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  1. On 12/2/2023 at 10:08 PM, snowdog2112 said:

     We obviously all hope you're right, I'm just trying to keep my expectations low. As I've said, we'll know one way or another soon, within a year. If it exists and will ever be released then between the GUP 40th anniversary and the band's 50th anniversary there's no other reasonable opportunity, if it's not this next year then I think that will settle it.

     

    My expectations are as high as they can get. If we don't get an audio CD of the full GUP show and a blu-ray which includes the found footage, I will be beyond crushed. I suppose most of the Terry Brown era fans will never get this but the GUP era is MY Rush and this is my grail.

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  2. 20 hours ago, ytserush said:

     

     

    First of all I would expect such a denial. (I've only ever had an issue with that one quote not the entire article.Unless you are reading carefully it's easy to miss.) Just because that article was replicated hundreds or even thousands of times on various platforms does not mean it is not a single-sourced article that has not been supported in nearly 20 years. There has never been any independent verification from anyone.

    Except for the first two paragraphs, the rest of the argument undercuts that specific quote and supports what many of us have been saying for the last 20 or 30 years. While it's certainly  possible that there may be this footage how much care was taken to preserve it and is it even usable?

     

    The FOGO guys sure make it sound like it's something special.

  3. To all that think the 2005 article about the recovery of the lost GUP footage is BS, here's a response from the author:

     

    "Since I was on the phone with Pierre Lamoureux for 90 minutes I should know it's true and not only did Fogo use the interview and article in press releases from Zoe Records and over 700 news wires at the time but it helped draw traffic to their other releases. If it wasn't real I would have been fired and they would have issued a statement from Fogo and Anthem SRO that it wasn't real.
    It's hysterical to me that this is still being debated. Businesses and artists and labels change their mind on things constantly. As a matter of fact Pierre himself even said in the article and quote the final decisions are left with the band.
    Pegi one day in a long phoner I did with her said if we release the unreleased stuff now (this particular conversation with her took place around 2006-07) we might as well close shop because there's not a ton of rare video on hand as it is. Audio was and is a totally different story.
    The band never did any forward thinking. Ever. They put the money for budgets for filming into the show. They threw what they didn't use for Exit Stage Left in the dumpster. Mercury/Polygram didn't do promo videos for Permanent Waves although the band was getting huge because they did videos for A Farewell To Kings and Hemispheres and it didn't help or really see airplay anywhere. The band had the decision to invest in their own show or film promos on their own dime. They were told City TV was dumping all of their tapes in the 2000s and to get down there because there was a TON filmed by them over the decades.
    You know who they sent?
    Nobody.
    So yes, Pierre said they had the missing Grace footage but were still looking for who had the ASOH. Grant Lough lives in Boca Raton. I spoke to him at great length about Exit and the Signals video shoots. He said the concert was cut for television only. Not with any future technology in mind and that if anyone had any of the footage it was either stolen or went to some storage facility but his memory was that it went to the cutting room floor and tossed.
    Trust me. I wish MANY shows were released. The Counterparts show, the RTB shows from Auburn Hills, the one that Atlantic recorded while also shooting a Mr. Big video.in Irvine. They totally forgot they had the 3-D film they show at the Molson Amphitheatre for Snakes and Arrows in July 2008. A lot of this stuff the labels or the management didn't want to spend the money doing anything with it. So when they sold to Ole/Anthem it all went into their hands.
    The Signals box set didn't even make the Top 200 albums chart on Billboard. It was so outrageously over-priced. Every box set before it sold well. Budgets budgets budgets. The fan base isn't getting younger. It's infuriating that Anthem hasn't brought in a team of historians to do their archives correctly."

  4. 46 minutes ago, thizzellewashington said:

    I must have missed this at the time (or it wasn't publicized) but there's a little note in the last chapter of Geddy's book that after the final tour, the three of them did one of those deals to cash out and sell their publishing to one of those companies that buys artists' catalogs. So I don't know how much control Geddy and Alex would even have over archival releases at this point.

     

    From what I've heard, Anthem/OLE controls everything with the back catalog but whether there's a gentleman's agreement or it's written, supposedly Geddy, Alex and Carrie get consulted. Previously, Geddy has said that Alex is more interested in the archival stuff than he is, so maybe he gives more input? Who really knows?

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  5. Just now, ytserush said:

     

    Then you're in a position to ask if those things are in the vault from someone who would know. and you'll have your definitive answers.

     

    I'm not in a position to get any such answers. Again, I'm just a dumb fan. He let me know he was back at Anthem/OLE. He's not going to risk his job and leak me insider info. Haha. I just thought you'd all be happy to know that IF any more Super Deluxes come out, at least Andy is there to be the fans' advocate. Hopefully, they won't repeat the Signals debacle under his watchful eye.

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  6. 23 minutes ago, ytserush said:

     

    At least that specific quote in that article is fake. Doesn't matter who wrote it. There is also NO supporting evidence in nearly 20 years that has come out about this claim from ANYONE. The video posted recently that the Rush stuff that has been cataloged does not even mention anything about any live material.

     

    I'd love to have "works in progress" material but I'm sure Geddy refuses to have it see the light of day. After just reading about his dismissive attitude on the first single it seems very unlikely there will be an official release of that either.

     

    Ummm...we got live material we were told was never going to happen because of sync issues: the Test For Echo Tour footage on the R40 box set.

  7. 35 minutes ago, ytserush said:

     

    There are at least several interviews where he said that he left (But never mentioned it was more of a hiatus.) Haven't seen an account that he returned but that doesn't mean that he didn't.

