Prog snob

Are you sure you're interviewing PFM? I dont see a Toronto tour date for them.

But Goblin is playing on 10/26.

What is it with Rush fans and disliking Kansas? I mean, it's one thing if they were kind of rivals in their heyday, but they never were.

 

I would guess that the violin puts some people off. It takes Kansas' music to a different place than some prog rock fans are willing to go, despite the idea that one of the things that makes prog "proggy" is the inclusion of non-traditional rock instruments. I imagine some people would have a problem with Jethro Tull's flute for the same reason.

 

Disagree. Progsters who don't appreciate Kansas view it as one step above Lynyrd Skynyrd and Marshall Tucker. Has nothing to do with the violin.

 

Sure it can. With those people, perhaps, they hear the violin and they think "country fiddle" or "southern music" or "John Mellencamp."

Crimson, PFM, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Ponty all have violin and all are adored by prog fans. But Kansas is too boogie for many. I know some who consider Kansas, and Rush for that matter, redneck rock.

What is it with Rush fans and disliking Kansas? I mean, it's one thing if they were kind of rivals in their heyday, but they never were.

 

I would guess that the violin puts some people off. It takes Kansas' music to a different place than some prog rock fans are willing to go, despite the idea that one of the things that makes prog "proggy" is the inclusion of non-traditional rock instruments. I imagine some people would have a problem with Jethro Tull's flute for the same reason.

Disagree. Progsters who don't appreciate Kansas view it as one step above Lynyrd Skynyrd and Marshall Tucker. Has nothing to do with the violin.

 

 

You missed my point entirely. I was saying these two are it.

No, I should I have phrased the question better. But those bands were popular before Oasis. I was expecting artists that began in the last 10 years or so.

People don't actually think Green Day are Punk.....do they?

Saw this on another site, thought it was appropo here.

"Re: Scale most common in punk rock?

Those bands played mostly in straight major keys. It is a very large part of why they sound like the ****in' Archies."

 

Both bands are easy to hate but the fact is they offered an entire generation a band to believe in on a large scale. You can't take away the empowerment felt by millions of fans who were listening to this type of music for the first time.

Sure, but those guys are almost ready for the senior citizen discount at the KFC. Who are recent that have a shot at such a noble honor. Of course I mean rock and/or musicians.

 

Safe to say you don't like Kendrick Lamar or Kanye West or Lady Gaga?

There have always been pop stars...always will. Bigger picture, rock and musicians in general aren't as large of the pie as they were or should be.

I don't think influence necessarily means how a band or artist sounds. It has to do more with influencing how you do things. The Beatles were a huge influence on an incredible range of artists. The Monkees to Yes. The Bee Gees to Radiohead. A band like Television influenced R.E.M. and U2 and Sonic Youth. All these bands are unique. It's easy to sound like another band. It's more about inspiration.

 

I don't agree. Your approach to this is too academic.

 

I think the important thing above all else is how someone responds emotionally to a song/album/artist. If millions do then I think that means as much if not more than merely starting something new.

 

Anyone can dislike something and call it generic or bland, but if millions are adoring and valuing the work of an artist and their music has helped make someone feel richer in life or understood, I think that should be taken into account.

 

Sounding like someone else is fine of your music has heart and soul. And it depends on each listener to decide for themselves if what they are listening too is worth it.

It will be interesting and sad to see who the hall is electing in 25 years based on current music trends

Bill Bruford

Neal Peart

Christian Vander

Pierre Moerlein

Furio Chirico

Robert Fripp, Brian Eno and Jeff Lynne all deserve recognition. If their respective bands don't get in they should as individuals. Hell, for producing alone.

 

Where's Roxy Music in all this? New Wave would not have happened without them.

Yep, Eno should have been in long ago

Cardiacs for the last 3 years.

Opeth from 2001 to 2007.

http://www.blabbermo...-puppets-album/

 

You guys have probably all seen this, but basically, Geddy Lee almost was the one to produce Metallica's third album, Master Of Puppets in 1986 while the band was on tour promoting Power Windows....Sadly, 1986 was the same year where tragically, Cliff Burton lost his life in the bus crash...This leads me to ask a very interesting question...What if Metallica was never introduced to Jason Newsted and instead, decided to recruit none other than Geddy Lee to take Cliff's place?

 

For starters, they probably would have not been satisfied with the poppy and twangy sound of the Wal bass that he was playing at that time and probably would have made him play the Rickenbacker or the Jazz bass. I honestly would not be able to imagine One being played with a bass tone that was similar to the Wal.

 

Geddy never would have joined but do you know who tried out for METALLICA after Burton passed away???

 

 

LES CLAYPOOL!

 

He was too eclectic for them.

 

Obviously.

Didn't Claypool used to play an upright, electric bass? Or was I just in such an...ahem...weird state of mind when I saw them open for Rush on the Presto tour that I imagined it?

YES!

Aww, its only showing in 1 half D.

Woooooooo

On behalf of everyone at TRF, I want to apologize to the OP for hijacking this thread.

But those basses aren't Rickies, so meh!

Are Go

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad190/TDear_1984/Geddy%20Thunderbirds_zpswy5ghlcc.jpg

Brilliant!

Had a discussion about politics and economics last night with my 12 year-old son.

 

What made me happy was that he brought it up!

 

:)

Is he supply side or demand side?

Looks like Carolina is in for another long season, losing to Kentucky for the 3rd straight year. We have a young team, which did it's best on defense, but the offense couldn't muster any yards. 2 TDs were called back for penalties, one obvious, one was a judgement call.

The bad news is that A&M comes into town next week.

Ummm, Carolina beat Pitt!