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QUOTE (hunter @ Jul 16 2012, 09:04 AM)

I hadn't seen this posted here but Lot's of good tips I think. http://therecordingrevolution.com/5minutes/

It would be amazing to have individual tracks for all your favorite records, but then people would be putting out "their mix" instead of the mix the band intended you to hear, the final mix. This would get messy and doesn't really work in the music world. Not saying it wouldn't be fun to mess around with all the tracks, but I don't think any musician on the planet wants hundreds of lame mixes of their songs out there. This is why the final mix is just 2 tracks, L R.

A few of you saw my post, 4 pages back, and thanks.

The guitars are to f*cking loud, thick and effected on this record. They cover up everything, and this, and only this, is why the drums and vocals don't sound as up front as they should. Period.

Nothing can sound good with all that noise going on. Turning up the drum tracks only makes the drums sound worse. Trust me, those DW's sound great, but you can't hear them through all the guitar noise.

Alex likes 30 tracks of guitars, and most of them seem to make it onto the final mix. If Alex says, "I want all those tracks", they make it onto the mix. Alex mixed those live albums that sound like complete crap, remember. Granted, those were just single track guitars, but he can't mix and doesn't seem to understand, less is more.

 

This album isn't brick walled, mixed poorly, or anything like that. There's just too much going on, and it's mostly guitars. I love this album, love it! But you cannot turn it up without it sounding harsh. Can't blame that entirely on the engineer or producer. The band has the final say, and I guarantee it didn't get printed unless they ( Alex) was happy with it. f***ing guitar players...more me!

 

Just accept the record for what it is...a great record. Listen and enjoy the songs, just don't turn it up too loud. A great record could be recorded on a cell phone and still be great.

Has it ever occurred to anyone that it might not be the fault of the producer or engineer for whatever you feel is wrong with this record?

Could it be the band? Nah, no way. What could possibly be wrong with layering 30 guitar tracks per song, with bass, drums, synths, effects and vocals? That's gotta sound great, all those guitar tracks competing for space with all the other single tracked instruments...right? No, not right.

 

The "producer" obviously has a major input on the direction, sound and structure of the songs, but he doesn't have the final say. Ultimately the band determines how much content each song gets, i.e; number of tracks.

The "engineer" only records and (sometimes) mixes what the band plays. If Alex wants 30 guitar tracks, the engineer records them, period. They may not use all those tracks, but that's up to the producer, then the band.

 

I guess what I'm saying is, this record is thick with tracks. There is a shit load of sound competing for space. When you have all those layers, things get noisy. I feel this record has so much guitar on it, it covers up everything. This is not necessarily the fault of the producer or engineer. If the band wants all those layers, they get it.

Been a huge fan for years. She's a great artist and her band is bad ass!

You see her a lot with a guitar lately, but she's really a Hammond Organ player.

QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 28 2012, 10:59 AM)

QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Jun 28 2012, 06:49 AM) QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 27 2012, 03:40 PM) QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Jun 26 2012, 07:54 AM) I always laugh at guys with distortion boxes in their pedal boards playing through a Marshall. You mean like Randy Rhoads?   He had his MXR's hard wired into his Marshalls. I loved Randy's playing, and will leave it at that.   My point with the Marshall comment was, a Marshall is generally considered the amp of choice for its distortion value. It does this just fine with nothing but head + cab. So why do you need to add more distortion in the form of a pedal? I feel all this accomplishes is making the guitar sound less like a guitar, and is unfortunately the mistake so many guitarists make. Hence my other comment, "if you need more distortion by adding a pedal, you're using the wrong amp". IMO. I agree, but can't a guy mess with you? Yes...you can, but no one else.

QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 27 2012, 03:40 PM)

QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Jun 26 2012, 07:54 AM) I always laugh at guys with distortion boxes in their pedal boards playing through a Marshall. You mean like Randy Rhoads?   He had his MXR's hard wired into his Marshalls. I loved Randy's playing, and will leave it at that.   My point with the Marshall comment was, a Marshall is generally considered the amp of choice for its distortion value. It does this just fine with nothing but head + cab. So why do you need to add more distortion in the form of a pedal? I feel all this accomplishes is making the guitar sound less like a guitar, and is unfortunately the mistake so many guitarists make. Hence my other comment, "if you need more distortion by adding a pedal, you're using the wrong amp". IMO.

