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They shouldn't have given up too early on that 20-minute-epic-orchestrated-Rivendell-fading-into-Tears-Medley. With the original spoken Necromancer introduction. Oh, and a polka version of Hemispheres. Complete, for sure. Maybe for R40?
Edited to say that it all has to be played in pink kimonos. You know, the pink of the false print of the first album.
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Power Windows their most popular 80s album? Not that I don't like that record, but even if you don't count Moving Pictures as an 80s record (for which there's no clear reason), this title would almost certainly go to Signals. I'd prefer Grace Under Pressure, though. Power Windows would even rank behind Presto and Hold Your Fire for me. In fact, they did only good albums in the 80s. Of which PW is certainly not their most popular.
[That said, I love the setlist and I'm looking forward to the German concerts in 2013!]
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QUOTE (dethroned emperor @ Oct 2 2012, 02:24 AM)
Grace Under Pressure - Distant Early Warning
Probably their best opener ever ... and the opener is usually the best song on the album.
To each his own though ...
Rush - In the Mood (cheesiest Rush song ever)
Fly by Night - Rivendell
Caress - ITIGB
2112 - Lessons
Farewell - Madrigal (though I even like that one a lot)
Hemispheres - Hemispheres (probably the easiest choice of all for me)
PermWaves - tough, but certainly not Different Strings. One of the most interesting songs in their catalogue. Entre nous, if any.
Moving Pictures - see above, with Vital Signs replacing Different Strings. And Limelight replacing Entre Nous.
Signals - Countdown, clearly
GUP - Between the Wheels (which is a 10/10 song among 11/10 songs)
Power Windows - Emotion Detector
Hold Your Fire - Tai Shan
Presto - Hand Over Fist
Roll the Bones - now there's a couple ... but it has to be Heresy for the lyrics and the dull music (nearly on par, though, with Bravado, Big Wheel and You Bet Your Life
Counterparts - The Speed of Love
Test for Echo - Virtuality (Dog Years has comical values, at least)
Vapor Trails - The Stars Look Down (as nearly all the others are great though not stellar, and I mean it)
Feedack: 7&7is
Snakes: Spindrift
Clockwork: Caravan, easily
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QUOTE (Bangster of Goats @ Sep 15 2012, 03:39 PM) I had foolishly sold off the W German (in the case of older Rush material) and other original release copies those remasters replaced. 
I did the same back in 1997 ... and I am (West) German.
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QUOTE (presto123 @ Sep 15 2012, 04:45 AM) Let me add:
Red Barchetta
Analog Kid
Weapon
Distant Early Warning
Between The Wheels
Marathon
Show Don't Tell
Presto
Headlong Flight
The Garden+1
... and in spite of some people obviously not bothering too much about that song, I'd add Red Sector A. Hope they'll keep it in the setlist until they reach Europe.
Oh ... and The Enemy Within!
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Maybe the one poll I just can't decide who to vote for. If Lizzy had continued - with Phil still alive; I don't mean the current "Thin Lizzy" - and maintained the quality standard they had until their very last album, I'd be rather likely to have two favourite and still existing bands today. With no clear preference. So ... I'll go with Jack Bruce.
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Alan White.
I'd prefer Ringo or Charlie Watts any time over him. Even Joey Kramer. Just listen to Roundabout or Close to the Edge when he's attempting to destroy these classics ...
Interesting that Dave Weckl has been mentioned as a good drummer. He's a human drum machine. Cf. Charlie Antolini. Bloodless.
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If it only were a Barchetta ...
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QUOTE (New World Kid @ Jul 18 2012, 07:16 PM) I'm not sure. I voted 8-10
1) Vapor Trails
2) Grace Under Pressure
3) Counterparts
4) Presto
5) Moving Pictures
6) Snakes and Arrows
7) Permanent Waves
Hey, I like the appreciation for Vapor Trails!
That's a top 5 album for me as well - though not better than GUP, MP, PeW or Signals.
Presto, HYF, Counterparts and AFTK are pretty great as well. CA might come next - which is rank 10, but it might have to share it with Fly By Night, Hemispheres, 2112 and Power Windows. The others are below.
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BU2B has enormously grown on the album. I really have started to love that song - although it still isn't their best on CA.
If all songs on CA had been like Caravan, though, it would have beaten Roll the Bones as definitely worst Rush album. Their worst opener ever!
So ... the break obviously has affected the recording process. To the better.
