ReflectedLight
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i'd put the first 7 all better than the garden but than again i'm not a fan of the garden. i'd also put out of the cradle over the garden.
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The Garden
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QUOTE (Pause Rewind Replay @ Jul 15 2012, 03:45 AM) Since the 5th listen, I've skipped it every time through. Never sang along to a word of it. 
same here.
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QUOTE (NYM86 @ Jul 14 2012, 10:43 PM) QUOTE (spock @ Jul 14 2012, 10:27 PM) Or, at least ready for the new TOOL album 
Not trying to derail the thread but is this official?
heard it's suppose to be out some time in the near future.
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QUOTE (jnoble @ Jul 14 2012, 06:45 PM) QUOTE (spock @ Jul 14 2012, 06:38 PM) QUOTE (condemned2bfree @ Jul 13 2012, 02:59 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jul 13 2012, 08:17 PM) The thing about the brick walling thing as regards Clockwork Angels, is that the album isn't that loud, I have to turn it up higher to get the same volume level as S&A but it's much "hotter" how's that work?
from what you have described as opposed to my opinion of ca, its likely from the recording/mixing stage compression eq et cetra, of instruments at that stage. For me alex's style of playing contributes
to the overall sound, i mean its not as linear as the 80's - lots of chords.
anyhoo im a bit of an audiophile, but not to the extent where my enjoyment is marred by slight issues here, ca remains fantastic ....... a really amazing record.
Im with lennon on this one; a great album remains so, even if its recorded on a tape recorder. A polarizing view, but a perception that rings true for me.
A Ha! That's it: "Lots of chords". That's been something that's been going on since VT. It's much more DA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA than I've ever known before. Alex used to get a lot of love for his unique arpeggios and great riffs ('cause it was true), but I feel like VT+SA+CA is an onslaught/wall of guitars that sometimes works and sometimes just washes everything else away. Not much subtlety or finesse, just RAWWWWKKKK.
Is that bad? I won't say 'yes', I'll just say that sometimes it's messier than it needs to be. I can't point to specific parts off the top of my head, but I know there are parts of several CA songs where I just cannot tell what any particular bass or guitar is doing behind the vocals.
I don't know anything about producing or mixing, but since S&A and CA seem to have the same sorts of issues, well...wonder what Peter Collins or Terry Brown might be doing when the next album comes around
Ceiling Unlimited
good tune.
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QUOTE (jnoble @ Jul 14 2012, 06:27 PM) the chorus on this song, both the words themselves and the way Geddy sings them and the repetition, is really annoying 
+1
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i'm not sure if i mentioned this before but the mets bullpen sucks.
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QUOTE (OGr8imL84AD8inF8sBlackSedan @ Jul 14 2012, 04:59 PM) Yep....Garden of Eden.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/teeth_rock/olive_garden.jpgthe only problem i have with that picture is that the olive garden sucks.
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QUOTE (jnoble @ Jul 14 2012, 05:55 PM) How about Neil doesn't pen any cringe-inducing lines like "Thank your stars you're not that way"
"Thank your stars"??
That's a dated old-timey expression my grandmother would use if grandma used it it's ok in my book.
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QUOTE (rrzubnyy @ Jul 14 2012, 12:56 PM) QUOTE (greg2112 @ Jul 13 2012, 05:19 AM) I'd much rather hear deep classics that they havent played since the golden era rather than songs theyve never played before. I want to hear Something for Nothing!
i would like to hear it also but it's not happening. ged can't reach those high notes anymore.
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QUOTE (snowdogged @ Jul 14 2012, 11:38 AM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 14 2012, 09:30 AM) Some see BU2B2 as positive because of some of the words, but I can't see it that way. Neil has a history of writing lyrics like this - he heaps on the negativity, doubt, depression and despair, and then adds some conditional, strained positivity that he's reaching towards at the end as if that's supposed to make up for what came before. I never liked that at all, and I like it even less with BU2B2:
Negative:
I don't believe in destiny
or the guiding hand of fate
I don't believe in forever
or love as a mystical state
I don't believe in the stars or the planets
or angels watching from above
Barely Positive:
But I believe there's a ghost of a chance
we can find someone to love
and make it last
Negative:
I don't have faith in faith
I don't believe in belief
You can call me faithless
Barely Positive:
I still cling to hope
And I believe in love
And that's faith enough for me
And worst of all:
Negative:
I was brought up to believe
Belief has failed me now
The bright glow of optimism
Abandoned me somehow
Belief has failed me now
Life goes from bad to worse
No philosophy consoles me
In a clockwork universe
Life goes from bad to worse
Barely positive:
I still choose to live
Find a measure of love and laughter
And another measure to give
I still choose to live
And give, even while I grieve
Though the balance tilts against me
I was brought up to believe
It's kind of an attitude of life sucks and then you die, but I'm going to try and make the best of it anyway with a ghost of a chance of success, clinging to hope and finding a measure of positivity even though the deck is stacked against me. Sorry, don't like it and never did...
I think that your interpretation of all of those lyrics are the negative thing. Within all of the lyrics you presented I believe that the message is individuality and forming your own beliefs and not conforming to an idealistic that society or parts of society try to push upon you. Just because someone does not believe in a God that no one can prove exists or not does not make them a negative person.
i guess it's no different than having a liberal professor in college with certain viewspoints and trying to push it on students?
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i thought the album was ok when it first came out but nothing special, and it certainly hasn't stood the test of time for me. i don't even listen to it anymore.
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QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Jul 13 2012, 11:34 PM)
The guitars are to f*cking loudso what's the problem?
