu-ray. I thought people on here were fans. Obviously (I think) the ones that are complaining are too young to understand aging. Yes, I too have noticed that Geddy no longer has that range of his youth, but he still "sounds like" himself! Trust me, I've seen every tour since AFTK and even in the 80's I noticed differences in his range from the 70's songs that were still in rotation. Part of it was growing as a vocalist and the fact that he did start taking vocal lessons and instead of "screaming" parts he was actually singing them!

 

I was at the second Toronto show and Ben Mink and the band doing Losing It for the first time ever live was the pinnacle!

 

Why is nobody focusing on the extremely great musicianship of these 3 in their mid 60's and can pull off some of the most complex compositions that they admit were difficult when they first recorded them (Hemispheres)? They put musicians a third of their age to shame!!!!

 

I thought the people on this forum were true fans (and understanding human beings). I guess I was wrong. I wish I could do the things I could 30-40 years ago but I can't (and, for the older members, I'm sure you can't either). Why do you expect them to do the same? For you younger members, you'll understand when you get to my age (50).

 

Peace out. Rush is still the greatest Rock band in my opinion and I thank them for 40 wonderful years of music. They owe me (or anyone else) NOTHING!

 

Good point. People in hell want icewater, too. Would these negative types be happier if Rush stopped before R40? That's the $64,000 question. I didn't go, but wish I had. Looked like some pretty damn good shit for 60-something metal gods to me...

I played a cancer benefit in Detroit a couple years ago , and we shot a video of the buddy guy song. Long live the blues...

James was a snobby prick to me in '92, bit portnoy talked to me and my buddy for 45 minutes before the show. Free, of course. Lol

Portly-Annoy doesn't have 10% of the ego as Scars-Ur-Rich, and also worth less than 10% of his net worth, too. For going in the hall of fame in modern drummer, Mikey is pretty level headed most of the time...

Without Bruford or Al Dimeola, that flavor will be missing... Especially Bruford with his Octabons he used on that stuff. Worth going to, though. Did you guys say Mike Portly-Annoy was doing the USA dates, or Mangina-Genie?

Pay close attention to Ringo's world-class drumming. I couldn't find anything from the studio sessions, so here you go...

the masked dildo has spoken, folks. ringo was not in the beatles at all.

 

a friend of a friend of an engineering major told me.

Hey, at least I actually know a couple insiders where I get my info on Neil and the band. One guy was a close friend of the family's, a promoter for Polygram, and I also worked with Skip Gildersleeve's classmate from Lincoln Park, Mich. I guess you're more informed because you know how to use a search engine, though. I've very proud of you and your wordly opinions that you get off yer mom's LCD screen. Well done.

Guys, guys... Ringo was not the only rock drummer who was given performance credit on albums he didn't play on. This is a common practice and has been going on since the advent of the multi-track recorder, and here's why, for anyone who doesn't know how it works:

Back when the Beatles were recording music, they didn't have pro tools or any type of editing equipment besides a splicing block, a pair of scissors, a rll of tape, and that's it. What this means is, in order to record a song, the drum part must be played perfectly, with all the subtle nuances that a pro recording demands before any other work gets done. Period. Since most drummers cannot play perfectly every time, they get session players in there so they can knock out the drums, get on with layering of the rest of the instruments, vocals, mixdown, then mastering. And there were TIGHT time restraints on top of it. Another big thing is, studio time is very, very expensive, not including the producer's time, engineer's time, etc. And then there was the cost of the tape, and only about 30 minutes of recording was possible on one reel. That's another cost... This means that, unless the drummer can NAIL drum parts in one or two takes, it makes much more sense to bring in a session player who can lay down all the drums tracks in like a day or two, then make it look like the drummer in the band played on the album because people are in love with the idea of the band being a tight-knit group who would never hire someone from the outside to play on records. People don't care about "who really played in the studio" anyway. That's why no one really talks about it besides engineers that heard it thru the grapevine. I, personally believe he didn't play on a lot of the stuff because there's no motivation to make up stories like that. Truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

I can site another example like this: In the 80's right thru to a few years ago everyone believed that Ozzy Osbourne's bassist and drummer for his first two solo albums were the guys pictured on the albums that were listed as the drummer and bassist. NOT TRUE. Daisley and Kerslake from Uriah Heap played on those albums and no one knew about it but those behind the scenes. This was kept a secret for decades. And the name of the band was "Blizzard of Ozz". It was not meant to be a SOLO Ozzy record at all The music biz makes these decisions in order to market the band in the name of profits. Just sayin...