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QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Jul 16 2012, 07:08 PM) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyNpr3qwx74
I love this. It's so beautiful.
Here be friends...
here be heroes...
here be sunshine...
here be grey...
here be life...
here love lies bleeding...
memories so hazy...
and dreams that drove me crazy
here be down...
here be paradise...
here be starbright...
here be pain...
here be smiles in eyes like rainbows...
my father and my mother...
my sisters and my brother -
pictured within
where there're shadows ill met by moonlight...
there are dragons I have slain...
and here be bright eyes with hair so golden...
sunrise and sunset and running free...
and laughing at the rain
here be home...
here be travellin'...
here be thunder...
here be blue...
and Sometimes heaven and thoughts of wonder...
the Miracle of children...
a poet and a pilgrim
kith and kin - pictured within
lose and win - pictured withinThis is what I have been listening to for the last two hours or so - accompanied by "April", "Pictures of Home" and "Perfect Strangers".
One of the very few real gentlemen IN ROCK.
R.I.P., Jon.
Thanks for brightening up my youth.
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QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Jul 11 2012, 08:46 PM) QUOTE (Tick @ Jul 11 2012, 12:33 PM) For the first time ever the Rush top 10 albums have been scientifically placed in order, based on data and statistics, including, album sales, popularity among the masses, and beloved among the fans.
Here is the scientific list in order....
1. Permanent Waves- Universally accepted by casual fan and diehard as being as good as it gets.
2. Moving Pictures - Commercially successful monster that cemented Rush as a big time act.
3. 2112 - The album that really turned heads and started a cult movement that allowed Rush to explore and expand.
4. Hemispheres - The clearest choice among diehards make it a cinch for number 4.
5. Signals - Coming off the huge success from Moving Pictures, the band decides to shift gears and go another direction as the 80's pop scene is in full swing.
6. A Farewell To Kings - Produces Rush's sing along anthem, and an all time mega classic in Xanadu.
7. Clockwork Angels - The band is able to regenerate the fan base big time with an album that seems to encompass the best aspects of past Rush albums from each decade, and smoothing blends it all into an instant classic.
8. Grace Under Pressure - Band goes even more synth than Signals as it hones its 80's sound, and ushers in a host of new fans.
9. Presto - Rush closes the 80's with a statement its sound will be changing yet again as they usher in the 90's.
10. Vapor Trails - After being on a 5 year hiatus, it seemed the band might be finished but they come back strong with an album that bares Neils sole and says, we aint quite done yet.
My reliable sourcegreat list. Would switch out CP with Presto. AFTK and Hemispheres trade places. Power windows instead of G/P
Your analysis of CA is spot on!
Uhm .. no .. GP in 2112's place, at least. Or at No. 1 ...
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QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Jul 5 2012, 02:54 PM) Look how great of a singer Dio was, yet when he sang the Ozzy stuff with Sabbath it didn't sound too good. I beg to diifer. The only acceptable Sabbath live versions of classic Ozzy songs are on Live Evil.
BTW, Ozzy definitely belongs on this list.
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QUOTE (OGr8imL84AD8inF8sBlackSedan @ Jul 5 2012, 10:56 AM)
Robert Smith from The CureThanks!!!!
He defined what singing should not be (as The Cure is all about what rock music should not be in my ears)!
Billy Corgan is another clear choice, too.
And somebody mentioned Michael Kiske as an adequate replacement for Dickinson instead of Bailey back then. Not that Bailey was any good, but this guy's singing was atrocious - and fitted Helloween's music perfectly!
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Neurotica is ok. What I don't like, are Bravado, You Bet Your Life, Heresy and The Big Wheel. I'm not too much a fan of the title track either. Made too many songs to be a really good album back then. But 20 years on, I happen to listen to it from time to time and think it has aged better vthan I thought it would.
But as it was your first legit album - I completely understand you. That's where my soft spots for Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows and Hold Your Fire come from.
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QUOTE (xx2112xx @ Jul 7 2012, 06:48 PM) QUOTE (barchetta90480 @ Jul 7 2012, 04:45 AM) QUOTE (micgtr71 @ Jun 30 2012, 12:31 PM)
Face Up
Cut To The ChaseI really dig those two. And I mean it.
Could there actually be a second person who thinks Face Up is one of the better songs on an otherwise subpar RTB? I'd love to hear that one!
I like Neil's drumming quite a bit in Face Up. Really enjoy the intro.
