kazzman

"attention whored their way in"........

Dude, they are one of the most important Metal bands of ALL TIME. That is a fact.......

Yeah so ? Who gives a shit, thats not why they are where they are, and you know it. Read my last post. It makes perfect sense.

Examine what your saying for a minute and think hard...

The "rock and roll hall of fame" just inducted Metallica.... Say it again. Now say it again. Meditate on it.

Now read my last post again.

Your trying to give credit to a joke museum for getting something right ?

Meditate on that. Its bullshit if you think the reason they put them in is because there astute enough to recognize the brilliance of such an important act. You know its bullshit !

The same jackasses who have Ricky Nelson in, and Rush on the outs.

Yup, thats credible ?

Is it a little clearer now.

Are you going to contribute something new to the argument, or are you just going to keep acting like a broken record, repeating the same thing over and over again? So you don't like that Metallica got inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame and that Rush hasn't. We get that. So you think the HOF is a joke. We get that too. Here's something I want you to meditate on:

WHO THE f**k CARES?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

It's just music. It's subjective. My ying to your yang. I could sit here and give you an argument as to why I think Mario Lemieux was a better hockey player than Wayne Gretzky, but I won't because it's pointless to and it wouldn't accomplish anything. Why should you care who gets into a Hall of Fame that you keep calling a joke? Should it really matter that much as to who is inducted and who isn't?

Gretsky was better then Lemieux. No arguement there.

Your an arrogant person Kaz, and if you don't like my opinions, tough shit.

This coming from someone who refuses to take the other side of debate into question. Kazz hit the nail on the head with everything he's said thus far, and you've come back with nothing but the same old bullshit argument time and time again. Their pre Load material is what made them so well known in the public eye, it's what made them big enough for people to give a shit about them making Some Kind of Monster. You're too arrogant to realize that an artist's "shortcomings" in recent years does not by any means discredit their past work and influence on a genre. You claim that Yes should be in the rock hall, yet they completely conformed to pop culture with albums like Tormato and 90125. Should this discredit classics like Fragile and Close to the Edge? Of course not. I'm not one to bash on others simply based on their opinions, but when your defense has nothing but contradictory support backing your claims, you bring it upon yourself.

I don't care who you think is right. Your all missing the boat, and the point.

I will repeat. Without them posturing to be pop icons, they aint in yet.

The whole forum can disagree for all I care, but it woudn't make you right.

Oh, and Kazz is exactly what I said he is, and I care not if you agree with that either.

When it comes to music, Puppethead, and Kazz are two of the most smug and arrogant on this board. Thats my opinion and once again. I can give two shits if you or anyone else agrees.

I absolutely love the fact that you had to change the subject of the argument to me and puppetking being arrogant. That just goes to show how stupid this argument really has become. It seems like you're taking this a little too personal buddy. Maybe I'm wrong, in which that case I would love to be proven wrong.

Seriously? I'm arrogant? That's the best you can come up with? I dunno. I've studied music my entire life and I make my living based around music. Maybe I am arrogant. I'll take it as a compliment if I am. I could easily turn around and say the same thing about you, because you've most definitely shown qualities of arrogance, but I won't. Why? Because it's silly and childish to do so.

Again, I'll ask you this question because you keep dancing around it and not giving a straight answer: Why should you even care who gets in to the HOF when you call it a pile of crap?

Me.

I did answer your question Kazz. I said, I hate the fact it is a pile of crap, and want it to be what it should have been. Thats why it bothers me. The reason I call you arrogant is because you have made your snide comments in the DT thread for years, just as you did in this thread. As far as you being a musician, what bearing does that have on your opinions ? That makes them more relevant then a non musician ?

I've been a musician over 20 years, I guess my opinions just got more relevant.

Its nice that you think your taking the high road, but your post was still arrogant.

And what I said about Dream Theater 4 years ago has what to do with what we're talking about now? Oh yeah, that's right. My arrogance. Like I said, maybe I am arrogant. That's just the way I am. Too bad if you don't like it.

As far as me being a musician has absolutely nothing to do with the relevance on my opinions. It just shows how big of a part music plays in my life. When I listen to music, I'll sit down and analyze it. I'll break it down. If I think it's good then I'll say it. If I think it's bad then I'll say that too. Sure, there's a lot of bands out there who I think don't deserve all of the awards, album sales and overall credit that they're receiving, but that still doesn't take away from the respect I have for them as a musician. Why do I have respect for them? Because they're up there doing something they love and receiving awards and honors that I probably will never receive in my lifetime. Like James Hetfield said in his acceptance speech (or was it Lars?): The Hall represents achieving your dreams. As much of a "pile of crap" it may be to some, it's still a huge honor to be inducted into it. Why? Because your name will live on forever.