 

Daisley and Kerslake are on the back of Blizzard. And Daisley had song writing credits on Diary. No one who cares ever thought Sarzo and Aldridge played on those albums.

 

And Sharon is the one who changed the cover, to promote Ozzy. But you're right that Rhoads, Daisley and Kerslake thought they joined a band.

 

False. Kerslake and Daisley were NOT credited on the original cassettes and records. Word was on the street in the 80's that Rudy and Tommy were the musicians on the first two records and they weren't.

And, in my final analysis my research indicates that Bernard Purdie played on over 20 beatles songs. Somewhere lies the truth, but we weren't there...

When you say "debate" as if your opinion is 100% correct, i must chuckle. The mere fact that those insiders you mentioned did not go on record spilling the beans doesnt validate or dismiss the notion. Any producer or engineer on retainer for the hugest bandbin the world has an assumed responsibility not to blab about anything which would adversely affect the bands reputation. Although theres no proof for my side, no one really knows but those insiders. Lets not be pretentuous here...

Guys, guys... Ringo was not the only rock drummer who was given performance credit on albums he didn't play on. This is a common practice and has been going on since the advent of the multi-track recorder, and here's why, for anyone who doesn't know how it works:

Back when the Beatles were recording music, they didn't have pro tools or any type of editing equipment besides a splicing block, a pair of scissors, a rll of tape, and that's it. What this means is, in order to record a song, the drum part must be played perfectly, with all the subtle nuances that a pro recording demands before any other work gets done. Period. Since most drummers cannot play perfectly every time, they get session players in there so they can knock out the drums, get on with layering of the rest of the instruments, vocals, mixdown, then mastering. And there were TIGHT time restraints on top of it. Another big thing is, studio time is very, very expensive, not including the producer's time, engineer's time, etc. And then there was the cost of the tape, and only about 30 minutes of recording was possible on one reel. That's another cost... This means that, unless the drummer can NAIL drum parts in one or two takes, it makes much more sense to bring in a session player who can lay down all the drums tracks in like a day or two, then make it look like the drummer in the band played on the album because people are in love with the idea of the band being a tight-knit group who would never hire someone from the outside to play on records. People don't care about "who really played in the studio" anyway. That's why no one really talks about it besides engineers that heard it thru the grapevine. I, personally believe he didn't play on a lot of the stuff because there's no motivation to make up stories like that. Truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

I can site another example like this: In the 80's right thru to a few years ago everyone believed that Ozzy Osbourne's bassist and drummer for his first two solo albums were the guys pictured on the albums that were listed as the drummer and bassist. NOT TRUE. Daisley and Kerslake from Uriah Heap played on those albums and no one knew about it but those behind the scenes. This was kept a secret for decades. And the name of the band was "Blizzard of Ozz". It was not meant to be a SOLO Ozzy record at all The music biz makes these decisions in order to market the band in the name of profits. Just sayin...

If you believe the common perception that Ringo played in the studio then you probably don't believe Neil E. Peart used to read scriptures out of the bible before every show. No one talks about that, yet I know a guy (formerly with Polygram) who saw it with his own two eyes many times in the 80's. Not everything that happens behind the scenes becomes public knowledge. You can't rely on the internet for the truth in some cases. Some things are not documented.

It's a known fact. Obviously, the mainstream media wouldn't know. The engineers know. He told two engineers. they told two engineer buddies, etc... that's how i found out, was from a sound engineer buddy from Detroit. I guess it's going to remain a pretty good secret...

You guys need to research it before jumping to conclusions. He may be a great live drummer but he did not play in the studio, which is a common practice, especially before pro tools and non linear editing of sound waves. Its also a common practice to credit the band member. Sad, but reality.

You guys need to research it before jumping to conclusions. He may be a great live drummer but he did not play in the studio, which is a common practice, especially before pro tools and non linear editing of sound waves. Its also a common practice to credit the band member. Sad, but reality.

I voted for Charlie Watts, and here's why:

Ringo Starr played on about as many Beatles studio tracks that ace frehley played on Kiss tracks on. Well, actually, I'm not sure if Ringo actually played at all in the studio. There's been speculation bouncing off studio walls for 50 years about that subject.

Must be nice to have a $400M net worth when you're not good enough to lay down tracks in the studio, that's all i've got to say... Ringo got a sweet gig.

At least Charlie played most of his parts, from what I understand. PLUS... Charlie is a jazz player, which means he's in a whole different galaxy than most rock players. Jazz is the hardest stuff to play.

Steven Adler Guns N Roses. Blows Matt Sorum away. Too bad the drugs got in the way.

I thought I was the only one. I liked Steve's drum parts better, too. He did shoot himself in the foot with coke, though.