     

    If he told you that maybe he'll tell you what is still usable in the vault since he's in the position to know what is and isn't there that has not deteriorated.

     

     

     

    I'm just a dumb fan. He's not going to share that type of info with me. I wish! Haha. I'm just glad he's back. Gives me a lot of hope GUP gets done right: Blu-Ray of the ENTIRE show and an audio CD! Again, he did not confirm any contents or if it's happening but I feel a lot more hope with Andy there.

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  8. 1 hour ago, ytserush said:

     

    One of at least several other accounts that he said he left though to be fair he seems to been pretty quiet lately. Not heard from a credible source that he went back but I suppose it's possible.

    Spoke to him last night. He's back! He didn't give me any info on Grace which is understandable but...he IS back!

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  9. On 9/27/2021 at 10:27 PM, TheGhostRider said:

     

    It’s the full video. It has the entire song. The YouTube version does not have the full song. Don’t know why some of you are putting my words in quotes when it’s literally true. All you have to do it watch the video to see it’s missing segments of the song. It’s not malware, it won’t infect your computer, I uploaded it to help preserve the video as it should be viewed. Nothing more than that.

     

    Thanks for doing this. I still have my VHS AND the laserdisc. In fact, I've kept my laserdisc player just for this and some other Rush stuff. Unfortunately, I haven't yet learned how to digitize them. So silly that Universal can't put the full length one on YouTube.

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  10. On 11/22/2023 at 10:17 AM, Rush Didact said:

    The problem is that there's no one on the inside with a fan-like enthusiasm, the only logic is maximum revenue for minimum input.  Rush is purely a business now; Neil's gone and Ged and Al have no interest in dealing with archival stuff.

     

    They could remaster ESL and ASOH from the original negatives and do kickass bluray releases of the entire concerts, but they won't do that because it's expensive and time-consuming, and their profit margins will be slimmer than just re-releasing the ancient video transfers.

     

    They could release the 1997 Toronto concert, synchronization issues are easily fixed in this day and age and the video could be upscaled nicely, but they won't do it because they'd have to pay someone to fix it.

     

    Instead we get box sets with toy cars and backstage passes that are cheap to manufacture and take virtually no effort from anyone.

     

    Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed...

     

    1. We have Andy Curran on the inside again. Every fan of this era should rejoice!

    2. Don't worry about ancient video transfers. FOGO Labs already did the heavy lifting circa 2005: https://bravewords.com/news/rush-producer-director-talks-about-upcoming-dvds

        The only worries are will the label use the found Grace footage and audio? Is that too expensive to consider or is what FOGO did good enough? Did the extra footage of Exit...Stage Left get tossed as long rumored? Was the A Show of Hands footage ever found?

    3. The 1997 Toronto concert has been released! See https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/rush-r40-six-disc-blu-ray-live-set/

  11. 6 hours ago, Digital82 said:

    *you* are incorrect.  Andy *does* work for anthem

    My sincerest apologies. I just found out you're telling the truth. Sorry, so many misleading bullshitters over the years leaves one wary. Please accept my groveling apology.

     

    The news that Andy is back at Anthem/OLE is the greatest Christmas gift for which I could ask! Now, hope springs eternal that the footage FOGO Labs found back in the early 2000s will FINALLY see the light of day. A Neil Grace Under Pressure drum solo with Red Lenses!!! HOLY S!!!! What a gift!!! So very very happy!!!!

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  12. 3 hours ago, ytserush said:

     

    Did he leave at one point?  Is it incorrect to say that he has not been credited on recent reissues?

     

    Yes, he did indeed leave after the Permanent Waves Super Deluxe. I've seen that in print and he has told me that himself. No hard feelings or anything. He just had other projects to which he wanted to devote his time. I do not believe he is credited on the Moving Pictures Super Deluxe and I didn't buy the concertless Signals Super Deluxe so I don't know about that one. I just know he told me he did not work on that one.

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  13. 3 hours ago, ytserush said:

     

     

    Thanks for posting this. It's very interesting.  Though the mention they cataloged the vault there is no specific mention of any live material in this conversation. There's evidence that there is a vault but no evidence of what's in there aside from work in progress demos which kind of dispel the myth that there are no demos.

     

    Here ya go: https://bravewords.com/news/rush-producer-director-talks-about-upcoming-dvds

     

    Though, beware. Many in RUSH fandom hate the author of this article for whatever reason. Be that as it may, everything he has ever told me has absolutely come true. Hey, I don't like the author's politics but I do enjoy when he contributes info like this article.

     

    PS: Listening to the Geddy audiobook and just got through a chapter where he discusses when they started doing "proper" demos which was Power Windows. Those, most of us have heard on bootlegs and or YouTube (see below).

    PSS: I don't think the Tom Sawyer stuff they were discussing in that interview above were "demos" but more works in progress on tape.

     

     

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  14. 4 hours ago, ytserush said:

     

    They are putting themselves out there. Alex was just shredding with Tool, working on Envy Of None and who knows what else and Geddy is on his book tour and released to new songs.. They're moving forward not back.

    Geddy & Alex may be moving forward but Anthem/OLE control the back catalog and want to squeeze every penny out of their investment.

  15. 3 hours ago, Ged Lent's sis said:

    I'm late to the game here and there are too many comments on the thread to quote them all. Suffice it to say I agree more than wholeheartedly about an alternate live show, more specifically, one with the previous playlist that included the drum solo in the "Red Lenses" break. But a video version of the same is probably too much to hope for, isn't it?

    This one DOES have the Red Lenses/Drum Solo if we are to believe the 2005 interview that the Grace footage was found.

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