Nice to read that. It seems to be one of the most hated or at least ignored songs in their catalogue. Of Dog Years notoriety - I have always really liked it and was even a bit let down when they didn't even play it on the RTB tour. Nice pop song, as far as Rush do pop songs.
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Best I Can 34, Beneath, Between, And Behind 23, Fly By Night 10, Making Memories 4, Rivendell 35
Cinderella Man 1
Heal MM
Hurt CM
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QUOTE (HemispheresserehpsimeH @ Jul 6 2012, 09:30 PM) QUOTE (barchetta90480 @ Jul 6 2012, 07:46 AM) QUOTE (HemispheresserehpsimeH @ Jul 6 2012, 04:53 AM) QUOTE (barchetta90480 @ Jul 5 2012, 05:08 PM) QUOTE (Rushman14 @ Jul 3 2012, 04:49 PM) QUOTE (Todem @ Jul 2 2012, 09:12 AM) Top 5 records for me
1) Operation Mind Crime
2) Empire
3) Rage For Order
4) Promised Land
5) Hear in the Now FrontierI would pick Warning over Promised Land, and definitely over HITNF.
... and definitely over Empire.
Nothing comes close to the other two - Rage was one of the boldest statements in 80s metal, and Mindcrime was, well, is, Mindcrime. Mind blowing. For me, they started their downward spiral with Empire. Promised Land and everyrthing after that is absolutely negligible. I do like two or three Now Frontier and American Soldier tunes, but that's nothing compared to old glory. So ... with or without Tate, it's over. Thanks for three brilliant records and a few more nicve songs.
See, I find Empire and Promised Land to be just as brilliant as Rage. But that's my taste for ya. Mindcrime is alone at the top for me.
Really? But on Rage, they did a few things you hadn't heard from any other (metal) band before. Empire was a rather well done pop-metal record (which couldn't be as great as its predecessor, but what could have been?), and Promised Land mainly repeated the Empire formula. That's why I don't dig that one. But songs like "Neue Regel" or "Walk in the Shadows" are still standout tracks in the history of 80s rock for me - as is that brilliant cover version of "Gonna Get Close To You". And "Roads to Madness", of course ...
I agree that Rage is ridiculously good. I'm just saying that post-Mindcrime, QR had set an insanely high bar for itself. But when I listen to Empire and Promised Land, they sound really fresh and have amazing songwriting. Even in the Promised Land liner notes, they talked about how much tension was in the band at the time and how hard it was to record that album. I guess it just makes me appreciate it more because of how well it turned out.
They're all great records of their time and that's why I love that period of QR so much.
I really had to listen to Promised Land again (for the first time in, say, ten years) - and you're right in many aspects. Some songs (especially during the first half) are well wrought, and it doesn't sound as dated as I thought it sounded in the 90s. It may be crucial when you were introduced to the band. My initiation was Warning, and that's why it stood the test of time pretty well for me. It may sound dated in 2012, but which 80s metal album doesn't? Number of the Beast, Defenders of the Faith, Fair Warning, Balls to the Wall, Ride the Lightning etc. - they all would sound different, were they produced today (thank God they aren't). So would Rage, Mindcrime and Empire. But they're all classics in their own right.
I may give Hear in the Now Frontier another spin now ... haven't REALLY listened to it for ages ...
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I'm with you on Prime Mover. But Open Secrets would be much more of a thrill. It's one of my favourite "never played live" songs (problably third only to Cut to the Chase and Peaceable Kingdom). I'd even enjoy High Water in the "ballads" section (instead of something like Mystic Rhythms, which I'm afraid they'll resurrect).
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QUOTE (micgtr71 @ Jun 30 2012, 12:31 PM)
Face Up
Cut To The ChaseI really dig those two. And I mean it.
Could there actually be a second person who thinks Face Up is one of the better songs on an otherwise subpar RTB? I'd love to hear that one!
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Really, EASIEST POLL ever ... That said, I knew I'd be a minority here, but Vapor Trails still ranks among their top 7 or 8 with me. A remaster might make it to the Top 5 quite easily. But I pretty much love CA so far (as long as I skip Caravan), and S&A is decent.
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He loves the Fleet Foxes (one of the best first albums of all time!) and he used to have a crush on a seminal Talk Talk album ... good taste, Ged (your other ones are obvious but fine)!
Moving Pictures/Power Windows/Counterparts
in On The Lighted Stage
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