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QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 14 2012, 09:30 AM) Some see BU2B2 as positive because of some of the words, but I can't see it that way. Neil has a history of writing lyrics like this - he heaps on the negativity, doubt, depression and despair, and then adds some conditional, strained positivity that he's reaching towards at the end as if that's supposed to make up for what came before. I never liked that at all, and I like it even less with BU2B2:
Negative:
I don't believe in destiny
or the guiding hand of fate
I don't believe in forever
or love as a mystical state
I don't believe in the stars or the planets
or angels watching from above
Barely Positive:
But I believe there's a ghost of a chance
we can find someone to love
and make it last
Negative:
I don't have faith in faith
I don't believe in belief
You can call me faithless
Barely Positive:
I still cling to hope
And I believe in love
And that's faith enough for me
And worst of all:
Negative:
I was brought up to believe
Belief has failed me now
The bright glow of optimism
Abandoned me somehow
Belief has failed me now
Life goes from bad to worse
No philosophy consoles me
In a clockwork universe
Life goes from bad to worse
Barely positive:
I still choose to live
Find a measure of love and laughter
And another measure to give
I still choose to live
And give, even while I grieve
Though the balance tilts against me
I was brought up to believe
It's kind of an attitude of life sucks and then you die, but I'm going to try and make the best of it anyway with a ghost of a chance of success, clinging to hope and finding a measure of positivity even though the deck is stacked against me. Sorry, don't like it and never did... agreed.
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QUOTE (GANRUSH2 @ Jul 13 2012, 07:59 PM)
On a side note, off topic.. on tour I pray they don't add string parts to other songs (just because the orchestra is there).yea i really don't want the orchestra or strings used on anything but the ca songs. if they start using it on some vault tunes they might break out, that would be a disappointment.
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QUOTE (Tick @ Jul 13 2012, 06:59 PM) QUOTE (GeminiRising79 @ Jul 13 2012, 06:20 PM) I bet its a masterpiece after a few bong hits. Well then, have a couple.
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i don't follow their every move and don't have all the albums but i like the scorpions. saw them at monsters of rock back in 88. they are loud.
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QUOTE (GeminiRising79 @ Jul 13 2012, 05:20 PM) I bet its a masterpiece after a few bong hits. so you don't like any of the songs?
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QUOTE (thesweetscience @ Jul 13 2012, 04:23 PM) QUOTE (Mara @ Jun 30 2012, 11:11 AM) So who has Waffle House franchises near them? They're an institution here in the South. Several waffle houses near me. I love them.
Also if you beat your eggs properly(which you should if you are making an omelet) they will be light and fluffy enough!! It is also a sin to add milk. A pox upon anyone who would do such a thing!!
i add a few drops of water when mixing up scrambled. helps in not burning the eggs or overcooking. i usually step away here and there so this saves me now and then.
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QUOTE (vespa2112 @ Jul 13 2012, 04:16 PM) QUOTE (canadianice @ Jul 13 2012, 01:35 PM) QUOTE (vespa2112 @ Jul 13 2012, 01:05 PM) QUOTE (Gompers @ Jul 13 2012, 10:53 AM) At about 2:26, Neil's fill is way too low in the mix. That fill should be in your face. Not to mention the high toms sound like he is hitting thick books. The low toms again suffer from lows that sound like they are coming from a car's subwoofer across the street...very muddy. Haha... EXACTLY!!! Although when I listen, I picture Neil hitting cardboard boxes for the toms.
Seriously... you would think the GREATEST LIVING DRUMMER would like his drums to sound like drums on a major CD release - not wet paper bags, cardboard, or thick books. WTF ?
Perhaps they will re-record it with you on drums---Give me a friggin break
Huh?
when you criticize the production/engineering, the fanboi's take it as a direct insult to the band members and in turn rub the fanboi's the wrong way.
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QUOTE (treeduck @ Jul 13 2012, 03:02 PM) QUOTE (condemned2bfree @ Jul 13 2012, 02:59 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jul 13 2012, 08:17 PM) The thing about the brick walling thing as regards Clockwork Angels, is that the album isn't that loud, I have to turn it up higher to get the same volume level as S&A but it's much "hotter" how's that work?
from what you have described as opposed to my opinion of ca, its likely from the recording/mixing stage compression eq et cetra, of instruments at that stage. For me alex's style of playing contributes
to the overall sound, i mean its not as linear as the 80's - lots of chords.
anyhoo im a bit of an audiophile, but not to the extent where my enjoyment is marred by slight issues here, ca remains fantastic ....... a really amazing record.
Im with lennon on this one; a great album remains so, even if its recorded on a tape recorder. A polarizing view, but a perception that rings true for me.
Yeah my complaints aren't large, it's more a nitpicking thing. It's not a bad sounding album in terms of production, it's just not as clean and organic as I'd like it to be.
there's that word again, "organic".
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QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 13 2012, 02:34 PM) QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jul 13 2012, 11:59 AM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 13 2012, 01:40 PM) QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jul 12 2012, 05:21 PM) QUOTE (theredtamasrule @ Jul 12 2012, 07:17 PM)
CA is metal. I f***ing love this album.
it's ok if you think it's metal even though it's not.
It's actually pretty close to metal in quite a few places...
certain spots but not many. too bad they couldn't keep it heavy all the way through.
You want them to be a heavy metal band?
I often find it funny when people refer to slow as being not heavy. For example, S&A had plenty of heavy songs that just weren't lightning fast. Outside of songs like The Larger Bowl, Hope and BU2B2, all of the songs on the last couple of albums are still pretty heavy in my book. Even Halo Effect and The Wreckers are heavy in most places, just not as fast as some of their other stuff.
I personally like it when all the songs aren't coming at you like a freight train.
it would have been interesting but i like slower tunes. heck i like barry manilow. the wreckers isn't my cup of tea and i don't hear any heaviness in there. halo effect isn't bad but please don't start in with the s & a stuff. lets take a break it's friday.
BU2B2
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