Nice work! I enjoyed the whole read.

Come on...seriously!? Why on earth would you start a thread like this?

It's just lame and uncalled for. Just an observation, but from what I've seen of your posts on this forum so far, they are mostly like this. Get real and be constructive with your posts.

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If it says Flash Player update, do it.

There's a thread on this already.

http://www.therushforum.com/index.php?showtopic=75340

 

This threads topic is misleading. Just sayin'.

Gonna move this thread. We have an original music forum here.

 

Btw, I like BUG.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone who uses pedals. Guess I have a different opinion on the way a distorted guitar should sound.

QUOTE (rushfanNlv @ Jun 25 2012, 12:34 PM)

Amp distortion guy myself but I do love to punch the front end of the amp with a good overdrive - even if it's just for flavor and not a volume or gain boost. I've used the Fulltone FDII - excellent overdrive. I would definitely get another one of these pedals if I were to be playing guitar in a band. My other favorite is the Boss PQ-4 Parametric EQ. Not a traditional OD for sure but the level control acts like an OD and pushes the front of the amp into overdrive. The Parametric EQ allows you to really dial in a specific tone. Kind of like a Tube Screamer but you have access to more frequencies than just the treble. Fun pedal.

Why do any of you think that the string section will up-stage the band? They will Not be in front of, or block the view of the band. Come on, get real and use some common sense. Sorry, I just don't understand why anyone would think the strings would be up stage of the band.

 

Also don't understand the complaints about bringing the strings on tour. They're on the record and part of the songs.

QUOTE (Just an Escape Artist @ Jun 25 2012, 03:53 PM)

I just don't see Rush bringing a string orchestra of any kind. They will use programing and keys like they always do. If I am wrong I will be as surpised as the rest of you. I just see anyone other than Rush palying at a Rush show.

On top of the giant clock that will be the main set piece for this tour.

QUOTE (FOH Lights @ Jun 25 2012, 11:00 AM)

You guys should relax. Rush knows what their fans like (and don't like) and this show will be spectacular. Don't kill your pre-concert buzz over a non-issue.

I've probably listened to the full record at least 30 times now, and just can't get enough. With every listen it still gets better and I absolutely love it. Haven't been skipping any songs, they are all golden in my mind and the order is perfect.

My band had an out of town gig over the weekend and I put in the CD when we departed and it never left the player the entire trip. My bass player summed it up pretty well and declared the album "Riff-Topia", which we all agreed.

 

I love this album and couldn't be more pleased with it. There are hints of some many previous years within the songs. Can't wait to hear it live!

Well I hoped this thread would be put to rest, but it lives on and has become unconstructive.

This is an public forum of course, but if everyone can't respect the "opinions" of others without bashing them, then it becomes counter productive with no resolution.

 

People are entitled to their opinions and should be able to voice them freely, without being slammed. They are f*cking opinions, not facts. Opinions can be proven wrong with Facts, not name calling. If this bothers everyone so much, then spend your time doing research to prove them wrong. That's being Constructive.

 

Thread CLOSED!

I was a big DT and Portnoy fan years ago and when they replaced him I checked out Mangini, and thought he was amazing. Much more "musical" of a drummer for sure, but probably doesn't have all the chops Portnoy has. Being able to play all that stuff is fine and all, but it should be musical, and Portnoy isn't very musical, Mangini is.

Now Gavin Harrison is a guy with serious chops, and is a very musical drummer. Love his style.

 

Notes are just notes, and lots of guys can play notes. Very few actually play musically.

Now it's officially listed on the Billboard Top 200 Chart. Nice!

http://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-...s/billboard-200

Hey guys, just listened to all the parts and I was thoroughly entertained and impressed! Interesting topics, good insight and great dialog. Nice work all around. I'll be tuning in again. Thanks!

QUOTE (deslock @ Jun 20 2012, 02:30 PM)

However, I'm surprised there isn't a little fill at ~1:03 as that spot seems perfect for one. But the moment of restraint adds to the song's variety.